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Wed Oct 19 2022 10:50 pm EST

Funny that Diguiseppe and hunt are on waivers the same day. Hunt basically replaced Diguiseppe! Maybe Quinny will claim him.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:58 pm EST

td: Hunt is a guy you keep around for camp. He fils in in pre season games. He is energetic and puts 100% effort in every time he is not he ice, so even in practice he will force guys to battle a little bit harder. And he knows what the coach wants since he was around last year...sending him down early makes zero sense, he isnt a kid that needs one on one coaching and what good does it do to have him sit around for a week waiting for the Hartford camp to start? He is also a early call up if there are injuries, so why not have him around the team to play a bit in camp? Gauthier, Rydahl and Hunt were all around until late in camp. So the fact that two of them had better camps is sort of irrelevant.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:41 pm EST

TD- agreed that Gallant wanted to keep him around, but Gauthier has higher cap hit and can only really play RW, Hint can play either side and even center in a pinch. Rydahl went down because he can AND because he had a less than stellar last game. He’ll be back.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:40 pm EST

TD: RFC league, Crosby's Daycare? is the GM alive?

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:30 pm EST

Rhet0ric - LOL, well we don't need to stop, do we?! Stromer: MAN! I can't hit a goddamn empty net today. Hunt: Hold my beer...

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 6:49 pm EST

Colorado/Wildcard - Yeah, I agree...but again, I don't think he should'a been one of the last cuts...GAUTHIER and RYDAHL both had better camps...the fact that he didn't get dumped really in the first deep cut shows how much GALLANT really tried to keep him around...but KRAVT and CARPENTER weren't getting cut...and VESEY played his way on the team. The end result is the same, I just think it should've happened quicker and that a player who played better should've gotten the shot HUNT did...but again...good soldier. Part of the team. I guess he earned that shot last year.

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 6:46 pm EST

E - haha fair enough...Quinn on shrooms...Doooood...why won't these guys skate north south...why do they pass the puck...why isn't Colin Blackwell here...Blackwell...Black...Well...Well Black. Puck is black but they pass it. Passing. East to west man, NO! THE WEST IS NOT BEST. GO SOUTH SOUTH!!! SOUUUUUUUTH!!! Deep man. DEEEEEEEEP.

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 6:31 pm EST

Hunt would have been sent down originally, but Blais got hurt. Then after that Kravt got hurt. Then Carpenter. It was only a matter of time.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 19 2022 6:06 pm EST

TD... Fair assessment of Hunt. I still like making fun of him, but still a fair assessment :)

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 19 2022 4:33 pm EST

They can call up the old goat if they need help. The spotlight is on the new goat.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 19 2022 3:29 pm EST

And IMO boo-flippin'-hoo if Hunt is claimed. Plenty of players of ilk floating around if need be.

rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 3:27 pm EST

mf: I don't see GG making such proclamations. I also don't see any value in having Krapsnot on the 4th line.

rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 2:36 pm EST

TD: just so you know. The Gold Coast is about 400 miles to the south. No one wears a bikini because it’s too cold in NorCal. And the reason the team is named the sharks is the waters there are teeming with 100’s of white sharks. So if Quinn wanted to go hiking in the redwoods, take shrooms and contemplate the higher order of hockey philosophy, get paid a visit by bears who like your garbage. Have a fan base where the whole lower bowl of tech bros that makes more than the entire team’s salaries. And of course Metallica plays the national anthem a few times a year? SJ is your destination. Wanna be a cliché Californian? Head south. Way south. Hit Mexico? Went too far…

E

Wed Oct 19 2022 2:30 pm EST

td: Honestly, I think if Blais hadn't been injured, Hunt would have been sent down that last weekend before the regular season opened.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 2:11 pm EST

Welp, HUNT being sent down was something that should've occurred weeks ago. And TBH, he should've been among the first cuts. I have little doubt he passes through waivers...and for that iota of doubt that he doesn't? I offer this requiem: Dryden HUNT is a good soldier. Hell, a GREAT soldier. His tenacity is both welcome and infectious. He's got a motor that doesn't stop. But his offensive ability at the NHL level is negligible. On a bubble team, he's a good 13th forward. On a contender? He's not.

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 2:10 pm EST

Sedlak is now back with Torts, who he played for in Columbus.

JFC31

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:52 pm EST

And I the category of take a flyer, it became literal …Claimed:Lukas Sedlak #FueledByPhilly from #GoAvsGo

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:49 pm EST

@vzmercogliano·8mThe #NYR will keep their ???? that no one claims Hunt. They really like him as a depth forward and would love to stash him in Hartford in case of an injury to any of their forwards. But ultimately, waivers was a risk they had to take. Cap space accrual is (rightly) the priority.4857Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·14mI wrote in today's mailbag that Hunt could be heading to waivers any day now - and here we are.This drops the #NYR roster down to 22 & leaves them with about $950K in cap space. If they maintain that, they could get to $4M or so by the trade deadline through the accrual process

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:42 pm EST

JFC - True..but CARPENTER has been fine and RYDAHL still seems to be adjsuting..I think they will give that a little time...MF - Yep, nothing wrong with 4th line for Krappy but even that he hasn't earned yet

Hospo

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:34 pm EST

If the Rangers really want to maximize their cap savings, they should bring up Rydahl & put Carpenter on waivers, too! Then, they can “send” Rydahl to Hartford every off day, save that $$ & Rydahl still gets paid the same salary.

JFC31

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:32 pm EST

Gentlemen jog your memories, I recall Kravtsov's first stint with the big club and there was footage of Reeves and Kravtsov, (found it!) Nothing wrong with 4th line minutes if it gets him in the game. Kravtsov is no softee. https://www.bardown.com/ryan-reaves-was-giving-vitali-kravtsov-fighting-lessons-today-1.1698205 ----- https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1441781419324416004

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:27 pm EST

Drury is the boss , he makes the final decisions. He put hunt on waivers. Guess he’s gambling on whether he will be claimed. It was no big secret that he needed to get down to 22 asap. I don’t think he was gallant’s first choice . And he will probably never say. Now watch gallant have a short leash on crabby krappy if he doesn’t play good. He will be the new goat.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:12 pm EST

Can we now put to bed the idea that GG is somehow blind to Hunts real top end? He was used because there was no one else...now that there are others he is being set aside and exposed to waivers. Likely he passes through, and for the next 30 days can be recalled and sent down without them, so it gives the Rangers some more flexibility in that span if it happens.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:09 pm EST

@FriedgeHNIC·5mHunt (NYR) and DiGiuseppe (VAN) on waivers

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:04 pm EST

While the only move is for the Rangers to keep KRAPSHOT on the roster, he sure doesn't deserve and hasn't earned a position in the Rangers TOP 12 forwards and should only be inserted for injury or poor performance by others..But, you know what, that will happen and he will get his chance somewhere in the lineup..and it will all be up to him...Hell, why not on a 4th line with Reaves and Carpenter and he can see what true sacrifice and hard work is and maybe learn a little..all the while having his scarecrow frame protected as much as possible..

Hospo

Wed Oct 19 2022 1:03 pm EST

Regular IR doesnt give any cap relief. And if placed on IR he is there for 10 days, and thats a bit long for a well stitched cut. Its probably healing really fast as well since it was a sharp thing that cut him, and it likely wasnt jagged, so it will heal fast with proper treatment.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:59 pm EST

WC: What about short term injured reserve for a guy like Carpenter? Cuts like this need time to heal internally, do we get any cap relief if a player goes on short-term IR and how long must he stay there? thanks

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:55 pm EST

mf: A player can be assigned to the AHL and never actually leave the NHL city before being recalled. Carpenter does require waivers. And since he was a full participant in practice I think he has been cleared already, and yeah, he had a nasty cut...but clearly the docs think he is good to go.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:47 pm EST

RF: Is this plausible: GG tells Kravtsov he will play the 1st period on the 4th line RW just to get his game legs and then beginning 2nd period Kravtsov will be bumped up the 3rd line RW. Knowing this ahead of time may do the trick...

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:45 pm EST

Thanks for the feedback on streams guys. Will try tomorrow night!

shonuff

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:42 pm EST

Are there time requirements when sending a player to the AHL affiliate? Specifically, does the player need to stay with the AHL club for a minimum amount of days or games before said player can be called back up? Does Carpenter need to clear waivers, didn't he just receive a nasty cut which could use another week to heal? t/y

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:34 pm EST

COMark: Either that or Blais-Chytil-Krav and then Goodrow-Carpenter-Reaves, or even Vesey-Goodrow-Reaves or Vesey-Carpenter-Goodrow all depending on opponent. The big thing I was worried about with Chytil was his face-offs...but he has gotten much better with those. Krav and Blais being healthy gives some options for GG, the idea of putting Goodrow on the 4th line makes the 4th line better defensively, and Goodrow is no slouch when he gets a chance around the net. Blais there makes it hyper physical but not quite as skilled on either side of the puck. I think Chytil has improved enough that that line is OK with Blais and Krav...thats some good see and skill there, on paper at least it would be a well balanced line, and it would give the Rangers a one-two punch of big hitters on the bottom 6. Now, this is all looking at things on paper, so who knows how it would really work out, but I think its an option that should be looked at. If it works, thats 4 really good solid lines with injury fill in capable forwards waiting for a chance. That set of 4th line groups also allows the ability to rest guys who are a bit older who will be leaned on more late in the season and the post season.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:25 pm EST

I'd certainly consider giving Krapsnot a spin on line 3 with Chytil and probably Blais with Goodrow then centering line 4. My concerns to date is that Krapsnot looks lost and to me, seems to need a few weeks in Hartford, which we know won't happen. If when he gets back into the lineup he continues to look overwhelmed the Rangers indeed have a problem on their hands that will only get magnified if Krapsnot bulks at spending lots of time in the pressbox.

rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:24 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hLine rushes now. First combos look like this:Kreider - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Trocheck - LafBlais - Chytil - Goodrow Vesey - Carpenter - ReavesGuessing that’s what we’ll see tomorrow. #NYR2232409Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hKreider and Trouba are back for today’s #NYR practice, giving them a full 23 for the first time this season. Top 6 looks the same, with four forwards skating on each of the bottom 6 lines.Blais - Chytil - Goodrow - KravtsovHunt - Vesey - Carpenter - Reaves

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:07 pm EST

Kravtsov will get a chance to play. I've been down on him for a while because of his behavior last year, but I am willing to give him a shot. The thing is that the first few days of camp he was doing great. He only played a couple of games with Bread and Jam (Still pushing for it) but Laffy looks pretty ensconced on that line. But he might be able to really add some offense to the third line. Goodrow-Chytil-Kravtsov has offensive potential. Put Blais with Reaves or Vesey and Carpenter and you have a pretty physical 4th line. I ahree- Send Hunt down for the cap space. If Kravt starts producing you just rotate Vesey in for spot duty.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 19 2022 12:02 pm EST

MF- Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that clip in a while. But watching Rick Moranis doing math in his head just made my morning!

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:56 am EST

On the roster: IMO, Hunt should be sent down so we have some cap space available at the trade deadline. We also don’t want to play Reeves all 82 games (or even close to it), we need him to be as fresh/strong as possible for the postseason. Vesey also isn’t the end all/be all to things. Plenty of places/spaces to get guys playing time before you decide on their fate.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:55 am EST

mf: Loved those skits. So funny. So sarcastically Canadian.

rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:51 am EST

The only reason Drury would risk putting Krapsnot on waivers is if he's getting nothing more than a bag of pucks in trade discussions and even then I highly doubt it because while it's doubtful Krapsnot would clear, given his history there's zero reason to expect to agree to report. That would subsequently reduce the number of used bags in the bag of them being offered. All that said, a conundrum albeit it minor at this point for Drury which could enflame as the days go on.

rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:51 am EST

Bob - hahaha, yup, I get friggin' pangs in my major internal organs thinking of a Devils team with HUGHES, HISCHIER, Luke HUGHES, NEMEC, HOLTZ, and man...the list just goes on and on. There is so much talent on that shithole team, they ABSOLUTELY need to keep RUFF back there. My wild fantasy is that his firing coincides with QUINN'S firing...TROTZ goes to San Jose and we get the Mighty Quinn back in the tri-state to resurrect Colin BLACKWELL on second line....

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:29 am EST

Mollie-Wanna-Buy-A-Banner-Ad-On-This-Wall? https://nypost.com/2022/10/19/rangers-roster-squeeze-leaves-vitali-kravtsovs-fate-in-doubt/

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:11 am EST

RF: "oh, that's your situation in the Great White North?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRlcjz3acU

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:06 am EST

TD—Exactly. This is the reason why I keep promoting Lindy Ruff on Twitter. Because I I do not want to see Trotz in NJ. Hopefully, that is why they brought in Andrew Brunette. NJ is perfectly set up to be successful with the Trotz system. They are loaded with offensive talent and if that talent is harnessed into a proper system they will be dangerous.

Bob

Wed Oct 19 2022 11:01 am EST

Gold Coast? Bikini Watching? That might be half the problem.

E

Wed Oct 19 2022 10:49 am EST

I'm not a huge TROTZ fan and did A LOT of gafawing when he was consecrated as the future, cup-winning coach of the New York Islanders...I am still amazed that a guy who GENUINELY knows systems and deployed them VERY well...FOR YEARS...with both the Preds and the previously hapless Capitals is out of a job today and both Lindy RUFF and Dave QUINN are employed...Wait...hang on guys...I'm getting a call in from future me...let me take this real quick...'hi future me...you say what? Who? Oh, he gets fired...yeah, I saw that...and the Devils hire who? WHAT?!? And they go on to win WHAT?!?? FUCKING FUCK!!!'...(crashing noises, cat goes sailing across the room)...

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 9:34 am EST

Failing Upward - The Dave Quinn Story. Chapter 6: Shark Hunting. I was pulling down my last swallow of 'Gansett at my Westerly home, getting ready to hit the beach for some bikini watch...er...surf casting when Grier called. 'Quinny,' he says, 'I got a job for you out here on the Gold Coast. We're kind of turning over a new leaf with a youth movement and impressionable players that are real good prospects to start you out with...' but I stopped listening. Young players? PHPHHH. Who needs 'em. But turning over a new leaf? Did he say those magic words? Yes! REBUILD! Three more years of basking in the sun, collecting that fat paycheck and giving AHLers a chance at cracking the top six. And just like that, I was off to California. Sure, losing five games isn't the best way to keep a job. Grier calls me and says 'what in the F is going on there?' And I tell him, look, bud. It's a rebuild. You have to give me at least three years before you can expect results. Really I need five. Maybe six. And a new beach house. And maybe a semi filled with Gansett 30-racks.

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 9:25 am EST

Tortorella’s lasting mark on the NYR culture thru that era is he made them a grizzled group. He made them tough and willing to do whatever it took. I didn’t like a lot about his scheming. I thought much of the zone turtling and just diving in front of pucks was ineffective with the way the game was going. And his constant shuffling of lines all game long was annoying. But AV inherited a team ready to win. That stated, in Vancouver, Columbus he had far less success in turning around a franchise. I saw Vancouver vs. SJ a couple of years ago and I saw Vancouver playing the same style and for the entire game they couldn’t get the puck on stick. I suspect that Tortorella doesn’t necessarily know how to get the kind of buy in that he used to be able to. I don’t think you can just bring a stick to every practice and just yell from the bench all day long.

E

Wed Oct 19 2022 9:20 am EST

shonuff - onhockey.tv is another. But you kinda have to know how to navigate their streams and better have a good pop-up blocker. For NHL games though, there are always at least one, usually two reliable streams without the trash.

tdchi

Wed Oct 19 2022 8:48 am EST

SHONUFF - What RF4L said, or try https://sportshub.stream/nhl-streamz/

Hospo

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:26 am EST

mf. I think my family us becoming numb to the Leafs endless drama…

Rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 7:26 am EST

Shonuff: Try https://nhl66.ir/simulator

Rf4L

Wed Oct 19 2022 6:20 am EST

Any backdoor stream experts out there?? I lost MSG in central jersey lasy year but with espn+ (wife has HULU bundle). I was able to watch the games and even choose which feed I wanted. Now this year they are blacked out even on that in my area. Sickening. Verizon cable not available in my area which leaves me getting FUBO an extra 70 a month. Am I missing something easy??? If it's on direct tv I would never get that dish again.

shonuff

Wed Oct 19 2022 5:33 am EST

Somewhere in the Great White North of Toronto, there's a Ranger Fan treading really gingerly and looking over his shoulder: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl-maple-leafs-chaotic-controversial-loss-to-coyotes-leaves-fans-in-despair-122107374.html

mf

Wed Oct 19 2022 5:18 am EST

If the coaches use jones and hijack in a decent rotation, it will benefit the Nyr and both players. Using all their black aces in the bottom 6 is a positive way to keep and make a team strong. But I assume at some point drury will have to cut the roster to 22 to save cap space in case they encounter rainy days .

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:38 pm EST

CNPARDA - Should be some fun games with the Flyers with that scum MacKewen, Braun and Deslauriers who is probably neck and neck with Reaves for the toughest guy in the NHL..And then they have Pea Brain DeAngelo also! But with Reaves, Blais, Goodrow, Troubs. Lindgren even Carpenter..Rangers won't take the backseat to anybody in the physicality department......even if JONES s playing! :)

Hospo

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:08 pm EST

Even Jones scouting report says he hi a smooth skater who is not super fast. I expect him to hopefully do well an get traded. When the playoffs are happening so does tight board work and without really good speed you will get crushed

vcp1994

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:05 pm EST

Tdchi and rf4l..another 2 members joining my staff when I buy the rangers.

vcp1994

Tue Oct 18 2022 9:07 pm EST

Cnp. It’s early. Give it time and their lack of skill will catch up on them.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 18 2022 8:59 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/sammy-blais-delayed-rangers-return-was-out-of-extra-caution/

mf

Tue Oct 18 2022 8:39 pm EST

Torts has Philly buying into his philosophy it appears. A much heavier lineup that plays hard, and goes to the net. I don’t see the talent as being on par as the Rangers but no doubt a tough team to play against.

Cnparda

Tue Oct 18 2022 8:15 pm EST

Not for a second do I believe Jones is 5’10” and 180 lbs…

Rf4L

Tue Oct 18 2022 8:04 pm EST

I pointed this out a while ago, so I won't go back into the methodology, but with exception to the Avalanche...and even they're not exactly a prime exception, there just aren't many...scratch that...ANY cup winners that carry more than one diminutive defenseman. Colorado was **KINDA** the exception, because they have MAKAR and GIRARD, which are in many ways a great equivalent of FOX and JONES...but even there, GIRARD went down and the Avalanche leaned on Jack JOHNSON down the stretch...but outside of MAKAR, their other guys were either average or above in size. MANSON and both Jack and ERIK JOHNSON are big dudes. BYRAM and TOEWS are average...and that's the thing: Once the refs swallow their whistles, the game really caters to big, strong defensemen. Doesn't matter if their stumps or fireplugs. Just as long as they can hit and obstruct...that's problem numero uno with JONES...the lesser is that he is so much like FOX and he just will never get PP time, which is where he would be most valuable...I don't think it's an awful idea to have him for the season and in the instance where the most awful came to pass...I won't even mention it here...JONES may do a yeoman's work as a fill in...but ultimately, I think they'll need to get someone who is large and in charge to fill that spot if they're going to go deep.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 7:39 pm EST

Bob Jones is not really fast he was a smooth skater with decent to good speed he isn't super fast like zubov or rejo reuts.

vcp1994

Tue Oct 18 2022 7:36 pm EST

Andei. Yes I prefer bigger players unless the team aka Colorado which is the fastest in the league. The rangers are not the fastest in the league and if not for weak goaltending don't make it to the final 4. Fox is smart not fast but most of the defense have size and can skate. Leetch was also 5'11 and maybe 190 but he was amazing skater back when you all know when. Same rule applies if you are small you better compensate.

vcp1994

Tue Oct 18 2022 7:18 pm EST

Find it funny how in 2022 folks still think that somehow offensive d-man need to be big. Cale Makar is considered by many is the top 5 player in NHL is, what for it, 5.11/180lb. Quinn Hughes is 5.10/180LB, Fox is 5.11/180. Jones is 5.10/180LB. There are probably around 15 or so really good offensive d-man in the league. When Jones starts hitting his prime years, he might end being that top 15 player. His potential is that good. Problem is that Rangers already have Fox. Is there a room for both? I don't see it, but it does not mean that Jones somehow has to be traded. Future will tell, but I'm also convinced that Rangers are very high on him. Hospo, kinda agree with you that Schneider might be better off with the veteran d-man as a partner. Problem is that Rangers have no cap room to bring one in.

andrei

Tue Oct 18 2022 6:39 pm EST

If it came down to Vesey and Hunt, I'd lean tooward Vesey.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 18 2022 6:00 pm EST

Jones is very fast…he is a terrific skater. He has the hands as well. There is no reason that he cannot play defense as effectively as Adam Fox. He has already improved significantly. He is a rookie and a kid. I think he can play the 3rd pair in NY and some on the second PP, and eventually bring something valuable back in a trade once he establishes himself.

Bob

Tue Oct 18 2022 5:48 pm EST

Coloradomark..you will be on my board when I buy the rangers. Jones is too small for the long haul..one small guy is enough unless they are rocket fast which he isn't.

vcp1994

Tue Oct 18 2022 5:20 pm EST

CM - I guess I'm quibbling with my complaints but I look at this Ranger team with the eye of knowing they are good and what it will take to win the Cup....I see JONES the same as you although I don't think the Rangers are in any position to trade defensive assets right now, maybe in a year or two.after they see what happens with Schneider, Jonesm Hajak and RObertson..I think BOTH SCHNEIDER and JONES would benefit from playing with a Vet partner like SCHNEIDER did last year..Both have promise but going to be a bumpy ride if they are playing togather....If not smooth in time, the Ranges will do another BRAUN type deal..

Hospo

Tue Oct 18 2022 4:01 pm EST

HOSPO- I think long term, ROBERTSON is the best option to pair with Schneider, but that is a year off at the earliest. But he has the size and the skating. Just hope he continues to develop in Hartford. I think HAJEK has played pretty well. Jones is a great guy to have if Fox is hurt, but I am not confident he is a long term option for the Rangers top 6. While I'm impressed with his positioning a lot more than I thought I would be, he just seems destined to be worn down in a tough playoff series. I think someone mentioned he might be a good trade chip. And while I think our defensive depth would be lessened even more if we traded him (especially if for a vet D rental) it might be what we need for the playoffs. But I'm pretty happy with the start overall, better than last year's first handful of games (which had a lot to do with poor goaltending).

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 18 2022 3:25 pm EST

Really liking the four lines as they are in practice today..Carpenter will be the 4th C until he loses it..let the other 4 fight for the 2 4th line W spots and maybe keep Reaves fresh also....Then again, the forwards aren't a problem right now, at least offensively....The TEAM has played poor defense the last three games..needs to be worked on..GOODROW in the TOP 9 will help the forwards, who need to be more committed...I know it's ahrd when your eyes are lighting up with all the goals......Still have a problem with the two kids as the 3rd pair...neither one is the best partner for each other...HAJEK should get more chances...

Hospo

Tue Oct 18 2022 3:04 pm EST

newf: He brings so little to the table AFAIC. No offense (except in pre-season) and like so many other not-small players, rarely hits. I guess for a 13th forward, he's acceptable because he likely won't complain about that role but a whole bunch of ho-hum to me.

rf4L

Tue Oct 18 2022 2:38 pm EST

rf4L....Vesey really isn't that good ,is he. I didn't like him the first time round. let's hope Krapshot starts doing something intead of shitting the bed.

Newfie_Ranger

Tue Oct 18 2022 2:36 pm EST

ratelle1967....i loved old Gump too but the Habs would've won 4 straight Cups back then with me in net...LOL. They were so strong they were unloading very good players right left and centre.Quick look at the actual trade...we gave up Dave Balon (who we got back later to star with us) Leon Rochefort,Len Ronson and Gumper.......we got back Phil Goyette, Donnie Marshall and Jacques Plante. Probably didn't mean a lot to Hab fans bu I liked it :)

Newfie_Ranger

Tue Oct 18 2022 2:27 pm EST

No surprise to see Jimmy's Feces sliding down the depth chart. He really isn't very good.

rf4L

Tue Oct 18 2022 2:24 pm EST

E - Of course he is! Kinda like how he ran the US Olympic Team into the ground when they should've at least qualified for the medal round...only to be given the reins of the World Championship team...which he ran into the ground...only to get the San Jose job...Three years from now, the Sharks will still be holding in mediocrity, he'll be playing BEDARD on third line with a couple stumps. Probably find a defenseman to play on his wing....failing upward...but seriously though...You can't tell me a kid like Thomas BORDELEAU should be in the minors. Maybe EKLUND, but I find that even a stretch. He's the same ol' Quinn. Just a charlatan pulling at random strings.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 2:01 pm EST

Quinn has a really tough job in SJ. An owner who doesn’t tolerate losing like this because they never have. And they have some terrible contracts to deal with. And they aren’t getting a return on the ice. And the quality of the kids aren’t exactly inspiring yet. He’s gonna do some losing this season so I think barring a complete inability to run a pro club he’s gonna get some slack.

E

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:56 pm EST

Newfie. Not sure many Montreal fans would agree that the Rangers got a steal with Phil Goyette trade from the Habs. The Habs won 4 straight Cups with the Gumper in the net. Loved the Gumper, here are some quotesWorsley was known for his wry sense of humour and various eccentricities. Early in his career with the Rangers, regularly facing 40–50 shots a night, he was asked: "Which team gives you the most trouble?" His reply – "The New York Rangers." Accused by Rangers' coach Phil Watson of having a beer belly, he replied, "Just goes to show you what he knows. I only drink Johnnie Walker Red."

ratelle1967

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:55 pm EST

practice lines:Kravtsov - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Trocheck - LafBlais - Chytil - GoodrowVesey - Hunt - Carpenter - Reaves41490Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hKravtsov is skating in Kreider’s spot for practice, which may be a hint that he’s not going to play Thursday. But he’s in a full contact jersey, which represents progress.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:54 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hTrouba and Kreider won’t skate today, per #NYR. Maintenance for both.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:53 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·1hGallant said that Kravtsov and Carpenter have both been cleared to play, so he’s going to have to make some lineup decisions for Thursday. But since he likes how #NYR has been playing, he said not to expect many changes. Definitely sounds like he wants to keep Laf at 2RW.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:51 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·57mReading the ???? ????- Don't expect any changes to the top 6, meaning Kakko & Laf remain top-2 RWs- Practice revealed 3L of Blais, Chytil & Goodrow, leaving Kravtsov out & Carpenter as 4C- Only decisions left are picking 2 of 3 wingers between Hunt, Reaves & Vesey for 4L

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:26 pm EST

PJ - I think the big difference...and why I have a bigger problem with a game like last night...is that the Rangers weren't getting peppered with shots...and SHESTERKIN wasn't off at all...to my recollection, every goal was a 100 percent quality scoring chance where he didn't really stand much of a chance. Last year, seemed like they gave up a ton of shots, but few were of the variety of, for instance, the last goal, where literally a scrub walked in and potted one back door because LAF was coasting back. I get it. It's tough to stay focused on D when you're absolutely demolishing a team on offense. But they were not sharp defensively from midway on. Actually, really from the start of the second.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 1:02 pm EST

The zegras goal was on Schneider and he knew it. All a part of learning and nhl experience. I’m not a fan of jones because of his size which is too small for a dman but gord murphy seems to like him and /or dislikes hijack. Crabby krappy might end up a black ace . Vesey feces is somewhat becoming invisible. But it’s only 4 out of 82 , so I’m sure things will shake out and change a few times. Gallant is right about their d zone play, just not enough of team effort there. Guess gord Murphy is feeling a little heat. They are not really a 5 man unit in that zone. Again it’s early . 6 out of 8 points is very good.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 12:53 pm EST

Rangers giving up prime scoring chances is nothing new….They did this last year also with poor defensive play….Sure we were able to keep teams from scoring a lot but it was typically Igor playing out of his mind…..Will need more of a commitment to D if we are going all the way….With the rest of what we have going it would make us nearly unstoppable….Believe Hajek is better than Jones defensively at this point….

PJ

Tue Oct 18 2022 12:11 pm EST

The Rookie Whisperer, incidentally, is off to an 0-4 start...the worst team in the NHL at this point with the second worst differential...All setting up for a resounding defeat of the Rangers this week...but seriously...I hope we pound the Sharks like a goddamn mites squad. Unreal this guy continues to get jobs...

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:56 am EST

KIS - we weren't winning two seasons ago because we had a goddamn jack ass's anus coaching the team.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:47 am EST

Trade deadline I think the team will need a veteren defensemen for the push. as far as Kane, I say if the team has the money, make the deal. If it costs Kravtsov, Chytil and jones? go for it. Othmann is coming next year and can slot into the third line easily making Kravtsov and his attitude expendable. cheetos goes and goodrow move to the third line center where he should be and you can pick between blais Cuylle or whoever else. jones too is very expendable. Make the deal and bring in kane. We wont be in the cup winning situation forever. I have a special feeling about this year. This team is ready

Kis

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:43 am EST

think its funny that we Ranger fans are complaining about the score that the team wins by. Yes the team isnt playing very responsible defensive hockey especially in 3rd periods but the team is winning. Hell just 2 seasons ago we were complaining about why the team wasnt winning. this is a nice situation to be in . this Ranger team is good and will only get better. Hopefully we stay healthy.

Kis

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:30 am EST

I felt the same as TD. Giving up 4 to Anaheim is nothing to be proud of. End to end pond hockey is entertaining but not successful against good teams. Now it is early……..and they now know what it takes to go deep in the playoffs. The most important thing is for them to bank as many points as possible as they are tougher to come by after Christmas.

Bob

Tue Oct 18 2022 11:10 am EST

re: BLAIS - I'm hoping and very eager to see him play a full season. It's just so tough to get a feel for what his ceiling is because you see his hands and tenacity...and then you look at his numbers in juniors and the AHL...and it's quite possible this guy is a 40-50 point player. He's got the tools...but without a string of 50 or 60 games, it's just really hard to see beyond his existing body of work in the NHL, which suggests he's more along the lines of VESEY or maybe even a more able HUNT. He's another guy who has had just awful luck. And without a big season where he really solidifies himself in the lineup, he'll be living in a new ZIP code by next year at this time.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 10:52 am EST

Legs you genius, yesterday it was 4, I prefer 2.25 but that's not going to happen until the 3rd pair is established and the team plays a 200' game. May The Schwartz be with you!

mf

Tue Oct 18 2022 10:48 am EST

Know this is gonna sound a bit ridiculous, but...while I enjoyed the game, I was pretty fucking disappointed that the Rangers let a Ducks team limp around in that game. Four goals was probably three too many. There was some distinct lollygagging by forwards coming back into the zone...DEFINITELY by LAFRENIERE on that last goal...and I'm pretty sure he got benched for it to...But with exception to the ZEGRAS goal, I'm not sure any of those should'a gone in...seems like they went up by three and basically stopped playing D...actually, in a lot of ways, they reminded me of the Avalanche...this high-octane offensive juggernaut...but a bit of an adventure on defense...and while it worked great for Colorado, I'm really hoping this team doesn't abandon its defensive structure from last year, which was about as solid as they get...I keep saying it, but we need Barclay GOODROW on our fourth line. When KRAVT comes back, he should slide in for BLAIS and our group should be those two and a toss between CARPENTER and REAVES...speaking of KRAVT...man, talk about the hand he's been dealt by karma...i don't see any way KAKKO or LAF gets moved from their existing assignments. And while I don't think third line is a bad place for him to be, he's going to need to beat out BLAIS and VESEY...and to a degree, GOODROW for those spots...I think he'll be a regular part of the lineup...but up until that injury, it sure seemed like the plan was to have him in the top six and keep the LAF-CHYTIL-KAKKO line together.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 10:33 am EST

I’ve been noticing a confirmation on something EJ Hradik (a clock right 2x a day) stated. That is in playoff hockey 5v5 is often just a stalemate. You need a PP that clicks at north of 25% if you do, you’ll win hockey games. A version of this methodology certainly applies to the regular season. And y’all are right, such a level of lethality coming from the PP is a game changer. You can’t let a team with a killer PP take advantage of your mistakes. And while the math is higher and more complicated in a league of 1-goal (not garbage time or empty nets) winners if you just took a penalty that may very possibly just ended your teams chance to get a win. That makes you play cautious and very disciplined. And this NYR team can physically throttle you if you play passively. As we saw with the Ducks when they were buried in their own end.

E

Tue Oct 18 2022 9:48 am EST

Another advantage of having such a sick PP? Teams are gonna be a whole hell of a lot willing to take penalties against them. Tough to be throwing hits and banging when if you end up in the box, there's a 40 percent chance you're gonna be down a goal.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 9:40 am EST

ColoradoMark - Yeah, kinda tough to argue that GG should divvy up the PP time more judiciously when they basically possess the puck for the whole time...My only passing thought is that the second unit is essentially the "Kid" line with TROUBA and JONES, and those three forwards are absolutely BEASTLY when it comes to possession. Found myself thinking maybe it'd be nice to see them for 35-40 seconds, as opposed to the 15-20 seconds they get...But man, talk about having all the right pieces...FOX is just like a black hole back there when it comes to PKers trying to get the puck out. And it's crazy to think the "weakest" link on the back line is either PANARIN or Z...And man, if there were any worries about what they PP would do without STROME? My response is STROME who?!? DUKES has fit like a glove with those guys. This unit may very well be as good or better than whatever they have in Colorado.

tdchi

Tue Oct 18 2022 9:20 am EST

Mf I don’t know do you?

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 7:49 am EST

Legs: "how's your GAA?"

mf

Tue Oct 18 2022 6:52 am EST

“I don’t want to win games like that, I want to win games every night, but I don’t want four goals going in our net every night,” Gallant said. “Our guys know that, too."

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 18 2022 6:49 am EST

“ the Rangers have totaled 16 goals in their first three wins — 10 of which have come at even strength — to carve out a 3-1-0 start.”

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 9:59 pm EST

I thought Blais looked fine. When he was slow to the bench I was all like,”already???” What I like about Blais is he comes out 100% every shift. But one game does not make a big impression.

E

Mon Oct 17 2022 9:44 pm EST

Mf: I missed most of the game, but I saw he got the Broadway hat

Richter35

Mon Oct 17 2022 9:03 pm EST

Panarin 0-11 on his last breakaways

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 9:01 pm EST

WC: t/y

mf

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:51 pm EST

Zbad with an almost hat trick …. Glad he’s out scoring instead of the last 2 years of first 20 games being zshit

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:49 pm EST

@SNstats·7mCanucks are the first team in NHL history to lose each of their first 3 games of a season while blowing a multi-goal lead in each contest

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:49 pm EST

Wow, ....Phil Goyette ,what a great Ranger and a real steal from the mighty Habs back then.

Newfie_Ranger

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:49 pm EST

mf: His game definitely got better at the game went along. He made some good plays, but fir the first half of the game he was a bit off looking. But by the 3rd he was confident when he had the puck, handled it well, made some nice plays. Nothing fancy, just smart solid play. And I know he laid more than 3 hits. Not sure how they could hits, never have figured it out, but he ht more than 3 times.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:41 pm EST

I see that Sammy Blais got 13:34 minutes tonight & credited with 3 SOG & 3 Hits. Any comments on his play or skating? t/y

mf

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:38 pm EST

Chytil took a bit of a step down on the dot tonight...38% (5 and 8) Trocheck still good there 14 and 7 for 67% and the Ragners had a slight edge, 30 to 27 for 53%. Long long time since they have been this good on draws for this many game sin a row.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:38 pm EST

A real defensive gem not

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:30 pm EST

adding to that...its OK that Jones in his second pro season isnt a finished product...

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:30 pm EST

Stepunmytoe: Agree. Jones has improved by leaps and bounds over last season. But he still has a ways to go.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:29 pm EST

Ducks have already gotten on the bus to the hotel...

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:28 pm EST

Jones not so cleary better than Hijack. Hope GG keeps platooning them.

Stepunmytoe

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:27 pm EST

The way it goes, don’t see how Kreider score 50 again. Ziba might get 50+, instead.

andrei

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:25 pm EST

What a shot.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:25 pm EST

@NYRStatsInfo·12sArtemi Panarin has tied Rod Gilbert (1977-76) and Phil Goyette (1966-67) for the most assists through four games in team history with eight.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:25 pm EST

I want some sharks with my frickin' laser beams.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:24 pm EST

and Bread with his 10th point of the season...4 games...10 points...just silly.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:24 pm EST

yeah Mika!

wiosa

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:23 pm EST

Can't understand why Gallant likes to play 1st unit so much! Lol, they are money.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:23 pm EST

If that shot was 1/2 inch further over it hits the post...he couldn't have placed that shot more perfectly.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:22 pm EST

I tend not to like those calls. Zib could have easily allowed the stick to come out of his hand. There was no slash or effort there, just a standard chop down on the stick to defend. But its the way its called...so I will take the PP.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:18 pm EST

Careless 3rd again. Team has to learn can't keep letting this happen not if it wants to be elite

Kis

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:14 pm EST

Why was there a whistle? I didn't lose sight of it.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:12 pm EST

Defense? I’m not in love with this performance.

E

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:12 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·50mMika Zibanejad rips a shot and it appeared to go in off Kaapo Kakko's skate, 3-2 #NYR

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:11 pm EST

Reaves really did get faster this summer...

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:09 pm EST

No need to take that chance, Lingren

rngrsans

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:09 pm EST

Stevielegs: He tipped the original shot.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:06 pm EST

Nhl just gave it to kaapo I think it went off his skate

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:02 pm EST

Stevielegs: NO he deflected the original shot down...thats waht caused the rebound.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:00 pm EST

Ncranger no tip by kaapo

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:46 pm EST

What a finish to that period! Kakko def tipped Z’s shot, that goal has to his. Great play by the youngsters in that period. Bread is on fire to start this year!

NCRanger

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:43 pm EST

@NYRStatsInfo·1mArtemi Panarin (1G-2A) has recorded his 40th three-point game since 2018-19, the third-most in the NHL in that span.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:42 pm EST

OOOHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYY BREADDDDDDD

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:41 pm EST

9 points in 4 games. WTF...Ryan who? Strome who?

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:40 pm EST

Bread!

Ranger47

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:40 pm EST

Nice Chytil pass to LaF. They seem to have really good chemistry together.

Ranger47

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:39 pm EST

What a pass by CHYTIL!

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:38 pm EST

LAFFFFYYYYYYYYY

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:37 pm EST

If Trocheck didn't delay, he would've scored.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:35 pm EST

Damn...that was a hell of a glove save.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:33 pm EST

HOW DID THAT PUCK GET THROUGH!!!

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:31 pm EST

Nice move from Blais there. Hard to the net with the puck.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:31 pm EST

Who is the worse actor? McDavid or TGO?

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:28 pm EST

Bob: He is playing like he believes he belongs.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:27 pm EST

Kakko is looking very good.

Bob

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:26 pm EST

Kakko tipped it

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:23 pm EST

Zbad #2

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:23 pm EST

Oh..well...even if it wasnt a Kakko goal, it as scored because he was there...sort of like Kreider was responsible a few times last season where he got zero official credit.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:22 pm EST

ZBAD might get the goal. It looked like it went off Kakko's skate.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:22 pm EST

Did I just see a Ducks players skate into the zone BHIND his teammate and it not be offside?

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:21 pm EST

KAKkOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:10 pm EST

Schneider and Jones.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:10 pm EST

Schneider and Miller looked awful on that defensive play there too.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:09 pm EST

OK so Kreider was slow getting back...but where the hell was Schneider going? No reason he is on Jones half of the ice defending next to Jones...just no reason. That young pair has had some blunders. Unfortunately two of those have turned into goals against. Its bound to happen...but it sure sucks when it does.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:07 pm EST

MF... Plus/Minus is always a train wreck. You might want to consider dropping it and adding a different stat.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:04 pm EST

Bob... Good point. :)

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 7:02 pm EST

NHL +/- stats. They list Panarin as having 2 Assists, the Rangers are ahead 2-1, yet they have Panaring as a -1... Trocheck is credited with 1 goal, 1 assist, the Rangers are ahead 2-1, yet they have Trocheck listed as -1..... For those of you in the RFC fantasy league, perhaps the NHL is feeding Yahoo funky #'s which are messing with the Yahoo standings.

mf

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:59 pm EST

Game is in NY. I will be at the game in Anaheim next month. Would not miss it.

Bob

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:57 pm EST

Rhet...that is too funny....remeber when Bennett was in Calgary...same thing LOL

Newfie_Ranger

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:55 pm EST

He looks like a cop from the 70's.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:53 pm EST

Okay, LINDGREN has to go with a Van Dyke or Fu Manchu, but the pornstache is awful. It's got to go.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:52 pm EST

So via twitter...Chytil was 20 for 32 at the dot coming into the game today, and is 4-for-6 tonight. Something has changed in what he does with face-offs. Not sure if its just confidence, or if he got stronger, or if he learned something new. But he is like 15% or so better than last season, that is quite an impressive jump.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:45 pm EST

Rangers getting panic with the puck int he D zone again. Swatting at it, not taking the step they have time for to make a more solid play. Its like they dont trust that they can do it.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:44 pm EST

Has Bob checking in from the game yet? ....Thanks WILD.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:40 pm EST

Rhet: Doesnt look like it did, just missed him...it rose, sort of late, it "felt" like it was flat then jumped up, though it liekly was on the angle the entire time. Vetranos shot does that, his shot throws off goalies.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:38 pm EST

Did that deflect off Lindgren?

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:36 pm EST

That looked off side...but might have just been the angle.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:33 pm EST

pete: For sure it is rough on the 2nd unit. I mean, on that PP when was the time to start making line changes?

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:33 pm EST

Yeaaaahhhhh Buddddddyyyyyyyy

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:32 pm EST

Rhet: I think its becsaue they were just talking about the former guys...I bet he had a though about Vetrano he was waiting for the right moment to use, and...yeah...Ive done that before...it sucks...its embarrassing when its a room full of people...let alone on TV...I woudl have just quit and got home LOL

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:32 pm EST

HOLY MAMA, this PP has been absurd all season. The 2nd unit will never get on the ice this season

pete

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:31 pm EST

Oh my goodness....the Ducks advice ZERO answer for the Rangers right now.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:31 pm EST

I have brain farts too, but where I don't give Sam slack is in calling him Vatrano. He has the same #16 and MSG just got done doing a video for Strome. Why didn't he call him RYAN STROME?

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:29 pm EST

tombs = to be

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:28 pm EST

GREAT shift!

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:26 pm EST

Gibson is going to need tombs helped off the ice like whats his name in Slapshot LOL...its a shooting gallery out there

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:24 pm EST

Great Goal by Frank Vatrano... Errrr VINCENT TROCHECK.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:23 pm EST

Nice PP Goal by Trocheck, however a LHS RW would have slammed that mother home much more efficiently.

mf

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:22 pm EST

what a goal by FRANK VATRANO...lol

pete

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:22 pm EST

OK I know its becsaue he is getting old...but I have not laughed so hard at a guy for a mistake on a goal call as I just did there

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:19 pm EST

WILD: I think that is one of those young player mistakes that Anaheim makes. I watched the last game and they do get caught looking too much. Trouba be like if no one wants to cover me I’ll just keep going

E

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:11 pm EST

Trouba isnt the fastest, but that was a nice rush up the ice. I dont think the Ducks thought he woudl keep skating with it and kept expecting a pass. Good read by Troubs to take advantage of that.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:10 pm EST

Big thing for tonight. Rangers cant over react to the last game and forget what had them winning the first two and the good things from the loss and overly focus on defense...if they do that they wil end up on their heels instead of pressing the Ducks.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:09 pm EST

My only regret about STROME is that we didn't trade him after the 2020-21 shit-tacular season. I understood that decision, and really it was a judgement call by DRURY...But I would have moved him for whatever we could've gotten for him after that season...Good soldier, was a good Ranger for the most part, but he just isn't a strong second-line center. And the fact he's not very good at faceoffs just made him almost a placeholder...I think about what we probably could'a gotten in a trade, and I'm pretty sure someone would've given up either a package of picks...like a pair of seconds and a third, or a prospect and a pick or something...coulda gone after DANAULT with him gone. Or perhaps even revisited JT MILLER...All that said, he's a good pickup for Anaheim, especially since he doesn't have any clauses in his contract. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up getting moved for a nice package at the deadline either this or next year...but his time as a Ranger was done...and anyone with half a brain could see it...just like with GEORGIEV and DeANGELO...Just a shame we couldn't get more when they departed.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 6:05 pm EST

Rhet: I woudl bet he did when the summer hit. But right now? Probably not. Now, when a rather likely outcome, of his current team sitting at home and the Rangers still playing in the post season, he will probably think about that again. I would bet right now, the shine is still on all the new things he is getting in his life. I mean, no matter what, it's exciting to do new things while still doing what you love.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 4:49 pm EST

Remember that alleged $5.25-$5.5 Million offer the NYR's made Ryan Strome during the season last year? Do you think he thinks about that everyday? I bet he does.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 4:11 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr....Gerard Gallant says Vitali Kravtsov skated again today and is real close to getting cleared, but the #NYR coach wouldn’t say he’d go right back in the lineup.... “We’ll see what the team is playing like,” he said.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 4:03 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano....Gallant confirms that Jones will go back in for Hajek and that Blais will make his season debut tonight.... Kravtsov and Carpenter both skated on their own today and remain day-to-day. #NYR

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 3:54 pm EST

When it comes to helmets I wonder when the super "space age" tech will enter the designs. There are soft materials that when exposed to impact go rigid. They could make a flexible material that covers most of the neck and head area not under the traditional helmet area, that when a puck or stick hits it, or when it "feels" compression, it goes rigid. That could lead to a way to build in neck protection. Those materials could lead to more flexible shoulder and chest protection, more flexible and longer gloves, leg protection and foot protection when it comes to blocking shots. The issue now is that the materials are thick as hell and not cheap, but eventually they will get breakthroughs. Once those happen I think it will dramatically change sports protection across all sports. Imagine materials that move like current socks, that when pressure goes the wrong way they solidify...no more knees bending the wrong way, no more bones breaking on hits in hockey of football. Arm and hand wraps that limit the amount of breaks win arms and fingers. Cant wait for that day.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:40 pm EST

I would think that they can make a helmet similar to what some catchers wear in baseball( I really haven’t watched in a long time) …half the helmet can be a cage so they can see and hear.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:37 pm EST

Mollie Walker RetweetedLarry Brooks@NYP_Brooksie·Oct 16Carpenter not skating. Kravtsov in non contact good. Blais with Chytil, Vesey. Hunt-Goodrow-Reaves.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:36 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·4hNo #NYR morning skate today, coach Gerard Gallant to address the media at 5pm.Ryan Strome and Frank Vatrano return to MSG tonight with the Ducks

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:26 pm EST

CM - Thanks for the link...nasty and scary..but also lucky..could have been soo much worse..Surpised there aren't more MALARCHUK situations..

Hospo

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:08 pm EST

Hockey helmets will continue to suck as long as it’s a game that requires tons of talking. In reality these guys shouldn’t be wearing boil and bite mouth guards. They should have a football style. The players should be wearing a full face covering but it’s hot and it fogs up. So I think ultimately we will see players wearing something similar to a lacrosse helmet. They can add pressure sections like the new NFL helmets that are soft reinforcement in the frontal area that when you make contact the plastic gives in and the energy is dispersed from the head with soft jellyish material. Until the NHL takes it seriously head injuries they’ll still happen. But cuts? That’s a tough one because players have to stay light, they can’t have their peripheral vision blocked. Hockey is still a lot about fakes, stutters, jukes, body leaning etc. the more crap you add on them the less they can do. And it’s getting even better with guys like Zegras coming in tonight. Guys who have the most insane moves. Who wants to see them in a suit of armor?

E

Mon Oct 17 2022 2:00 pm EST

Strome was a good Ranger, but this is funny right here. He will score tonight for sure. https://mobile.twitter.com/NYPaingerspod/status/1581995946422009856

stepunmytoe

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:59 pm EST

Wildcard - Again, it's the players. My helmet, which isn't anything as awesome as some of the shit they have in the NHL, allows me to hear everything I need to hear and see everything I need to see. Is it as perfect as, say, not wearing a helmet? Of course not...but players bitch and moan about this sort of shit for no particular reason. Truth is, there isn't a helmet on the market that impedes someone's game. I still here people bitching about cages and how the "lose the puck" in them and whatever. Bullshit. It's just not that big of a deal. Even at the high pace NHL players play...It's just players being pissy about getting told what to do, even if its in their best interest and so that they're not a fucking human cantaloupe when they retire.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:54 pm EST

I got positively ZERO worries about OTHMANN and where he is. I mean, I wouldn't mind him playing in the AHL, but I think him dominating the OHL right now...ESPECIALLY given that he'll be on the WJC roster in two months...is right where he needs to be. Incredibly strong likelihood he's in the Ranger lineup this spring, unless his team goes deep, and then an even stronger likelihood he's on our roster next fall...and with the options we had with him...keep him or send him back to juniors...this was decidedly the right course...not a single doubt in my mind...even if it does mean I have to watch goddamn Dryden HUNT all season long.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:54 pm EST

As for Helmets. I read something a while back, sometime last season I think, where the NHL department of player safety in coordination with some other group that was hockey safety overall, was looking at some designs that were being tested to help with concussion, and other head injuries. The biggest complaint from players with ear protection was that they cant hear properly. So the NHL and NHL player safety along with the NHLPA were talking with some company about how they could make some sort of hearing aide type system into the helmets...so that the sound woudl be amplified or something, to a normal level, so that they could mandate full head covering. AN issue was the weight, if its too heavy then they cod cause more serious injuries other neck during hits. So there was an attempt to find new materials to make they ultra light but still effective so that they could add protection while even reducing weight over current systems. I have not been able to find more info, and this stuff was al focused on younger players leagues with help from he NHL level, and it seems tat NHL level money was being pushed hence the NHL having a hadn't in deciding if the tech woudl be allowed or not. It read liek we woudl see some team, or teams in Junior or even "lesser" leagues testing the tech once its finalized, and then jump into more leagues. Issue of course is cost. With current costs and types of materials they were looking at, something liek 2K per lid...so no way at those costs will they take off outside of teams like the Rangers and Leafs or whatever with deep pockets...and without help no way no how do junior teams or NCAA teams get them. But the main thing is, there are people working on this stuff to try to voice the things like Carpenter just had happen. The article also mentioned some new tech for arms, legs, chest, neck...all sorts of stuff. Again this was an article targeted at Junior level stuff.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:42 pm EST

Anders BJORK on waivers. Another good player. He was fantastic at Notre Dame, but never really explored his potential in Boston and Buffalo. Nonstarter here, since the Rangers don't have the cap to claim him...and MILANO was the better player anyways, so yes. More Dryden HUNT.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:40 pm EST

Rhet: Haglin is another useless visor guy...he has the shortest one he can get and he tips it up...basically its not doing anything at all. The NHL does need a standard.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:39 pm EST

rf4L: Actually that kind of domination is what I worry about with sending a kid down. He already had a eons that woudl have made him confident in himself...doesnt need another really. And when you can just do whatever you want, when you want and everything works, humans relax...its natural. Peopel stop pressing to get better, because there is no need to. The real risk is that the off the puck stuff becomes too easy. It doesnt mean that he will never recover of course, but it wil take some time at the pro level. Thats what happened with Jones IMHO, he played the same way he had in NCAA his first pro year, and yeah, that just doesnt work, but in NCAA he was able to just overcome positional issues and the like with almost no issues, he had this habits when he came to the NHL and AHL and he was not as good, and frankly looked liek he was not a pro level defender. Now he did some homework this summer, because he came into camp this year doing it right. I could see the same the of issues from Othmann after a soon in junior where he is clearly a step above the bulk of the competition. It coudl take him some time to figure out the spots he needs the extra push for in order to be productive on and off the puck. If eh coudl have been in the AHL this season that woudlnt happen, because he would be learning the next step stuff...but its all water under the bridge. Hopefully the coaching staff there will keep on him and not be overly happy with his offensive output.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:21 pm EST

Yeah. methinks CARPENTER will be out for a few more games...

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:20 pm EST

MILANO clears waivers. Woulda been a good claim for the Rangers if we didn't already have the awesomely spectacular Gretzky-in-the-making Dryden HUNT.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 1:12 pm EST

Rhet0ric - Not that a redesign could hurt anything, but part of the issue is the players themselves not wanting to wear the equipment properly. So many guys in the NHL and in hockey in general boost their visor up so far it's just pointless wearing one to begin with. The old school visors when they first came out were probably more protective than the ones today, since they basically came down to the chin. Nowadays though? They basically cover the eyes and that's it...re: CARPENTER, it really looks more like a freak accident, unless he wasn't wearing his chinstrap tight. But that's another area I've noticed where NHLers(and hockey players in general) will screw with the manufactured product. You can take a bunch of the ear protection out if you like...and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what a lot of players do...quite frankly, I don't step on the ice without a bucket and a full cage. I never...EVER...understood guys who go with shit for head protection. Used to skate with an old NCAA D1/Euro pro player and he used to wear a fucking 70s-era Joffa(even though he played in the 90s) that wouldn't protect him from a goddamn nerf ball. Used to bag on him about it...then in a tourney he crash a post with it and ended up with 50-plus stiches and a nasty concussion. Saw him a year later and you think he'd learn? Nope. Same stupid useless helmet...Another guy I skate with wears his visor up like LINDGREN. Dude took a high stick that split his top lip last summer. We had to get a fucking shovel to get all the blood off the ice...Second game of the season this year? Wearing it the same way and got his nose bust(plus 20 or so stiches)...paramedics called...blah blah blah...just some players you can't reason with.

tdchi

Mon Oct 17 2022 12:46 pm EST

CoMark.... Jumping Jehoshaphat, was Mike Tyson in town? As bad as it looks, it could have been worse. Which brings up the discussion again on redesigning the head gear to make it better/safer for players. Visors are also still a joke. There is still no league standard. Look no further than the NYR's defensemen. Fox wears a decent one while Lindgren is barely wearing a visor at all. Lindgren's would really cause as many problem's as it solves. Look at them the next time they're on the ice.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 12:11 pm EST

In regard to Othmann: He carries that team. They're not very good without him. Last season, they scored 286 goals and had let in 238 against. Othmann had 50 goals and 47 assists last year. He's learned all he can learn at that level, hopefully the NYR's give him a callup later in the season :)

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 17 2022 12:09 pm EST

Stevie- The link I posted has a picture. It is not for the faint of heart! Absolutely scary looking.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 17 2022 11:59 am EST

Makes me wonder....If a player gets his ears pierced can you put him on injured reserve? :)

Ranger47

Mon Oct 17 2022 11:25 am EST

Hospo they didn’t say but I hear he has a half moon cut behind his ear . I’m not sure how many stitches, but he’s out tonight, and I guess he’ll be on the day to day story unless the coach says differently.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 10:57 am EST

What is interesting is that Flint was predicted to be one of the league's powerhouses but they are off to a lousy start; they are 3 and 4 and sitting 16th (out of 20) overall. I don't follow the OHL close enough to say definitively what the problem is but they are 16th overall in goals against while 4th overall for goals scored so either they are poor defensively or they have inferior netminding (or both). Othmann is a +5....

rf4L

Mon Oct 17 2022 10:50 am EST

Brennan Othmann is tied for leading the OHL in goals (7), tied for first in point (13) and tied for 8th in PIMs (17). For those fretting that being sent back to junior for his final teenaged year would be detrimental, well you can probably stop that fretting.

rf4L

Mon Oct 17 2022 10:01 am EST

HOSPO- You don't want to really see this, but if you must: https://twitter.com/NYRangerstown/status/1581348868729757696?s=20&t=k6CMhiWs7nBjM8yUkvsR9A

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 17 2022 8:49 am EST

STEVIE - which means CARPENTER out for at least another game..Any news on how bad of a cut he took?

Hospo

Mon Oct 17 2022 5:16 am EST

“It was assuredly not coincidental that the Rangers were dialed in through Sunday’s contact-heavy 45-minute practice in which work on the boards and in down-low coverage were points of emphasis coming off Friday’s 4-1 defeat in Winnipeg.No nonchalance. The bar has been set high.”

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 17 2022 5:14 am EST

“Barclay Goodrow is shifting from the left side of the third line to play in the middle of the fourth line between Dryden Hunt and Ryan Reaves. Blais will play the right on the third line with Filip Chytil and Jimmy Vesey.”

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 16 2022 7:36 pm EST

https://thehockeywriters.com/blues-revisiting-pavel-buchnevich-trade/

schneidw

Sun Oct 16 2022 2:50 pm EST

Tdchi …Your favorite guy …. https://nypost.com/2022/10/15/nhl-shouldnt-wait-to-fix-its-looming-salary-cap-disaster/

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 16 2022 2:48 pm EST

Tdchi the Nyr like many nhl teams don’t have much cap space.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 16 2022 2:17 pm EST

The NYR's and the Jets both had Saturday off too... I know the NHL wants to get's every teams season started ASAP, but Winnipeg couldn't have opened their season on Saturday Instead of Friday. It would've been a fair match as opposed to one of the participant's being totally exhausted. Both teams would've then had Sunday off. Just saying.

Rhet0ric

Sun Oct 16 2022 2:09 pm EST

RF4L - recognizing that beating on the Pack is a guilty pleasure you have and not wanting to rain on your parade here, most folks are saying the Pack this year are better than they’ve been in a very long time. And on top of that, they have all flavors of prospects that folks here seem to dig. I’m not gonna get all high and mighty about them like I usually do, but I would be very surprised if they miss the playoffs this season. They got a real good blend of great AHLers and young talent. Didn’t watch the games this weekend, but they were playing one of the traditionally stronger teams in the league. Have patience.

tdchi

Sun Oct 16 2022 2:02 pm EST

Looks like Washington is trying to sign Sonny MILANO. Just went on waivers. Given KRAVTSOV’s sitch, BLAIS being questionable, CARPENTER probably out for at least a couple weeks, this is a no-brainer claim. Let LAFRENIERE and KAKKO take the top six, bump MILANO on a wing with VESEY and CHYTIL, and then let GOODROW center REAVES and HUNT until BLAIS comes back. Zero idea why teams avoid this kid. He’s a very talented player and plays the game with bite. Also a big Ranger fan FWIW.

tdchi

Sun Oct 16 2022 1:53 pm EST

Must be a fairly complex computer program to figure out the nhl schedule .

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 16 2022 5:12 am EST

Not one NHL game scheduled today (10/16)?

Drew

Sun Oct 16 2022 5:09 am EST

Mic'd up goalie...https://files.skoften.net/encoded/video/2584386/skft-850366d54f65cc65bc205e8a6bbaabbc392a8d680e12dbeafe253c79263b7dd4.mp4

RF73

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:29 pm EST

Pack lose again. Lol

Rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:20 pm EST

UFAs 22-23: Impressive list, none of which NYRs can afford at trade deadline without some major salary retention.... https://www.thedailygoalhorn.com/nhl-free-agent-tracker-top-20-pending-ufa/

schneidw

Sat Oct 15 2022 8:46 pm EST

Isles look like they are cup favorites ; )

Drew

Sat Oct 15 2022 7:29 pm EST

Jackets playing in St Louis for Blues home opener….Third game in four nights for Jackets and first game of season for Blues…Horrible scheduling by NHL early in season…Oh and Buch opens the scoring….

PJ

Sat Oct 15 2022 6:08 pm EST

2-losing games with a crap roster of never will, never was, and never agains and you sign his death certificate? Tough crowd.

E

Sat Oct 15 2022 1:59 pm EST

TD…Rangers play Ducks on Monday….They have the weekend off….

PJ

Sat Oct 15 2022 1:42 pm EST

TD, cut Huntster some slack, he stopped the puck with his skate and hit the upper corner short side. I was hoping he'd score again so that I could label him, "TD" as in, "The Deuce!" ;-)

mf

Sat Oct 15 2022 1:01 pm EST

TD. I don’t think it’s the league vs the questionable players the Rangers selected from there…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 1:00 pm EST

TD. Re Hunt Haters Humbled followed shortly thereafter by Horrid Hunt: That’s one of the great things about this wall - I can vent unchallenged during a game. It’s extremely stress relieving!! Lololol

Rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 12:58 pm EST

Hospo. From last night Halak = Hajek

Rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 12:24 pm EST

tdchi....Hunt is gonna be Hunt and for now we have to live with it but what stood out and worried more was Miller loosing that short quick 1 on 1 battle behind our net ,that led to a goal as well. He is never gonna be "mean" but he has to use that size and weight in those types of situations.

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 15 2022 11:19 am EST

Speaking of shit shows, the Rookie Whisperer is at it again! The Sharks are very clearly in a rebuild...even if GRIER might not know it yet...and Dave QUINN has iced a shit-tacular lineup that has lost three straight...and just absolutely packed with scrubs...meanwhile William EKLUND, Thomas BORDELEAU and Ryan MERKLEY...three guys that would probably make most NHL rosters...are pulling ice with the Barracuda. Man, the fact that he's in the NHL again is absolutely mystifying. Even moreso than TORTORELLA and RUFF, who at least can fall back on past accolades to con their way into a job...this clown, however...failed with the Rangers. Failed with the Olympic team. Failed with the World Championship team. Gets job and is now failing with the Sharks. Man, Mike Grier breaks the NHL executive color barrier and then his first choice is to hire this shameless charlatan...

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 11:12 am EST

Tom427 mentioned, but it bears mentioning again: The goddamn scheduling here was absolutely batshit crazy. Not only did the Rangers have three games in four nights, but each night, they played a team that was having its first game of the season. Only two other teams played three games through last night, and that was the Sharks and the Predators. The Sharks got five games between their Eurotrip with the Preds and their first North American game, and the Preds got four. Like I get three games in four days. That's part of being in the NHL and it's a reality. But against three opponents that each haven't played a game yet? That's nonsense. I'm really curious whether that's ever happened to a team before. At least tomorrow, they get Anaheim after their back-to-back. But still, four games in six days is a rough haul. Do not be surprised if Sunday's game is an absolute shit show.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 11:05 am EST

RF4L - I read they told Jones to get a more permanent place than his hotel so I'm not sure he's being farmed out anytime soon.

LeoS

Sat Oct 15 2022 11:02 am EST

RF4L - That's encouraging about GRUBBE, but I just have such a tough time getting hyped up about our prospects in the WHL. Too many times have I fallen into thinking dudes who light up that league will end up playing for an NHL spot...ZBOROVSKIY, RONNING, TAMBELLINI, and GROPP to name a few...ST. CROIX was another...But we'll see...meanwhile, two of the Rangers' center prospects grabbed pine last night for Hartford. Both KORKZAK and HENRIKSSON benched.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:51 am EST

LOL..Gotta love the Wall...9:11 PM. DRYDEN HUNT!! WOW!! HUNT HATERS SUCK IT!!! 9:31 PM. Man, HUNT fucking sucks.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:41 am EST

mf - Not to detract from HUNT'S first and possibly only goal this season, he was literally fed that puck in a manner that it would've been tough for him to fuck up. Yeah, he had to be in the right place at the right time...but man, talk about a gimme.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:40 am EST

Rhet0ric - FWIW, I'm pretty sure the Jets had BARRON at wing. Which I don't really understand, but...that's where the Rangers were playing him too. But agreed. I would have much rather had him on the roster than HUNT.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:34 am EST

Wildcard - BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA...You are ***SERIOUSLY*** going to try to argue with me about RUFF...the fucking DEVIL'S COACH?!? Dude, you are something else. Both guys are relics of a by-gone era. Neither has adapted well. But if one has better than the other? It's Torts. But I'm not even going to get into this with you on this. That is the stupidest point you've tried to argue in a very long time.

tdchi

Sat Oct 15 2022 10:31 am EST

Hospo. I try not to.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 9:54 am EST

RF4L - Not sure why you read all those NYR fan social media posts if they irk you so much!!..I thought both HAJAK (and Jones before him) and SCHNNEIDER were solid but also had some issues against the higher lines...To be expected and hopefully they just get better as the season goes along and make a vet unnecessary....From all of GG's words, it sounds like he wants to keep both Jones and Hajak playing..probably until one takes the job or blows it..And their will be injuries, so we need both for sure

Hospo

Sat Oct 15 2022 9:35 am EST

Speaking of prospects, off to a very good start is Jayden Grubbe - in 4 games he's got a goal and 7 assists for 8 points. He's the captain of the Red Deer Devils who are 6 and 0 to start their season. Grubbe is the kid the Rangers selected with Buffalo's 3rd round pick 2 years ago, a pick they landed when they traded Vesey to the Sabres. His scouting report from a character perspective is off the charts but he had a very mediocre season last year. He was, however, coming off a serious knee injury from the previous covid impacted season where he played only 5 games. He's 6'3" 210 and (DRUM ROLL PLEASE) a centre. I don't think he's signed yet and I guess that's in part because of his poor season last year. He keeps this output up and it's hard to believe a contract offer won't occur.

rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 9:27 am EST

Othmann off to a roaring start with 6 goals and 11 points in 5 games. Interesting that for goals he's tied with David Goyette a kid I was hoping the Rangers would draft using their 2nd round pick but Seattle took him a few slots before their pick came around. Goyette is of course, a centre.

rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 9:05 am EST

I turned it off half way thru the 3rd but saw enough to feel confident is saying that Hajek looked good thereby making 90% of Ranger fans (at least those that post on social media) look like the hockey ignorant people they are. The nastiness that kid gets thrown his way is despicable IMO and ridiculously off-base. I hope he's in next game but I do not like the idea of Jones watching in the pressbox too much. Surely there is a veteran d-man available for a low return who's comfortable being the 7th d-man so Jones can be farmed out for now. Injuries are inevitable so Jones likely wouldn't be in Hartford endlessly.

rf4L

Sat Oct 15 2022 7:41 am EST

Newfie: Even the best teams have below 50% games at the dot. The current rangers percentage would have been 5th best last season. I know its a long way to go, but they are sitting just under 54% after 3 games....and the bulk of the teams ahead of them have played just 1 game. SO their numbers will come down a bit after having really good first games. I dont mean that the Ragners ell pass them all...if they maintain what they are doing they will end up someplace in the top 15...thats about the 50% club for the season each year. Sometimes a couple more, but right around 15 teams each year area at 50% or better. But this is coming off a stretch of seasons where they were in the mid 40% range and in the bottom third of the NHL. SO its it impressive non the less. And I think if you talk with most coaches, if you can be at 50% or better most nights they will be happy...

Wildcard

Sat Oct 15 2022 7:32 am EST

Bob: Refs clearly had a “let them play” type game. I would say it was mostly even for non calls or missed calls. Though I thought the Jets got away with a few when the Rangers were really coming on strong. I don’t remember anything particularly crazy being let go…for either side. Lots of stick and interference type stuff, but both sides did it. The only issue I have is that the Rangers put the screws to them, and they got tired and started reaching with sticks, but the Rangers were not rewarded for that.

Wildcard

Sat Oct 15 2022 4:58 am EST

“ Ryan Carpenter suffered a brutal skate cut to his neck/ear area”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 15 2022 4:56 am EST

Mr chypil…“All the people can talk with you about how the playoffs are different than the regular season, or how hard it is,” he said. “But if you experience it as something where you can feel your experience, where you can get better as a player — because you play against the best teams in the league and you play the hardest games [that] you can play in our sport — it helps a lot.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 15 2022 4:39 am EST

“We were not great in the first, I thought we played a real good second and then the third, I think we ran out of gas,” Rangers coach Gerard Gallant said after the loss. “We made a lot of mistakes in the defensive zone, which usually happens from mental mistakes and tired mistakes. We created a lot of chances, but we just gave up way too much.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 15 2022 4:34 am EST

“It had to be real tough on him,” Gallant said early in training camp of Hajek’s role last season. “A guy comes in all the time and is saying, ‘Am I going to get a chance? Am I going to get an opportunity?’ We like the kid, there was nothing wrong with the kid, there was nothing wrong with the kid’s game. It’s just everything was going pretty for us last year, so he didn’t get much of an opportunity.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 15 2022 4:32 am EST

“The AHL Hartford Wolf Pack announced Jonny Brodzinski as captain and Turner Elson and Tanner Fritz as the alternates for the 2022-23 season.”

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 11:46 pm EST

An incredibly rare thing occurred this evening….Gauthier and Hunt scored on the same night….What are the odds?……

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:46 pm EST

Hospo....the goal scorer sits for Blais,that's a gimme.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:41 pm EST

Hospo….I would sit Hunt but it just may be Vesey….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:32 pm EST

Missed the game…..but 41 SOG and only draw 2 PP’s? Seems off to me.

Bob

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:24 pm EST

Rhet...I know right...meaning you have 3 hits and you could strike out 7 times :)....Williams is an ICON for coming close to a 400 ave.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:13 pm EST

So, if they can patch Carpenter up, who sits for BLAIS, our goal scorer or Jimmy Vesey??? Or a night off for Reaves..too early for the latter in my book

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:11 pm EST

In baseball, if you get 3 hits out of every 10 AB's for your career, you're likely in the HOF.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:58 pm EST

Wild ,please take this the right way and I don't want to rain on your parade ,and keep the stats coming by all means but this face -off thing ? ......50 % is good at any level....but you do realize what that means....we take 100 draws and we win 50, yes and we lose 50. Just sayin'.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:55 pm EST

Wiosa.... Yech, indeed.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:54 pm EST

Blaming the loss on Hunt ??Really....he did score didn't he or was that a dream...the Score was 4-1, the 1 was us by the way . Geez.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:53 pm EST

Yech. Oh well.

wiosa

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:53 pm EST

@NYRStatsInfo·2m#NYR finished the game with 41 shots on goal, bringing their total to 115 shots this season. Since shots were first tracked in 1959-60, the Rangers' 115 shots are the second most through the first three games of a season (1970-71 - 121) by the club.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:52 pm EST

Oh face-offs basically even 49-51 Jets had the edge. Rangers won 28 and lost 29...still cant complain about that aspect of the game.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:51 pm EST

Oh, and Hejek. I think he played well. Nothing special. But he had some good outlet passes. Made some really smart plays with the puck at other points where he didnt try to be fancy, just made the safe play. Was good positionally for the most part. Wasnt getting beat to puck often. Probably helps that he was rested, other than travel. A cupel times he and Schneider got running around a bit, but I think both times was against the top line of the Jets...so its a little to be expected. But they didnt get burned

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:49 pm EST

While I wont say that the game was stolen by the guy in net, he did a great job making the saves he had to. The Ragners didnt challenge him much other than a stretch int e second period that he made some top end saves. Most nights you put 40 shots on net you probably get at least 2 goals. But tonight even 2 wasnt enough....they needed to find a way to make him work harder, but it just wasnt happening. Passes were not hard enough or accurate enough for the most part, they seemed liek they were lagging behind mentally at times, and they phsycialy had a hard time with the size of the Jets...not the physicality, just the size. With how much room they take up, their reach being long, and just having the weight to hold firm to stop the Ragners from being able to move at will. Hopefully its more because it was 3 in 4 and back to backs on the road. Now for the good side? The got down early and didnt fall apart, they took over int he second, and started to punt pucks not he net, simplified their game quite a lot. Created chances, and kept their feet moving for the most part. Thats very good, as in the past they woudl have folded up and had a 3rd period push that was way too late. So, some good with the bad.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:46 pm EST

Go home and get ready for the Ducks….Hope Carpenter is ok….Hajek was solid which is also good news…

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:44 pm EST

So much for going 82-0 Halek played well - we just couldn’t convert.

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:43 pm EST

Oh well, The team get's a mulligan in my book. This loss was purely due to the schedule. What a bizarre way to start the season, three games in four days. The NHL is weird.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:42 pm EST

41 sog 1 goal must be the hot goalie syndrome

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:42 pm EST

ZBAD needs to put his contacts in.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:42 pm EST

JFC31….They just ran out of gas….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:42 pm EST

Oh well..for the trifecta! Lose to the least of the firsst three opponents but was a hard game...tired both physcally and mentally by the end of the game...The talent is there..still liking the kids.

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:42 pm EST

JFC: And a player down. Whiel he doesnt play a lot, Carpenter being out means that the other forwards had to play just a bit more...and on a back to back on the road that is tough.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:41 pm EST

Sucks...but I cant be too upset with the effort. Looks liek they ran out of gas. As for Halak, Dont know if you can really blame him on any of the goals. Played a solid game, too many break downs in front of him. Probably at least 2 of those go in on Igor as well...the first one Igor may have gotten, but it was a hell of a shot so maybe not. But still, liekly doesnt stop the other two...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:41 pm EST

Oh well. 3 in 4 nights is always tough.

Bob

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:40 pm EST

Oh well….Rangers have some things to work on….Halak did well which is good news….Learn, learn, learn.

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:40 pm EST

Sam is not recognizing how gassed the Rangers became the 2nd 1/2 of the 3rd…he’s giving all the credit to Winnipeg. It’s not that as much as it is the Rangers being gassed. K’Andre was slow getting to that puck behind the net & lost it easily…exhausted.

JFC31

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:40 pm EST

Captain trouba that was a bad penalty

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:39 pm EST

Stevielegs: From what I saw, he was quite, not bad, not good, just quiet. Made some nice plays, didnt stand out in any way really.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:38 pm EST

Must be an echo

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:38 pm EST

That pass form Zib to Kreider is a microcosm of this game...not enough zip to it, far too soft and trying to feather things. Cant have that happen too often.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:38 pm EST

What ryhdal do in Hartford tonight?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:38 pm EST

What ryhdal do in Hartford tonight?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:38 pm EST

What ryhdal do in Hartford tonight?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:37 pm EST

PJ: Yeah...he reacted liek he was angry with himself...I am sure he knows he screwed up regardless of what his mind told him at the moment it was happening.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:36 pm EST

Keep ZBAD and Kreider on for the PK.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:36 pm EST

I swear I heard that hit a stick as it left his stick...he didnt complain though...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:36 pm EST

That seals it….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:35 pm EST

Can’t allow all of these great chances tied late in third period..,,

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:34 pm EST

Hospo: Forward was back...and just out of position...they actually outnumbered the Jets around the net area...Trocheck just went towards the puck and didnt take away the threat. Maybhave thought that Trouba was behind him or something...but they have been missing the late man and the man behind them all night. SO its not just this play, its been an issue tonight.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:34 pm EST

Wild…Believe Trocheck knew he did….Was pissed at himself after goal….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:34 pm EST

Where’s coach Kelly’s great defense?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:33 pm EST

HALAK definitely not the problem tonight, he has played his ass off.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:32 pm EST

MILLER another miscue..and the forwards taking their time getting back...Sucks!

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:32 pm EST

Horrid Hunt.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:32 pm EST

Trocheck over committed there are well in front....drifted too far to the puck side and left the weak side open...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:31 pm EST

That was tough. Halak deserved better.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:31 pm EST

Ran out of gas….Feel bad for Halak…,Poor D…..

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:31 pm EST

And thats why Hunt sucks...clearly wasnt going to be able to do anything with the Rangers changing...and he had a chance to chip it deep...instead the puck goes the other way and pressure leads to a goal....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:31 pm EST

Somebody put Wheeler through the boards.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:30 pm EST

RF4L - That "+90%" comment..was that meant for HAJAK or HALAK or SAJAK?? HAJAK has been fine

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:29 pm EST

Need a Z line appearance. Is Kreider dressed??

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:28 pm EST

Hunt>>>>>Barron..so it's a wash...

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:27 pm EST

By the way that is 71% for Chytil...outstanding.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:27 pm EST

Not sure if its form before or after that last draw...but NHL.com showing Chytil 10 and 4 on draws WTF!! Where did this come from?

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:26 pm EST

Barron >>> Crapentar = salary hit. Stupid trade.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:25 pm EST

Faceoffs 52%-48% Ragners...closer now. But still...this is a good thing for the Ranger after the last decade...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:25 pm EST

Good game? What game are these clowns watching?

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:25 pm EST

Halak solid. Gee what a surprise. To 90+% of Ranger fans including the dumbass sheeplike media.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:24 pm EST

WPG is a really heavy team.

E

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:24 pm EST

Rangers looking tired….Jets know it…..Need to dig down…. Short shifts…Tough being down a forward….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:24 pm EST

Rangers need to make sure they get enough on passes in their own zone to get to their teammates...they are laying pucks up far too softly....and the guy looking to receive the puck isnt being hard on there stick...dont know if its fatigue or just something I didnt notice the last couple games...but I dont think it was quite like this.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:24 pm EST

The NYR's need a PP.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:20 pm EST

seems the Rangers are being surprised by guys coming from behind...the rest of the team needs to be getting vocal to warn them...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:17 pm EST

@NYRStatsInfo·49sThe last Rangers skaters before Panarin to record five-plus assists through the team's first three games of a season were Mark Messier and Brian Leetch in 1992-93.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:17 pm EST

HUNT that is.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:17 pm EST

Unbelievable pass by Trocheck on the goal. With that goal, GG will decide to keep him on there 2nd line for the next 10 games.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:16 pm EST

My goodness…that shift by Laf was INSANE!

JFC31

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:16 pm EST

That pass Trocheck put across woudl have been right on the tape had it not gone off the defenders skate there...that was impressive.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:16 pm EST

Kakkao is going to have to learn how to balance his craving to lug the puck with the need for going straight to the net!.....And I want SCHNEIDER to grow a mullet so I can think it's Gresch!!

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:13 pm EST

Panarin now with 5 assists through 3 games...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:12 pm EST

Reaves almost broke himself trying to get that bouncing puck LOL

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:12 pm EST

Hunt! Who woulda thunk!

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

Not as big as HUNTSIE though! 4th line baby...Morgan who? :)

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

Hunt Haters Humbled.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

oh yeah, and some guy named HUNT scored.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

Dry hump mike hunt

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

Dryden "TD" Hunt !!!!!

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:11 pm EST

WOO HOOO.... What a play by PANARIN!

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:10 pm EST

Hunt the sniper!

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:10 pm EST

WHHHAAAAAAA!!!!

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:10 pm EST

Damn, that was some dangling by LAFFY..Big year a comin!!

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:10 pm EST

Oh man...Was Kreider not ready for that pass?

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:09 pm EST

Carpenter done for the evening. Pfft, a real hockey player would've put his head back together with duck tape.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:07 pm EST

WOW..that cut was bad enough to keep carpenter out for the rest of the game?

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:06 pm EST

Need to solve Hucklebuck….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:02 pm EST

Gotta kill this upcoming PP and go from there…

JFC31

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:02 pm EST

For the Pack. No POs for 7 straight years.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:01 pm EST

It’s been game over for the since the 2014/15 season.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:58 pm EST

Upside down he might hear words backwards

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:57 pm EST

Would like to see something from Trocheck in the third…Haven’t noticed Vesey much in this one….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:57 pm EST

Stevie... Optional.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:56 pm EST

Rhet with or without a whole ear ?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:53 pm EST

They put Frankenstein together, surely they can stitch Carpenter back together.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:52 pm EST

Now that's holding the fort on the road. great job. Geeez , Hallebuck is huge,maybe even bigger than the TampaBay Wall. bad call on Chytl at the end but that's what happens where you call nothing...that little thing stands out...still a bad call. out shot them bad in that period. Kill this penalty and get back to work. this is a good game to watch.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:52 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·12mI can't even type the words to describe that, brutal skate cut. Hope he's okay.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:51 pm EST

Wow, Kreider & Z are OFF just enough to not convert…a lot of fumbling & just not quite as sharp as they need to be. Halak has been terrific. Gotta give Tangers credit for being way better in the 2nd period. They may still pull,this game out…but, it’s gonna be tough with Hellybuck also playing well. Kakko should have shot instead of trying to pass to Laf. That’s kinda the story of the game…Rangers not quite sharp enough but getting close

JFC31

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:50 pm EST

5237Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·14mRyan Carpenter to the #NYR room...2547Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·10mI can't even type the words

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:50 pm EST

Agree Kakko had to shoot that one….He just dumped it to no one….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:50 pm EST

Cancel X-MAS and the rest of the Pack's season. You can't win game 1, it's clearly over.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:49 pm EST

Wow, TROUBS bailed up MIller big time there...Not smart CHYTL, but the Rangers were running around.......HALAK with a good 1st..HELLYBUCK with a GREAT 2nd..Except for the last minute, they played well

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:49 pm EST

If we can have another period like that we should win.

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:49 pm EST

Back to back games early in the season are not easy to play.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:48 pm EST

Rangers still up in face-off percentage for the night. Lets see if they can turn that into something in the 3rd.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:47 pm EST

WAY too many passes

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:47 pm EST

Great chance at end of PP….Not moving puck quickly enough though….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:47 pm EST

The NYR's are playing well but the still seem like they're on fumes.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:47 pm EST

The picks and prospects in Hartford are the sos?

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:47 pm EST

SHOOT THE PUCK KK!!!

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:46 pm EST

First two games those bounced in....getting no puck love tonight...got to keep it up...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:45 pm EST

Jets have active quick sticks...and they get them into passing panes a lot...makes it hard to develop things.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:44 pm EST

Kreider quiet so far….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:43 pm EST

Get one here….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:42 pm EST

damn...tat woudl have been epic....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:42 pm EST

No worries with the Pack….Gauthier will score again before Christmas….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:41 pm EST

Funny how the refs have decided to "let the boys play" now that the Ragners are not in the lead....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:40 pm EST

Rangers doing well now but not making Hellephuck work too hard yet.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:39 pm EST

HAJEK is backing up my earlier post- slowest shot in the NHL.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:38 pm EST

Pack lose 4 3. Outshot 44 22. Same old shit.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:38 pm EST

HAJAK has been good but by backing up and away almost let that guy walk in for a goal...

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:38 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·4mI spoke to Willard last season for one of my favorite stories I've ever written... Only available on #PostSportsPlus: https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/rangers-ryan-reaves-had-a-punchers-chance-and-he-connected/…Quote TweetMollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·5m#NYR Ryan Reaves' dad Willard Reaves is in the house!

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:37 pm EST

Jets top line against our third pair D not good…

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:35 pm EST

CHYTL keeps it up like he has the first three games, Rangers are strong down the middle..which you need

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:35 pm EST

Took some time but very good period so far….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:34 pm EST

That scary...yikes...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:33 pm EST

And the 2nd line is on fire. Need the Z line to wake up.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:31 pm EST

My gosh Chytil looks like a different player so far.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:30 pm EST

Rangers seem to have woken up. Cant imagine the Jets are feeling very good about this period right now....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:29 pm EST

Morgan Barron has been pretty good tonight, too bad we can't draft ourselves a center like that. Oh wait....

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:28 pm EST

No call in the Laffy hook.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:28 pm EST

I want to be mad at Panrin for tying to force a pass...but literally no rangers players were moving...cant just stand still like that...its liek everyone was waiting for Panarin to do something.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:25 pm EST

Much better - keep it up.

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:25 pm EST

Ragners creating, getting shots...but they need bodies and movement in front now.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:21 pm EST

Coming alive….Jets will give up chances….Next goal huge…

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:21 pm EST

Short side Laf. Short side. Hellephuck has a strong glove hand.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:20 pm EST

Rf4L: I think we are going to see him a little up and down this year...with each up being a bit higher, and each down with a bottom not a low as the last one.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:20 pm EST

Hajek has had some nice outlet passes tonight...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:19 pm EST

We are watching the emergence of Laffy.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:18 pm EST

3 shifts in a row now that are better...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:18 pm EST

RF4l - Carpenter has been fine, but I'm not gonna argue that one! But maybe Huntsie instead

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:18 pm EST

Kakko got the memo. Simple play dump and go after it...created pressure....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:16 pm EST

Way to goat

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:15 pm EST

By the way, the Gauthier goal..was "his goal" Driving from the wing, cit across the blue paint and tuck it in. Its literally the only way the guy gets a goal LOL

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:15 pm EST

No. That’s where Crapentar should be.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:14 pm EST

Rangers needed a short like that. 4th line doing its job and got a pretty good chance with some traffic in front. Hope that can get the team going.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:14 pm EST

Good shift by fourth line.

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:13 pm EST

RF4L - you're right, we need Barron in Hartford right now

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:12 pm EST

LOWRY is a big boy! Wouldn't mind having him..Oh well, good lineate for Barron

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:12 pm EST

So dumb throwing Barron into the Copp trade.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:12 pm EST

Rangers looking lost…Need to play more physical….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:10 pm EST

Like last night, Rangers way to loose defensively that period...You fall in love with your offense, that can happen...Shape it up....HALAK was good

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:08 pm EST

Rf4L: Make that 2 goals and an assist now in the 3rd for Othmann. SO 6 G in 5 games...kids having a start....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:06 pm EST

Gauthier scores!!!!

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:05 pm EST

Othmann with a goal and an assist after 2 periods tonight meaning he’s 5 5 and 10 in 4 and 2/3s games so far.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:01 pm EST

Rangers just a little slower and sloppy in this one….Too many good chances given up but Halak had been good…Goal wouldn’t have been if icing was called on Jets….Horrible penalty call on Panarin….That was no slash….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:00 pm EST

We knew they were gonna come out hard, home opener and all,and the first 10 mins we had to withstand, like most games on the road anyway. And our 3rd game in 4 nights..... they scored at 9:31...I mean really. Halak was steady...vesey finishes hits checkck all over the ice....Zbad is soooooooooo smart on both sides of the puck, he makes me smile. :). Now we either battle up hill for the remainder or pick up the slack. this 2nd period will tell the tale.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:57 pm EST

Here is something. Every Ranger that took a draw is at least 50% at the dot. This is game 3, and they are still doing well on face-offs. I wonder what changed...its not jsut adding a couple new guys, Chytil is 4 and 2 as well. Everyone seems to be better.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:52 pm EST

The Jets colour guy has been over the top with his Jets stroking doll. He’s sickly sweet and I get the impression if the Rangers pop a few in quickly he’ll literally cry.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:48 pm EST

Jets are liek the Canes...they are a chaos team. They somehow thrive when things are not structured at all at least offensively. Its hard to defend that, but when things go right for the defending team the chaos team can be up a creek.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:46 pm EST

Cnparda: I think he was trying to shot pass that, looking for a redirection or a take and shoot type thing. I know can shoot harder than that...would have been better had he not tried to be fancy...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:45 pm EST

Cnparda: Add to that their home opener. Teams always have a bit of extra energy when they open their building for the season.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:45 pm EST

HAJEK may have the slowest shot in the NHL.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:44 pm EST

Jets getting out of their zone much too easy.

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:43 pm EST

Rangers make some beautiful plays and force get saves....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:36 pm EST

Dumb scheduling by NHL. We have 3 games in 4 days vs the other teams FIRST game. I’m hoping we can suck it up tonight.

Tom427

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:34 pm EST

Winnipeg is dictating the play but it should be expected 3rd game in 4 nights and this is their 1st game. Just gotta stay the course and win on the PP.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:32 pm EST

Rangers sloppy.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:29 pm EST

Last year I lost MSG in my area so I got the Hulu bundle that has ESPN plus on it. I could watch every game. Now tonight’s game is blacked out on ESPN plus? It makes no sense. Cable companies make me sick.

Shonuff

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:28 pm EST

Cnp. Yes and requested a trade and said to the Rangers only because his fiance was interning in a NYC hospital.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:27 pm EST

Taht was a weak ass call for slashing....gus slash harder than that 4 or 5 times per shift...

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:25 pm EST

TROUBA is being booed because he didn’t want to sign a long term contract in Winny.

Cnparda

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:24 pm EST

Watching the Jets feed. No. Nosendick banality to endure!!!

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:23 pm EST

I get booing a player that demands a trade or leaves as a UFA...but booing a guy that was traded? I dont get it.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:06 pm EST

Gerber baby dickaletti catching up to nosen’s hairline

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:00 pm EST

Good to hear on Cuylle….Wasn’t impressed with his preseason as much as others…Good size but has a ways to go handling the puck from what I saw….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:57 pm EST

Lb must be a double agent reporting back to the coach what’s being said on the wall by some.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:35 pm EST

Now he draws a penalty. Cuylle having a hell of an opening night....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:32 pm EST

Cuylle also with gaol to tie the game up 1-1...Jbro with a nice little pass for an open net tap in.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:26 pm EST

They need to get everyone not he roster in a game early here. Its a back to back night. I woudlnt be shocked if the coaches hadn't thought they woudl do this anyway...UNLESS Jones had a hell of night last night, or another guy was injured or something so jsut held onto it until they knew the details of the day.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:25 pm EST

https://twitter.com/AdamZHerman/status/1581062580713291777?s=20&t=6ZYSE-Y43srLZOvbJR04Bg Cuylle saying hello....

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:25 pm EST

Pack s first game of the season going right now. They have Rueschhoff and Rempe on a line together. Thats two guys listed at 6'7" and about 210. Those stats are old though...Rueschhoff I heard was closer to 230 and Rempe is closer to 240...and Rempes last measurements here in Seattle were 6'9" and 238. Either way...thats a couple fo big boys on the same line LOL. Who would want to go out and battle those guys down low?

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:20 pm EST

Sorry legs didn’t your post….Halak is also important….Hopefully he plays well….

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 6:19 pm EST

Agree on giving Jones a chance….He deserves it and yes he will make mistakes but this is part of development…Playing Hajek is also fine and I am sure he will be needed at some point….As mentioned plenty of time before playoffs….Is Igor in net tonight?…

PJ

Fri Oct 14 2022 5:22 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·20mLibor Hajek is in for Zac Jones, #NYR coach Gerard Gallant said.6412889Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·22mJaroslav Halak in net tonight for #NYR vs. Jets. No Sammy Blais, per Gerard Gallant. “I’m being cautious,” the coach said.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 4:14 pm EST

It was nice to see zucchini still playing at a high level, just looking a little older. He was a good Nyr.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 4:12 pm EST

Reality is you need a good gm with a good coach to put together players to make a roster into a team.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:59 pm EST

andrei: i will make one amendment to your take about not needing to trade kids for picks. I will say that if its clear a kid wont have room, trade them for picks. They not be high picks, becsaue they wont be kids high on the depth chart. Take Hunter Skinner for instance. Decent young player, not a lot of certainty in his future, but he may bring back a mid round pick or Grubbe, who appears to be falling down the prospect list for the Rangers. Hell even Rempe if he doesnt show he will take a 4th line C spot in the next season you can flip him for a late round pick. These kids are replaceable with other kids int he system that will need room to develop. And then some not so kids liek Gauthier and Gettinger....whiel the later has been a good solider in Hartford, someone else can fill that role, and he might being back a mid round pick, or a late pick...a picks are picks as we have seen. Eventually those guys will leave for nothing. But as for higher level prospects, no, you dont trade those just to get picks. Its not where this team is right now.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:58 pm EST

STEVIE - Hopefully we are rewarded with a few REAVES- DESLAURIERS fights when we play Philly (not that McEwen punk!)..One of the few I have seen beat Reaves

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:56 pm EST

Andrei - I don't remember anybody on here wanting MILLER traded last year..The only "negative" I can remember is that some thought he was rushed and tailed off his first year (me!) and that some people had him in the conversation of which one of young D to be traded (not me!)...It ended up being LUNDKVIST...Will another young D-man eventually be traded? I don't think so at least until they find out what they truly have in JONES and ROBERTSON..Obviously, I'm not including LIBOR the red headed step son...

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:49 pm EST

td: If Torts wins about 110 of his next 250 games he will match Ruff for wins in the same number of games. Now he will likely end up winning a bit more than that, so he will end up slightly ahead with the same number of games coached. But still it will be close, and he only started 1 year after Ruff at the NHL level. You cant just say a coach is bad when he is one of the winningest coaches in NHL history. The Devils are a team that was well below competitive levels roster wise. NO coach would get much more out of them. Last time Ruff coached a decent team? He had 40, 41 and 50 win seasons, that was with the Stars. He has coached teams to a below .500 record 5 times prior tooth's year, 3 of them recent (with crap teams) So twice in 17 years prior to that. Sorry. He can coach....if he has players. Yeah, he struggles to get more out of less...he isnt Bowman, or even Torts who seems to get more from less, but not that much more. This devils team will be as good as the players, not the coach. This team with a GREAT coach may get a handful of points more than Ruff will get them....when they are a cup contender player wise, Ruff woudl be capable of coaching them to the top of the NHL standings. Now if you want to debate his quality in the post season? Sure. He seems to struggle to get the most out of his teams there, save a couple of seasons. But regular season? He is more than capable of getting a team good results...if they are capable of good results.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:43 pm EST

“The right winger hadn’t been in a fight since March 19 against Tampa Bay Lightning star Pat Maroon, according to Hockey Fights. Reaves was voted the winner of that brawl. He was only involved in three fights last season.”

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:42 pm EST

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rangers-ryan-reaves-brawls-wilds-marcus-foligno-points-bicep-fight-strong

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:33 pm EST

Wild, that's insane Rangers base talking. Instant gratification. If somehow a player does not "meet their" expectation, something must be done immediately to quench that desire. People wanted Miller to be traded last year, when he was getting his feet wet at the begging of the season. Some were talking about how much Rangers screwed up by drafting Lafr and that Rangers need to shop him right the way to recoup what ever value he had remaining. Before then Trouba needed to be traded. Never ending circus.

andrei

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:26 pm EST

mf, i get the need to restock pipeline when it were Rangers, say 5-7 years ago. But now? Rangers have more then enough prospects coming up that the need to re-stock is none existent. As long as Rangers continue drafting well, that won't be a problem for many years to come. There is no need to trade Jones, or any other kid to "get" more picks.

andrei

Fri Oct 14 2022 3:17 pm EST

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tdchi

Fri Oct 14 2022 2:18 pm EST

Drew… Sorry to hear about your IBS. They say adding more fiber to your diet helps. At least that’s what I’m told :)

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 14 2022 2:15 pm EST

Wildcard - Mark my words: The best the Devils will EVER do with Lindy RUFF as coach is they'll tread water. They may be able to squeak out a +.500 season, and if that's enough to score a PO spot? OK. But he is a fantastically bad coach. And while I don't think they have a weak team, they simply don't have the soldiers to cover up for his glaring shortcomings in the way that the Rangers did with QUINN, and quite frankly, him...as any one who casually reads this wall will tell you, I ain't a TORTORELLA fan...but at least he puts together some semblance of a defensive structure. I seriously don't know what RUFF does out there other than look stupid. The confluence of him and QUINN was the second worst Ranger coaching era I can remember this century, the first being Ron BLOW.

tdchi

Fri Oct 14 2022 1:26 pm EST

Wild: MSL wasn't a D'man. The battles between OV & Marc Staal come to mind, man did they ever battle over the years and will still face each other this season, Staal is on the Panthers. It doesn't take much imagination to envision K'andre Miller being the size of Hedman in 5-10 years, Jones, no. I just don't see it in Jones, jmo naturally

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 1:02 pm EST

step: Agreed but then again, I have a huge issue in general on the way Hajek has been treated since being prompted to the big club. It's reprehensible to me.

rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 12:40 pm EST

Tonight, i would be disappointed if GG did not play Hajek on the back to back. He deserves to have the opportunity to go head to head with Jones to see who is best for team moving forward. Jones has not warranted the position being handed to him. And i feel a semi platoon between the two will keep both sharp. May the best man win the playoff push.

Stepunmytoe

Fri Oct 14 2022 12:21 pm EST

TOP - I won't speak for "most people" on here but my take on Jones is that until recently I wasn't crazy about his D/lack of strength and the way he roamed too much....But, I have liked what I have seen the first two games.espcially defensively and the way he has been competing....He is ready for the NHL, I am just not sure if he is the ideal partner for SCHNEIDER, especially for later in the season..but plenty of time to develop as the season goes along..We'll see

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 12:10 pm EST

mf: Well...10 to 1 there was someone saying the same things about MSL, and many others out there. How about we give the man a chance? I am all for getting someone to back him up, but long before the playoffs come around we will know if he can handle a heavy game. I just think that this idea that he cant handle it is based on nothing other than assuming because he is under 200 pounds that his body is weak.

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 12:09 pm EST

IMO Kakko is going to beat his man & or draw double coverage and or draw a defender out of position and find an open lane, and it will define his career. Ecstatic that he's a NY Ranger. :-)

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 12:04 pm EST

WildCard: you see, you're wrong again. Jones may be small, but he's not potatoes! .... Seriosly, do we want a guy of Jone's stature come playoff time? It's fuggin war, can Jones tolerate what Lindgren puts himself through? We have already been worrying about Lindgren's durability based on the game he plays, even if Jones doesn't play a Lindgren style of game, playoff hockey will eventually force "that" game on the player. My interest in trading Jones is to restock the draft-picks pipeline, same for trading HAJEK, IMO we can plug the LHS D with a Vet. And somewhere in the pipeline there's, "Robertson."

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 11:57 am EST

Kaako: The power move he did against PITT in the playoffs that resulted in a key goal (later called off because of goalie interference) was the biggest eye opener to me that Kaako is willing to take the puck to the net.... last night's move was so perfect on every level

schneidw

Fri Oct 14 2022 11:57 am EST

Not sure what Kelly’s issues are with hijack, but hopefully he gets a chance over Jones for more than a few games this season. Other than that so far so good, 80 games to go. Next big issue will be crabby when he’s cleared to play.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 11:40 am EST

topovski: Dont forget, as recently as last season, folks were calling for Kakko to be traded because it was "clear" that he was going to be worth less and less over time and the Rangers should use his value to get a player that can play in the top 6 and help the team....so peopel wanting Jones gone...well...thats small potatoes. LOL

Wildcard

Fri Oct 14 2022 11:25 am EST

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Dont understand why most of people here want to get rid of Jones. Yes, he makes an occasional mistake, but so does our captain. Jones is way ahead in a development of a defender who usually take a while to develop. This kid has not played 15 games in the nhl - give him a break.

topovski

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:56 am EST

Some real positives from both games played so far. KK and Laf showing so much more, the goal by KK was nice and the way he fearlessly went into the crease area shows his maturing. The 2 passes for goals by Laf were skills usually left to the highly skilled, which hopefully he is on his way to becoming. Miller is turning into one of the best d-men in the league. Trocheck is going to be an upgrade on Strome . Like the play of Jones but I wish he was bigger. Love the look of this team , I know it’s early but hey, better to be 2-0 than 0-2

Caperanger

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:55 am EST

s/b: "I was meh"

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:55 am EST

Very nice, very nice, a little time, patience, and cautious optimism for the top two lines as constructed. The 3rd & 4th lines will sort themselves out. I was not meh & disinterested on the Vesey signing but now looking at his addition as a much-needed depth signing. Once we get BLAIS back healthy and inserted in the bottom 6, the two bottom lines should take another step in sorting themselves out..... 3rd pair LHS D'man needs some attention, and that's one of the easiest roster positions to fill, therefore it should continue to be Cap-Friendly. What can we get for HAJAK & or JONES on the open market in terms of draft picks? "Anybody here for coaxing YANDLE out of retirement to pair up with SCHNEIDER?" I bet Yandle could be in game shape by Thanksgiving or sooner. Vet presence, very coachable, has an offensive component to his game, can be moved up in case of injury, cap friendly, and just turned 26 in September... Just some food for thought.

mf

Fri Oct 14 2022 10:12 am EST

Missed the game last night. Loving the highlights. Laffy and Kakko stepping up nicely in their elevated roles. Bread has been extraordinary and the whole forward group looks much better balanced with Kravtsov out. Special nod to reaves making cologne tap out in that fight. Great start. The future is bright. One game at a time. LGR!!

DCIGolfer

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:54 am EST

A lot of good things and signs but I, at least, need to put the breaks on a bit...The top two lines are as they should be and The talent and skill was obvious last night but it was a very loose game defensively and IGOR needed to be sharp...Also gotta remember that this is early season ho hum hockey..not PO wars..OTOH, Reaves finally did his thing and the Rangers often came to the aid of their goalie..All great signs.and a great start but a long road ahead

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 9:02 am EST

My main thought after watching this game, was please say NO to Kane at the deadline. As I've said many times, too cost/cap prohibitive and for a 1 year rental, with the way these two lines have started out....simply not needed. Of course, the hope is these younger kids continue to grow/develop their chemistry w/ their linemates. Keep the the 2 #1's and hope Michkov drops (KHL 3 year contract commintment) and trade them to move up if so, or draft two very very good players in the deepest draft since 2003. They'll need those entry level contracts in short order WITHOUT Kane!!! Sign K'Andre and Laf long-term. They may have waited one year too long already but that's priority #1 this off-season. Kreider/Troubs will ultimately have to be moved in 3/4 years when restrictions come off their respective contracts. Have some foresight here Drury...you have a killer prospect in B.Othmann coming next year too on an entry-level contract. I have no doubt they'll need to bolster the roster w/ some 3rd/4th line toughness/skill and 3rd line D depth as well, but holding onto those 2 #1's is paramount in this draft for creating a franchise type run....not a 1-3 year window. As for the game last night, what a game. Key, Laff, and KK look they are starting to take the next step and really fit in well on those lines. What an unbelievable goal by KK! Traverse City 2.0. Haven't seen the team come out on fire for a season like this in a loooooong time! The playoffs have something to do with that for sure. Hopefully they can keep it going tonight and they don't get caught in the "trap" game. LGR

NCRanger

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:41 am EST

Steve/RF4L - I'll never stop bitching! but I was pretty positive last year..One of the few that in the middle of the year had the Rangers, with a few pickups, going for a much needed Long PO run last year that was important for the kiddies and team development...This year is the next step...

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:15 am EST

RF4L - I am dying. I logged in this AM wondering if anyone was going to acknowledge the results from the IBS Center.

DREW

Fri Oct 14 2022 8:09 am EST

RF4L - Yes, and see how important the experience of last year's LONG PO has been to not just to the kids but the entire team...They know they are good and have more confidence, but also know they have to do so many more things to get better to win the CUP....which is now a realistic goal....It takes a mix of a lot of things..and a GM to pull all the things together...I'm sure there is still 1 or 2 players that need to be added--at the cost of draft picks..:)

Hospo

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:42 am EST

Yeah Hospo - you've got me a little worried about you. BTW, see why it's important to keep your picks and draft high when you can?!?

rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:41 am EST

Checked out some goals elsewhere last night. The Devils outshot the Flyers by a big margin but lost due from what I see something new to them: Shoddy netminding! Blackwood let in 4 goals on 24 shots and 2 of them were weak. LOLOL. Nils got a lone assist in Dallas's 4 1 win but it was a beauty touch pass in front of the crease so Marchment had a basically a tap-in. DREW's favourite team started the year off in fine fashion: A loss!

rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:41 am EST

HOSPO I have never seen you more positive! :) I think the biggest positive besides the kids all playing well is the face off wins amazing at the draws controlling puck makes a huge difference.

Steve443c10

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:40 am EST

Last year’s playoffs helped most of the kids to be better this year.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:25 am EST

That Kakko goal, circling the net and the slot was something we saw in world junior tournament, good to see his and Lafreniere’s confidence at these levels. The time is now for them.

Puckyou

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:21 am EST

That crosscheck to KK’s face by Dumber on KK’s goal was vicious and should have been a match penalty.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 14 2022 7:01 am EST

“ Lafreniere recorded the first multi-assist performance of his NHL career …”…“I mean, I still got to work hard and there’s nothing confirmed,” Lafreniere said after the win. “Obviously, I want to play with them. I think they’re real good players. I got to keep working on my game on the right side and try to get better.”

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:30 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/alexis-lafreniere-propels-rangers-past-wild/

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:19 pm EST

Ataboy Reeves tats more like it

vcp1994

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:03 pm EST

Just finished watching the last period...Some damn good things....The top 2 lines jelling and loaded with talent....CHYTL with a nice goal from the dirty area...And, my lord, KK with a goal like he scored in Traverse City in his first game against little kiddies..toying with the WILD and then going to the net with authority..Have always mentioned him as a Poor man's JAGR..maybe in time...And, then, bomp..bomp..bomp. You don't mess around with RYAN! Way to put them in their place Reavo!!!..And we still got BLAIS coming back!!! Awesome stuff

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:35 pm EST

JFC.... I get it, but I would still say "no thanks." :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:31 pm EST

Rhet- Reavo called him out…he can’t back out there. Man, Reaves hit him with a couple of haymakers…he was game to start but then Reaves manhandled him

JFC31

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:29 pm EST

Kakko looked like Jagr on that goal! Valliquette very happy with him & Laf seizing the opportunities they’ve been given…

JFC31

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:18 pm EST

I don't get why anyone would willingly want to fight REEVES.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:17 pm EST

COMark: You jest...but Boldy had a couple really nice players there. Had he not been hyper patient with the puck he shoots it into Igor both times. Those were very good plays to take advantage of a couple mistakes by the Rangers defensively. They need to clean that sort of stuff up. But teams do tend to relax a bit when they are up by 4 goals. Not an excuse, but just a reality.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:12 pm EST

Kakko's goal reminds one of the one he scored in that rookie tournament in 2019 ....also against the Wild ....

sjw

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:03 pm EST

Tonight's highlights in 8:20 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLrnX1FKV5M

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:02 pm EST

Well I had a brilliant, long post and then PHhhfft. Lost to the either! LOL. Anyway, nice win where the Rangers are showing their maturity in beating a team no matter how they tried to play it. Protected each other when it got nasty and showed Minni they can play even nastier if needed. There definitely was some sloppiness and not so crisp passing at times but they never seemed to get rattled or off their game even when Minnesota scored a couple. In contrast, The Wild definitely lost their composure. Some really nice plays sprinkled in as well! KAKKO!!

NYStranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:58 pm EST

I have nothing to complain about. Good Night all

Jake0104

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:56 pm EST

Kreiders first goal tonight: https://www.espn.com/nhl/game?gameId=401458603

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:51 pm EST

Geez, almost forgot to mention Kakko's brilliant goal.Way to go kid.

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:50 pm EST

Pretty impressive and all around great win. Can’t fault the Zucc PP, 2 sloppy D coverage against Matt “the great” Baldy, but a lot of contributions. Kreider sets the tone and maybe he wasn’t a fluke. Fox and Panarin magic. Kakko dazzles. Key looks amazing. The Grim Reaves delivers frontier justice with hammer fists. Just awesome!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:50 pm EST

That's so funny..when they came back after the break from the fight ,they had to show highlights from his last year's fights...too funny !......I like this "banging the crease " Rangers...does cause some bloody noses as you may have noticed but stuff that can easily be cleaned up after the game .

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:49 pm EST

Kaapo Kakko Goal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wurnDwGTsjc

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:49 pm EST

What an odd thing...the AVS who scored onto eir first shot tonight...are at the 16 min mark of the 2nd period...down 2-1 against the Flames...with 4 shots on net...yup..they have taken 4 shots in a little over period of hockey...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:48 pm EST

MF.... What will we do for the other 40 games he misses? :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:47 pm EST

SO Trocheck ended up 36% (5 of 14) at the dot, Zib 50% (13 of 26) , Chytil 55% (6 of 11), Carpenter 75% (3 of 4), Goody 67% (2 of 3). As a team they were 50% (29 of 58). Back to back games where the team overall has done well.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:46 pm EST

Cnparda: if we can get a healthy Sammy Blais back, that should help with the grit you call for, and our depth keeps getting deeper.

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:45 pm EST

Shazam’s pads are almost up to his waist. Are they legal ?

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:43 pm EST

They remind me of Phi Rizzuto in his latter days as a broadcaster were later in the game, all he would talk about is avoiding the after game traffic so he could get across the bridge quickly. He would go on and on about it. That's what Sam and Joe are reminding me of.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:41 pm EST

Rangers start out the season outscoring their opponents 10-4 in 2 games....I now that wont last...but damn...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:39 pm EST

Goodrow and Carpenter on the PP.... Is that the new PP3? :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:39 pm EST

How did that last chance not go in? It went under his pad and disappeared...his pad was off the ice?

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:38 pm EST

@NYPaingerspod·17sStrome has given his powers to Carpenter

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:38 pm EST

These idiots have stop calling the game. OMG.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:37 pm EST

@MatthewFairburn·2mSabres forward J.J. Peterka with the most human and reasonable reaction to his first NHL goal: “Just pure joy. I was like, ‘Holy fuck.’ I was so excited. I don’t know, just speechless.”

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:36 pm EST

Chytil getting his stick up and grinning at the opposition...love to see it....

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:35 pm EST

Babbling idiots didn’t notice Flurry leave. Geeesh

Rf4L

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:35 pm EST

Rangers looking like a complete team here, wish we had a bit more grit but hard to argue with the team game they are playing.

Cnparda

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:32 pm EST

But that drag by Miller...a thing of beauty...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:32 pm EST

K'Andre! SWEET!

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:31 pm EST

Oh Kreider...too bad for Key with the fam in a attendance.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:31 pm EST

MILLER!!!!!

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:31 pm EST

Foligno was sitting in the box trying to figure which part of his head hurt the most

Caperanger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:31 pm EST

Rhet/Wild: My biggest issue w Jones is his outlet passes are not crisp and tight... more like prayers by flip attempts at dumping the puck out of the zone and several have been intercepted and led ot chances... Its early and I am not making judgement, just don't see the upside as I mentioned....

schneidw

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:30 pm EST

Thatta boy Reavo....

tradestar28

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:29 pm EST

Wild... I should have said they should wear visors like Staal wears. His make it's so you can't get a stick in there (very hard to). You definitely can't have a puck almost suck your eyeball out.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:29 pm EST

Wild have lost their composure completely here....

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:28 pm EST

Let's hope that puts an end to those questions about Reaves !!!!

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

That’s why you need him.

NV94

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

Good job RR.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

Reaves can throw....damn...thats scary...I couldn't imagine facing him...no wonder most try to avoid it...full credit to Foligno...takes guts. (not that Reaves needs no guts to get into that)

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

Reavo! Destroyed him!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

Reavo doing his job. Well done.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:27 pm EST

Reavo !!!

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:24 pm EST

Schneidw... I don't know that Jones is popular, but he's played well since the season started (sans the last goal). He had his good moments and bad in the preseason but has been a much more solid defenseman since the start of the regular. JMO, of course.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:21 pm EST

schneidw: That was his fist big mistake since camp opened...I dont see you saying the Fox/Lindgren pair is a liability after the they screwed up...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:21 pm EST

Rhet he does wear one...and every player they enters the NHL after a certain date is required to.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:17 pm EST

Foligno that CuntXor left his feet

tradestar28

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:17 pm EST

Andrei- Lol. The Panarin haters will never be satisfied. I think the mantra was he was an 82 game player not a 16 game player. Of course completely forgetting you need to win more games in the regular season to get to the playoffs. And completely forgetting the attention he draws in the playoffs!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:17 pm EST

Yeah, Miller needs to wear a visor. Every player in the NHL should wear a visor. Ask Marc Staal.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:17 pm EST

Kakko………wow. Other than the shoddy D this period this has been a good performance.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:16 pm EST

JONES: Rough game... I get he is popular but I just don't see the upside that other NYRs fans do... Liability out there....

schneidw

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:15 pm EST

Sick goal by Kappo.

andrei

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:14 pm EST

Schneider and Jones got puck happy there...one of them should have taken the late man...gotta trust Igor to take the shooter if one D cant get to him..but both cant go after the one guy...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:14 pm EST

The two kid defensemen got undressed there. Learning experience.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:13 pm EST

WTF. Run Foligno and Dumber

Rf4L

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:12 pm EST

OUCH! Thats a nasty gash on Millers face there...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:12 pm EST

Kappo looked like a man against 6th graders. Holy shit

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:12 pm EST

Wow , just wow!!!

Caperanger

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

Where the hell did this guy come from?

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

Holy Schnikes! Kakko!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

KAKKO sighting, what a goal!

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

Ash there he is!

Tom427

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

JFC- I agree that Laffy should have been there from the beginning. But to be fair to Kravt, he only had one game with that line intact (the crappy 5th pre-season game). His first two games were with different line mates. And his second game with Panarin lasted 2 shifts. And Laffy has always been open to playing RW, but until this year, he hasn’t looked that comfortable on the RW. I think for the fans it’s easy to think it’s obvious what the lineup should be, but I’m trusting what Gallant does.

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

OH MY GOODNESS!! Kakko

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:11 pm EST

Holy kaapo

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:10 pm EST

That's why we haven't seen the fourth line much tonight.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:10 pm EST

Rangers got lazy there...and thats from Fox and Lindgren....

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:10 pm EST

Ye, trade Panerin because he so soft… Trade Panerin because he is a turn over machine.

andrei

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:09 pm EST

Crabby krappy rest up and get used to watching games on tv and from the stands

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:09 pm EST

Bread now with 5 points in just under 2 games. Silly start...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:08 pm EST

Laf need to learn to get the shot off quicker...he delayed just a tad too long there...not that it ended badly for the Rangers...but still...he will get it eventually...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:07 pm EST

TROCHECK!

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:07 pm EST

Panarin making it look easy...and very nice shot from Trocheck...my goodness...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:07 pm EST

Throatcheck

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:06 pm EST

COMark: And its not like Miller is always Mr Nice Guy...but yeah...its nice that there will always be at least one guy with a bit of nasty in them out there on the back end.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:03 pm EST

From Dan Rosen at the Islanders game:………….. Kiss cam time and a guy takes off his shirt and written on his chest is "PLZ SAY YES YES YES." He gets down on one knee and proposes. Camera cuts away. But I could see them from the press box. The girl got up and left. She flat out left. And the Panthers scored. Can't make it up.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:02 pm EST

Step: I didn't see your post, but I agree with you :-)

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:01 pm EST

Mf was that a strong wind that knocked me chypil down after he scored?

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:01 pm EST

What I love about our D is we always have 1 of Trouba- Lindgren or Schneider on the ice. Those guys (Schneider as he gets older/stronger) are not fun to play against!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:53 pm EST

Newf- yeah, when do we play Anaheim, lol!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:53 pm EST

Newf- yeah, when do we play Anaheim, lol!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:51 pm EST

Thanks Zucc for proving once again the league rule that ex-Rangers must score on us :).....I do believe that Penalty Killing display will qualify as the TSN Turning Point......and man, you gotta love Trouba and Lindgren..just gotta !

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:51 pm EST

Cnparda: Its only every once in a while that you see his size hamper him.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:51 pm EST

MF: i said the same thing. couldnt believe Cheetos was still standing there for the rebound

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:50 pm EST

The Devils had a lot of talk bout having a strong season, fighting for a playoff spot...starting out losing 5-2 to the Flyers is not a good way to put actions behind those words...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:50 pm EST

On the positive, I was worried about JONES but he looks just fine out there against a heavy team.

Cnparda

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:49 pm EST

HARTMAN is going to hate looking at the video tomorrow- the dude is having a terrible night.

Cnparda

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:47 pm EST

Chytil looks like he finally filled out his frame, kudos to him for battling in the paint

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:47 pm EST

ERIKSSON EK is the guy killing Zib tonight...keeping Zib at 40% at the dot. Zib only 5 for 13 again him at 38%.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:45 pm EST

Tom- Kakko doesn’t PK much, especially 5-3.

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:45 pm EST

SO Nils has a PP assist tonight not he second goal of the season for the Stars. I am happy for the kid, he wouldn't have gotten PP time in NY, and for good reason....but in Dallas he is on the first unit I think. I think the Rangers are going to get that 3rd rather than the 4th, because I think he gets that 50 whatever points he needs to get over two seasons.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:42 pm EST

5 on 3 notwithstanding, I am very happy that Kreider took care of Ericsson Ek. They cannot lake opponents take shots at Igor.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:40 pm EST

Dont look now...but the Rangers have three 5v5 goals tonight...and four in two games. And of their 7 goals in two games only two are PP goals.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:40 pm EST

PANARIN: Bread is a different player so far this year..... no more sloppy dangerous cross ice passes being intercepted and turned into odd man rushes... Panarin is holding the puck and making safer passes.. its unreal to watch him skating around defenders....

schneidw

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:39 pm EST

Rangers have started this season with a veteran attitude…they want more than they got last season. Panarin is playing like a man possessed. Chytil looks tougher, Laf & Kakko doing great, Zib flashing sharp,from the opening drop, Shesty is Shesty…the window is WIDE OPEN and they know it!

JFC31

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:35 pm EST

Is there an issue with Kappo? Haven’t seen him lately.

Tom427

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:35 pm EST

Nice.Chytil looking stronger than I have ever seen...how many times have we seen him surviving long enough to get a rebound in that close before?

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:35 pm EST

Beautiful movement by FOX

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:35 pm EST

CHEEEEEEEETTTTTTOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:34 pm EST

Panarin is making defenders look absolutely silly with his moves tonight.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:32 pm EST

SO the Rgners have now taken a "lead" on draws with 55%. Only Zib is below 50% on the team 6 wins 7 losses for 46%. Thats not a bad number either...might be just below that now with that draw that I think is considered a loss for him.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:29 pm EST

Agreed.... Mess around and find out.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:27 pm EST

Kreider did exactly what he should have after the slash of Shesty’. Idiot on twitter said it wasn’t “smart” but that’s what we need when someone messed with our goalie. Some still think Kreider too soft, but I’m not one of them.

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:25 pm EST

HUGE

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:23 pm EST

Good for the Rangers PKers for taking no shit there!

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:22 pm EST

The thing I hate is that if you TOUCH the glove of a player with the puck with your stick its a penalty...but you can hack, shove, and otherwise manipulate the glove of the goalie and play on. The NHL needs to fix that. IF you cant use your stick against a glove...you cant...and now the ref is explaining how its OK that Igor can ever the puck and they can hack at him and spear him...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:22 pm EST

I love LINDGREN.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:20 pm EST

The NHL is all about trying to make games more competitive, no matter how much they have to cheat to do it :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:20 pm EST

No slash to SHERKY's hands? REfs playing too big of a role here

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:19 pm EST

oops.um yea. crosscheck it was. got him good at least

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:19 pm EST

Mess around and find out.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:18 pm EST

Now the ref is allowing guys to hack the goalie...and cal the guy who pushed him off...Refs are being influenced by the crowd...they should be ashamed of themselves....absolutly unprofessional at every level...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:18 pm EST

are you fucking kidding me with this call ??

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:18 pm EST

OMG that was a bad call..Either event, WILD coming on alot of speed and offense in this game

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:18 pm EST

From what I’ve heard just over 1 1/2 periods, their PA might be most annoying in the league.

Tom427

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:17 pm EST

what a shoot call...almsot as bad as the "hook" against Jones who had all stick on stick...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:17 pm EST

That looked like BS. Let's see the replay

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:16 pm EST

WOW, Minnesota really needs a new goal song. I love "Shout" but not for that.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:15 pm EST

ZUCC on the PP

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:14 pm EST

JFC: "dobethibg" looks like something I woudl end up posting LOL

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:11 pm EST

The Rangers skill level is high and I am loving the top 2 lines.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:09 pm EST

Look at what Laf is doing & compare that to Krav’s performance. That should have been Laf’s spot from the get-go. There’s no going back after this AFAIAC….Krav has lost his spot. If Laf gets put back to the 3rd line when Krav comes back, dobethibg is rotten in the state of Denmark

JFC31

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:07 pm EST

Loving LAFFY and the 2nd line...There is some talent on that top six and some strength too....And even in a 3-0 game, SHERKY doing his thing big time!......CM - I noticed those moving ads the other night..bug the hell out of me...yeah, I'm old too!

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:03 pm EST

“For me, left wing, right wing, I’m ready to play wherever with whoever,” Lafrenière told Staple. “Every line you’re on you’re playing with skilled players. Wherever I am next season, I’ll be ready.”Alexis even added that he’s already working on being better at right wing this offseason.“Just some small details, working on the right side of the ice, breakouts, zone entries, stuff like that,” he noted. “It’s details but if you get more comfortable doing it you help yourself when it comes time to do that.“

JFC31

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:02 pm EST

Trocheck looks like he's champing at the bit to get back on the ice.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:01 pm EST

Newf- My wife can’t stand the moving ads! I think they should not move during play, but it could just be I’m too old. The kids don’t seem to mind ,lol! But somehow my feed is better. I still feel like the MN arena is a freakin’ cave!

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:51 pm EST

Colorado....I know but what's bugging me even more is those stupid sign changing boards ,while the play is on even ,geez. The only saving grace on my feed is the score on the bottom of the screen in stead of up top.

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:49 pm EST

as that fat meatball phuck Carp would say......."good period?"

tradestar28

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:48 pm EST

Rhet: I was about to say the Wild were playing like they were just trying to survive until the buzzer....and they failed to.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:48 pm EST

Oh that nice lttle, suttle wait by Panarin,a real goalie killer .

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:47 pm EST

Oh damn auto correct. that should have said " Bread didn't want to go zero for on goals" in reference to my he could get 100 points just making those insane passes

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:45 pm EST

Wild-my wild to English translator broke- no idea what you are saying! Lol

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:43 pm EST

I was about to say that Minnesota was lucky to only be down 2-0 in this game.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:43 pm EST

Well Bread find want to go zero for in goals...LOL

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:42 pm EST

BREAD is feeling it.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:42 pm EST

Laffy on fire !!!!

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:37 pm EST

That second line is look like its starting to gel...and the top lien is already looking very good from the first puck drop this season...My goodness. When Krav comes back put him with Chytil and Blais? Maybe Chytila nd Goodrow (face-off help) and the 4th with Blais, Carpenter and Reaves...get that 3rd line going and let the 4th lien do 4th line things. YIKES...oh to dream....

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:35 pm EST

LAF with the feed after a Panarin pass that was another special one even if shorter...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:35 pm EST

BEAUTY!

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:35 pm EST

stepunmytoe: I guess since he retired they figured they could safely call them again...LOL

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:34 pm EST

Zib buzzing with the puck tonight...not that he wasnt good in game 1, but damn...guy is confident to start this season.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:33 pm EST

Minnesota is getting away with some shit here.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:32 pm EST

Personally, I think he should've gotten a second penalty.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:32 pm EST

You will call a crosscheck during play...but wont give a guy a second penalty for hitting a guy after being called for tripping the same guy?

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:30 pm EST

been watching Chara crosscheck for 20 years without on damn call against him. He was the king of crosschecking

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:30 pm EST

Lindgren makes undisciplined play. Kaprizov was always gonna dive after Lindgren got mad. He got the PP for his team. Lindgren will be smarter next time.

E

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:29 pm EST

Refs are doing the "he was stronger it must be a penalty" thing again. They have decided to crack down on cross checking...but somehow the players never found out...I have watched a few games and in every game its happening....and once again the refs dont know what a cross check is...a cross check is with the stick...he clearly used his arm...so not a penalty...but across the NHL its happened this year so far...if your stick is in both hands that a just call it...even if its a clean hit.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:28 pm EST

Minnesota is such a heavy team mixed with some great skill. They should be one of the best in the west. Rangers are having a tough time skating the puck through the neutral zone and refuse to dump and chase. Feel like we have been through that before.

Cnparda

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:27 pm EST

I’m dizzy from the camera work, it’s dark and constantly fading into SD from HD. Minnesota broadcast is fine (but dark)

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:27 pm EST

This game looks a lot more like last season than the other night did.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:23 pm EST

Rhet: If Panarin scored zero goals this year, but keeps making perfect passes liek the one he just had to Zib...he will still have over 100 points...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:20 pm EST

CoMark... I'm watching it on my computer so I haven';t noticed too much :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:20 pm EST

That Kaprizov line sure throws the puck around.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:20 pm EST

I'm glad Kreider got that first one off his back, now let's do Panarin :)

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:19 pm EST

Is the feed for MSG in and out of HD for anyone else or am I just lucky?

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:18 pm EST

Much tougher save than SHESTY made it look.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:17 pm EST

Zib taking advantage of the fact that everyone expects the big shot from him off that Panarin pass...now the next PP they need to try to prepare for BOTH options...and thats just not realistic being a man down. His one timer along with Kreider's ability in front is what makes that so deadly.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:16 pm EST

Hard to complain about the PP

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:15 pm EST

More than one way to score a PP goal.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:15 pm EST

K man

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:13 pm EST

He's got an old school Mike Gartner/pornstache.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:11 pm EST

Rhet: The words they use is not an opinion. Literally that is a fact. the words they used, the words that are quoted, are quite literally a fact. You cant overcome it..so you are tryignt o say stupid shit like this...jsut becsaue you cant handle being wrong.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:10 pm EST

Not a big shock..but damn is Arizona living up to its expectations after its first period of the season. Out shot 16 to 4 and outscored 3 to zip against the PENs. Watched a few minutes of that period...absolutely boring hockey because it was liek there was only one team out there.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:09 pm EST

ummmm Sam is starting to sound like slojoe potato.

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:08 pm EST

Wild... Everything you say is your OPINION and nothing more. You're not buds with GG and you don't talk to him everyday. It's opinion. The problem is that you think that everything that comes out of your gob is spun gold and the only correct opinion. Moving on.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:59 pm EST

Hunt-Carpenter-Reaves: Yikes.

tdchi

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:58 pm EST

Rhet Its a god damn fact that I just said!! GG didnt contradict Laf...you are making it up in your own head! GG literally said he prefers LW...but also that Laf doest care and he will go out and play! Good lord! Yo are making a big deal outa of a forward with a preference of where he plays! EVERY FORWRD DOES!!! Chytil for instance prefers center...thats been talked about by him and the team. Kreider prefers LW...again...discussed. You dont think Kakko prefers RW over LW? Come on...move on...you are working awfully hard to find something to be upset with GG about here...there is no disconnect between GG and Laf...they are saying the same damn things!

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:50 pm EST

Wild... Are you paid to shill for the NYR's or do you just do it for free?

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:39 pm EST

Rhet: ON the medial stuff he ALWAYS says that its the info he has, and that right after games he doest talk to the medical staff right away and he will have more once he does. He ALWAYS makes its CLEAR that he is going off limited info. I am not sure what you are getting at with that...since once again..he NEVER SAID that Laf wasnt willing to go to the RW side...just that he prefers the LW side...and guess what...Laf has not said anything to suggest he doesnt have a preference...he says he doesnt care if it gets him top 6 minutes...what he has never said is that no matter where he is lined up, be it the 1st or 4th line that he is fine with the RW. So...for me that means top 6 he doesnt care, but he prefers the LW.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:35 pm EST

Wild.... You are talking about a head coach that gives his input about a guys medical condition after an apparent injury vs waiting to get input from the medical staff... Maybe GG runs purely on his impressions of situations and people..... At least that's my "impression" of him.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:31 pm EST

And CHMELAR with his first NCAA goal...assisted by BERARD.

tdchi

Thu Oct 13 2022 6:06 pm EST

Rhet: the only disconnect is between fans and reality. The Reality that we have NO CLUE what is said behind closed doors. Of cause LAf says he is willing to play on the RW side...GG also didnt contradict that...he said he PREFERS the LW side. I am sure he probably does. He probably prefers the LW side of the ice over the RW side. The doesnt mean that what GG said is wrong or contradictory to Laf saying he wants to play on the RW if it means he gets top 6 minutes.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 5:39 pm EST

Providence v. Clarkson tonight. BERARD on first line with fellow Ranger draft pick Jaroslav CHMELER. Centering the line, my boy Parker FORD, who the Rangers should be signing in six short months.

tdchi

Thu Oct 13 2022 5:14 pm EST

BTW: Also love the near immediate chemistry between Trocheck and Lafreniere. When this line really gets going, they will be tough to play against.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 5:12 pm EST

Does Gallant actually talk to Lafreniere? He has said since last season that he was willing to go to the right side because he wants to play in the top six. Where is the disconnect here?

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 13 2022 4:03 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·1h#NYR head coach Gerard Gallant on Alexis Lafrenière playing with Artemi Panarin and Vincent Trocheck:“We all know he prefers left wing, but he’s got to go to the right side and he’ll play well there and do his job.. Laf will adjust. He doesn’t care. He really doesn’t.”521350Mollie Walker

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 3:27 pm EST

COMark: Would not have been icing if it hit the post and came back the same direction since the post is at the line not over it.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 3:24 pm EST

Minnesota is a tough opponent with or without GREENWAY. He definitely adds a physical element to the mix...but man, that team, plus BOLDY and ROSSI. And now ADISEN on the back end. The only thing that is really an issue with them is that they have FLEURY in net and when he's off...man, is he ever off.

tdchi

Thu Oct 13 2022 2:20 pm EST

I wonder: If the puck hit the post and headed back towards the Rangers end (not into the corner like the actual shot) and the TB player stopped skating and a Ranger was closer, maybe that could have negated the icing?

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 13 2022 2:14 pm EST

I concurred the icing after a pipe hit rule. Last night it was called correctly. It is icing.

E

Thu Oct 13 2022 1:50 pm EST

Seems that they could not whistle the icing until the puck missed the net. I a, sure they all were watching and did not know if it was going in.

Bob

Thu Oct 13 2022 1:32 pm EST

Wildcard/Pete - The ref can basically call automatic icing...as someone mentioned, as soon as its clear the puck will cross the line. Maybe they whistled it assuming it was going wide. Still seems as though they should've changed the call and had the faceoff at center ice.

tdchi

Thu Oct 13 2022 1:14 pm EST

Minnesota tonight? from last year, I remember the WILD as being one of the teams that played a bit too big and heavy for the Rangers (before the deadline deals) especially with Greenway and Foligno...But no Greenway tonight (and no Blais for us) and not sure if the Wild have changed their MO to play a little faster..be interesting..

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:56 am EST

Stevie: I think the only reason they didnt blow it dead earlier was that it might have gone in...so they had to wait.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:54 am EST

Hitting the post is not a sog nor does it negate an icing. They are supposed to blow the whistle after the puck passes the faceoff circle unless someone is close enough to get to the puck to wave off the icing.

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:30 am EST

SO I just pulled up the NHL rulebook. There is no longer any mention of the puck going through the blue paint (used to be a thing) or hitting the goal post. The only mention is that deflecting off an official may nullify icing, but doesnt give details on that. Its all about who will be able to touch the puck first, and if its clear that the icing is called when the players reach the dots. IN th case of the near goal they have to wait until it crossed the goal line...and clearly the TBL player was the closest to it, hence icing.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:26 am EST

PETE: that’s a great question. As far as I know regardless of touching the pipe if it clears the line it is icing. As I think it should be. If for no other reason: player safety.

E

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:24 am EST

pete: I thought the same thing...have not looked into it yet...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:23 am EST

CHYTIL: I have been on the side of him not being as good a center as a wing. But the playoffs and the first game (along with preseason for what that matters) have showed I think he can handle 3rd line C, or he could be a top 6 wing. He didnt take a lot of draws in game 1, just 4, but he lost just 1. If he can get on a roll at the dot, and win somewhere around 50-52% for the year thats fine. Especially since there are now a couple centers that can win draws when needed. Trocheck took the most draws winning 10 of his 16, then Zib winning 9 of his 13, and then Goody winning 5 of 8. Carpenter also won 3 of 4. Seems GG also used Chytil only for Offensive zone draws, save one D zone draw, and that may not have been on purpose or may have been when the kid line was back together a bit there. The only center type thing missing from his game right now is the consistency at the dot, and if he can figure that out? He is fine at center. If not...then I fall back to the idea that he may be better off at wing. But i say give him some time this year...he seems to have learned a lot last season...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:22 am EST

In the past I was very critical of Chytl as a center. I believed he stood around too much and he couldn’t use his line-mates effectively. I’ve gone 180 on that. He sees his line-mates well. He’s distributing yet he still defaults to a shoot first mentality. He wants the puck and he controls the play while he has it on his stick. Chytl is definitely a center. That isn’t to say that I don’t think he can play a wing. He’s just comfortable at center and productive there.

E

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:18 am EST

This wound up being totally inconsequential to the game, but didn't Mika's shot at the empty net hit the post? Shouldn't that have nullified the icing?

pete

Thu Oct 13 2022 11:10 am EST

STEVIE - I undersrtand the concerns with CHYTL and the question of whether he is a RW or C..But based on his POs last year and the current roster, he has to be at C and he deserves the shot to try and stick there..He's big, fast, talented strong and still young..Can he play a man's 2 way game on a consistent basis? we'll see...

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:59 am EST

Trader Legs: IF Chicago can resign Kane to a friendly contract and then offer to eat 50% of his salary in a trade to us, I'm interested. Otherwise, it's a loooong time until the Trade Deadline.

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:41 am EST

Hospo it’s ok to disagree since they are opinions. But I don’t think mr chypil @23 is a good center. How many games will he be given for anyone to decide this is his breakout season or this is who he is? ….And crabby krappy at 6’3 186 lbs @23 in December is too light for heavy work? Drury has to decide at what age and time these 2 are worth holding on to or not . I’m guessing he goes after Kane @33 before the deadline for that rw spot for a better post season run .

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 10:10 am EST

PUCK - On the flip side, those HAWKS are BAD...Their goalies are gonna end up in padded rooms from shell shock....Not sure that low SOG total will stay for the AVes..think they will be in, and win, a lot of high scoring games...Speaking of the Aves..that guy NICUSHKIN finally has arrived (last year) but it took awhile until he was 25-26 where he got stronger and dedicate himslef to two way play.....Rangers and Krapshot should try and make sure this happens quicker in NY...

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:57 am EST

STEVIE - Good to hear that some of us WALLBANGERs weren't the only ones thinking about putting LAFFY in the top 6! Hope he is there to stay..We disagree on where CHYTL should play and having LAffy on a 3rd line, but it's up to GALLANT....Any word on KRAPSHOT? COuldn't have been a neck/upper body muscle because there are noe....Concusssion?

Hospo

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:34 am EST

Georgiev only faced 17 Blackhawk shots in the win, he’s gonna love the Avs

Puckyou

Thu Oct 13 2022 9:28 am EST

Strome 1g, 2 A. Playing with Zegras who had a goal and secondary assist in OT loss.

Puckyou

Thu Oct 13 2022 8:53 am EST

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34786495

mf

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:35 am EST

mf....check out the highlight goal from the EDM game last night and smile when you see the PP goal from the right side from McDavid ! :)

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Oct 13 2022 7:16 am EST

TD. I saw the game. Leafs were ok but that defense especially the Muzzin/Holl pairing who are atrocious, is mediocre at best. And I’m not even commenting on the netminding. Why? Because 4 forwards are eating up half the cap.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 13 2022 4:55 am EST

“I’d been thinking about putting Laffy up there for quite a bit of training camp, so I don’t think this affects anything,” coach Gerard Gallant said. “There’s no concern. When I put Vesey and Goodrow up there with Fil, I thought they played great.”“I think everybody adjusted real well to losing Kravtsov. I’m not concerned about moving guys around a lot. We did it a lot last year so it doesn’t bother me one bit and I don’t think it bothers the players because I do it a lot.”…. I think mr breakout chypil should be the right wing on the panarin line. Laffy with Goodrow and vesey would make a good 3rd line. Maybe msg can have a new show …” coach knows best”…the sequel to …”father knows best”…

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 4:48 am EST

“ The Rangers had 39 shots against Tampa Bay — 21 at even-strength; 14 on the power play, that went 1-for-4; and four shorthanded in killing five of six and allowing only a five-on-three against.The power play applied such sustained pressure that the first unit was on for 5:41 of the club’s 6:12 with the man-advantage.”… see the 2nd unit got 31 seconds… lol…

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 4:42 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/owners-of-knicks-rangers-and-guardians-closing-in-on-dubious-milestone/

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 13 2022 4:40 am EST

“ Zac Jones, who has been given the all-clear to move out of a hotel and into a permanent residence, is searching for a spot in Westchester.“Not the city, not this year,” Jones, who will turn 22 next Tuesday, said while laughing..”

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:42 pm EST

Strome with 3 points through regulation tonight.

Bob

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:57 pm EST

Dryden hunt this year's MVP lolol

vcp1994

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:21 pm EST

Montreal beats Toronto in game one. I gotta wonder if the whole city is on suicide watch right now. What a trainwreck that franchise is...even at its darkest depths, I don't think the Rangers ever got close to as testicle-punching as the Leafs regularly are...

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:20 pm EST

ColoradoMark - Yeah, I beat up on him more than I probably should. I was loudly applauding the STROME deal when it happened, but after a year two, I was ready to move on. The guy wasn't bad. And I genuinely think he's a solid 35-40 point player, which is GOOD in the NHL...I just don't think you get anywhere with him eating up top-six minutes...and as much as I poke fun at it, sometimes playing a real basic game is a real advantage when it comes to a guy like PANARIN. He just played his lanes and mucked around the crease...let Bread do his thing...but I'd be lying if I were to say I think he'll ever get the numbers he had with Bread anywhere else...

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:15 pm EST

There's no question they overpaid for COPP...but again, it was that or take a quick bow out. The Rangers sans COPP might not have even made the playoffs...and again...this lopsided trade started with KRAVTSOV giving the team the finger and leaving...had he just stayed...he would'a gotten a call-up the second BLAIS went down...and he probably would've kept getting top six minutes even if he DID falter at first because then KAKKO went down...That dude fucked this team in ways that I could only dream of fucking someone...and karma is biting him square on the ass right now...But FWIW, the Jets got an ABSOLUTE STEAL in Brad LAMBERT and a very good player in Morgan BARRON...who, to this day, I cannot understand why he rotted on the bench why guys like KEGGER, J-BLO and HUNT fucking stunk up the ice...Quite literally, DRURY needed to make those deals to keep GG from throwing pluggers out there...

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 8:33 pm EST

TD- Strome drove me nuts at times as he missed more open nets than I can remember, couldn't win a face-off and was generally pushed around. However, the guy was a good soldier and definitely had more chemistry with Panarin than you give him credit for. He scored some big goals and I agree with Hospo- he was our best forward after we acquired him (not saying much) in that trade year for Spooner. He needed to go as I think his lack of physicality and face-off prowess was holding that line back. Bread is more effective when we have the puck. He is not great chasing around the other team after losing a face-off. But I don't think it's fair saying he was nothing more than a pylon with a stick in position for Bread to pass him the puck. He played well with Bread out of the lineup. as well.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 12 2022 8:29 pm EST

RF/Hospo- Murray Barron might have retired in 2004, but he could probably still win some face-offs as a 3rd line center!

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 12 2022 8:22 pm EST

Wild: You wrote, "Pretending that it isnt good doesnt work." .... I decided to search this RFC site (it goes back 30 days) for the amount of times the word 'pretend' has been used, and the result was "7 times" Sometimes it was used in past sense "pretended" sometimes it was used as a verb as in "pretending" but you know what??? All 7 Times in the past 30 days the word pretend was in one of your posts. Congratulations on your 7-0 shutout. Now that's a fact. Here's another fact, a team that can score on 25% of their PP attempts are doing very well historically, Here's another fact, a team scoring at a 25% clip on the PP "may" be able to score on 26, 27, 28,29, 30% of their attempts. Maybe a LHS in the Right Circle like Lafreniere or Kakko (a 1st & 2nd over pick in their class) have what it takes to grow into that role and help the unit improve on the lofty numbers already attained. Here's another fact, if we're scoring on 25% of our PP chances, we're not scoring on 75% of those chances.

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 7:22 pm EST

mf: I would take a LH shot MSL if the rest of the PP was LH shots. Because MSL is a great player that makes things happen. Making some mythical statement that cant happen doesnt change the FACT...the FACT mind you that the Rangers rock a 25% power play. Pretending that it isnt good doesnt work...doesnt cut it. You can throw out a thousand names...and the answer will be the same. If the Rangers power play starts to get regular shut down then it makes sense to mess with it and everyone will think that, including the guys on it. But until then...its a top NHL power play.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 7:03 pm EST

Wild: Would you rather have a LHS Martin St. Louis or a RHS Strome or Trochek on the RW on the PP?

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:43 pm EST

And I admit no problem either with Murray Barron as the Jets 3rd line centre. The Jets however should! ;^)

Rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:42 pm EST

Rf4L: No the experience is part of why we saw the team we did last night, and the reason we see the Kakko we just saw. I would give up a 1st rounder 100 times out of 100 to get that experience...so would every player, every GM, every owner...a first rounder that is in the second half of the round is not worth giving up becoming a better team.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:37 pm EST

Hospo. I sure do. Horrid trade. Gave up waaaay too much.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:23 pm EST

You mean the first rounder that helped take us to the ECF and get invaluable experience as this team progresses to a Stanley Cup Chanpion and learns what plays and doesn't play in the POs? I don't have a problem with it...Now, I do with Murray Barron starting on Winnipeg's 3rd line! well, not really!

Hospo

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:15 pm EST

Jets sign Brad Lambert the kid they drafted using the first rounder fleeced from Drury.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:14 pm EST

mf: It's a tuned engine...its running at high end levels. If they were a middle of the pack PP the last couple years...I would agree...but this PP was 2.1% off the pace for first in the NHL. You really think the AVS are worried that their PP want quite as good as the Rangers? No...and no one here would be saying that they need to change it up, because it has this supposed "proper balance". No coach will look at the 4th best PP in the NHL and think that they should change it...its silly. Get over your personal feelings about what makes a PP good...you know what makes it good? SCORING GOALS! And the Rangers PP does that. It did last year at 25% last year while y'all here said it needed to be changed....and guess what, yeah its one game, but the PP is at 25%...1 for 4 on the PP. The same pace they set last year. Now the same old song and dance will happen this year, if the PP continues at 25%, it will be int he top 5, it will be lethal and will make teams adjust their play to avoid taking penalties. 25% is a crazy good number...and there is no way in hell I would want the coach to mess with it...practice or not, telling the team and the top players on the PP that being the best isnt good enough...and that he thinks he can make it better...and you tell the player you remove that they are not good enough...great job coach

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 5:50 pm EST

Wild, then toy with it in practice. First you build the engine then you tune it.

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 5:18 pm EST

I will say it again. The belief that a certain balance on the PP is required, is proven wrong when the PP is the 4th best int he NHL. I dont care why it works, but its working. and it works even though everyone knows what they do. Tampa knew 100% that the puck was going to Zib for the one timer...and what did they do? They scored on a Zib one timer. They would have scored another that wasnt a Zib goal if Vasy didnt have the quickest feet in net. Because they dont have a one trick PP, they have a go to plan, and then they also have the down low threat of Kreider....they have proven that they dont need a guy becsaue of what hand he shoots...its past tense fact...and until all teams find a way to stop the PP, or a playoff opponent does it would be absolute crazy to change it...you dont toy with a top 5 PP...even if you do have a change of players...stick with what works. What they do works.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:56 pm EST

Coach_Newf: Yuuuuppp!

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:48 pm EST

Mf...you know darn well you are preaching to the choir on this topic. But This year I'm gonna shut up..because it's working GG's way so far (and last year too? )Maybe it's just me being a perfectionist former coach but any combination of 3 of one shot and two of another makes more sense to me. Sometimes I watch this configuration of 4R + 1L and it drives me crazy as they pass, pass, pass and pass for that one timer from Zbad's side. The option of an opposite side threat as well just makes so much sense. But like I said ,until this #1 unit goes south ,it's gonna be feathers from me !

Newfie_Ranger

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:29 pm EST

Our PP: I still think that a LHS on the RW is 'far' more advantageous than adding TROCHECK to the 1st PP Unit. Lets get LAF or Cocknballz on the 1st Unit PP and then build a 2nd Unit PP starting with: Trouba-K'andre, Trochek for the LW-Circle, LAF or Cocknballz whichever one did not make the 1st Unit PP, and then a guy like Sammy Blais (God willing he'll get healthy) to take over the Blue paint like Kreider has done on the 1st Unit. GG & Company are practicing this so says TD's buddy Larry or the Parrot, but IMO we need to get Trocheck off that 1st Unit for the addition of an LHS. "Roll 4 lines, fresh legs, play hard, draw penalties, punish em on the PP, "Hoist the Cup!""

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:12 pm EST

We need a healthy Sam Blais. Who knows what his ceiling is as a player, and as filling out our depth chart. DRURY obviously liked what he saw in Sammy's game, and that's good enough for me, we need this guy to make a full & hopefully speedy recovery.....

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 3:50 pm EST

JFC: The good thing is that those guys are still young, the coaches and other players can point to them as an example, and it doesn't feel so fake. What I mean is if you point to a guy like Panarin, or Trouba who has been around for so long that it feels like they just appeared as top players who never struggled it has less impact. Probably most of us have had that in our lives. Having someone at the panicle being used as what you can become, and it feels so far off that you dont actually believe it...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 3:47 pm EST

Sorry, meant to include that because of the $180,000 and change cap space if no one goes on the IR there is no room to add another body, be it Gauthier or someone else (unless someone goes on the IR).

rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 3:45 pm EST

I think the way around the lack of cap space and extra bodies is putting a player on the IR. However, to stop abuse a player is committed to IR for the 10 days (I think it's 10) meaning he cannot come off earlier. THerefore, if you want to player to play and you feel the injury is day to day, you avoid the IR. But when you're tight to the cap like the Rangers are you cannot fill that player's spot. The Rangers now have 2 forwards who are allegedly day to day but only 1 extra forward (Hunt) so if another forward gets hurt Thursday one of that player, Blais or Krappy has to either has to play game 3 or go on the IR; otherwise, the Rangers play a forward short for game 3. That's the dilemma LB was endeavoring to highlight (I think). He's second point was a lack of depth overall organizationally that would be felt if 3 or 4 or more players went down for longer periods of time but I'd say what NHL team wouldn't be similarly squeezed? And the cap pain the Rangers are working under doesn't make them unique - at least 1/3 of NHL teams are operating with the same (or less) limited cap space.

rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 3:28 pm EST

Wild - agree…he has the size & the tools to be a top 6 guy but he just needs to get himself some “man strength”…looks like Kakko, Laf & Chytil have grown into it so now it’s Krav’s turn

JFC31

Wed Oct 12 2022 2:04 pm EST

Hospo they traded to Edmonton spoonher for Strome, that was a big steal.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 1:37 pm EST

TDCHI - Don't know much about STROME before he was dealt here but being that he was just about the Rangers best forward the 2nd half of his trade year and BP .....I think there's a little more to it then that....Still, PANARIN surely helped him keep succeeeding like he will do with TROCHEK as long as they hone in on the same wavelength...Panarin is the straw

Hospo

Wed Oct 12 2022 1:13 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2h#NYR practice lines:Kreider - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Trocheck - LafVesey - Chytil - GoodrowHunt - Carpenter - Reaves

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 1:06 pm EST

It’s starting the look like crabby krappy has some bad omens in his Nyr career. I wasn’t depending on him and I hope the Nyr were not. The prodigal son is not the messiah.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:49 pm EST

Haha...STROME literally sat around coasting with his stick on the ice. That was his chemistry with PANARIN. Admittedly, I've had that notion that maybe there was some sort of special bond between those guys...but I always came back to the fact that STROMER was a stone-handed winger who owes pretty much his career...certainly his $5 million contract...to PANARIN literally feeding him the puck for three years...Guess we'll see soon in Anaheim, as he looks to be their top center...which is nuts...and is with McTAVISH and TERRY...love both players, but they won't save STROMER'S cheese like PANARIN did...

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:49 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·36mGallant said that Blais will make the trip and is closer to returning than Kravtsov (who will be staying home). He did say that Dryden Hunt will play tomorrow, though, so I would think the earliest you’ll see Blais is possibly Friday. #NYR

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:29 pm EST

sjw - It's cuz Brooksie likes to talk out his ass. I'm not even going to try to rationalize his logic, because it's stupid. KRAVT on the IR will mean he's out 10 days...and maybe the Rangers don't want to do that...the dude is a boob. Again, I don't know why folks read him. If he was ever good, he sure ain't now.

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:27 pm EST

Oh, adding to that, this injury may get him to that conclusion quicker...I am sure he knows how easily he was pushed off the puck on that earlier shift, and then knows he had no ability to battle back against Headman where he got hurt.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:26 pm EST

mf - The big difference in Z's game? He's been healthy(knock on wood)...after two seasons of being dogged by injury and then a third fucked COVID, he's finally gotten a chance to soar and he's become the player many figured he'd be when he was drafted..it's one of the reasons I really hope CHYTIL can get a few good 75-80 plus game seasons under his belt...Ditto with KAKKO.

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:25 pm EST

JFC: Krav is at a point that Kakko and Buch and Chytil, and well...there is likely a loooong list, where younger guys are unable to battle against the more veteran players in a physical sense. I think it takes losing al those to really grasp how much harder you need to work in the offseason to bulk up, or maybe not bulk, but get stronger and make adjustments to skating style in traffic then apply changes and see whats works. If he cant adjust he will end up failing at the highest levels...if he can, well, he has skill and knows where to go he will be really good.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:23 pm EST

SO apparently with Miller on the ice last night the Rangers outshot attempted Tampa 22-9. Now some of that may be who he was on the ice with and against...though he and Trouba played the most last night, so they were out against top lines for sure, but I dont know who the forwards were most of the night with them. Still, thats impressive, and likely he had something to do with that sort of domination. He keeps that up, he will be getting Norris consideration come the midway point of the season.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:18 pm EST

Break in and SHOT! Lol

JFC31

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:17 pm EST

Hospo - agree that Krav’s injury coukd be a blessing in disguise, as long as he’s not hurt badly. With Laf replacing him, that line looked very effective after the first couple of shifts…1000% better than preseason. I noticed several times that Trochek & Laf seemed to have chemistry…probably because both play a more NA style than Bread. Both looked hesitant a couple of times when Bread had the puck…not sure what he was gonna do…good vs. opponents but mates will have to learn his tendencies & stay ready for anything. On the Krav injury, agree with td that Hedman lusshing down on his head & neck looked BRUTAL. Also agree tgat Krav is not strong on his skates…gets knocked off the puck too easily. He had a prime chance for a break-in & shit in his 2nd shifts but easily got pushed off the puck by the d-man. Keep Laf there & let the line gel…

JFC31

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:14 pm EST

@vzmercogliano·3mGallant said that Blais will make the trip and is closer to returning than Kravtsov (who will be staying home). He did say that Dryden Hunt will play tomorrow, though, so I would think the earliest you’ll see Blais is possibly Friday. #NYR

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:13 pm EST

saw: IRT starts to fall into the emergency call up rule area. You cant go over the roster limit just because of IR unless you dont have enough healthy players to fill a roster. So in the Rangers case, they cant call up a guy to be the spare or even to play if that means Hunt for instance is a spare after. So if lets say hunt gets hurt the next game, they could call up a F and go over the roster limit if a guy was placed on IR so that they could dress a full lineup. What they cant do it call a guy up right now in order to have a spare on the trip. Something I think the NHL should create a waiver for. a non cap/non roster spot or two...lets say a D a F and a G to bring on road trips that are more than one game. That way if there is an injury and a team is maxed they dont have to put a player through the stress of rushing them to a game from across the country...then have to play tired form travel. You could even stipulate that they cant skate with the team....so they would have to skate before practice or whatever but not with the team at all. I understand the cap rules are made to make teams have to compete at the same level...however punishing teams and players becsae an East coast team is not he west coast for 4 games over 8 days doest do that.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:02 pm EST

Vt: I have always said ti takes a good 20 games for the average player to adjust to everything after a changing of teams. Probably a bit less when you move to a new team in the offseason since some of the distractions are taken care of before you have to lace up and hit the ice. But so much changes, where you live, where you get things liek shopping and auto repair, healthcare...all that stuff for you and your family. Meeting new people on the team, learning how to do things at the new facility, new system type things from a coach, even just how practice is run. Trainers and their ways of doing things. Then you get on the ice and have to learn about how your teammates do things there. And you have to do that with all the stresses listed earlier that can weight on you...and thats before you have to deal with things liek kids dealing with the move and a spouse having to deal with it. And liek it or not, those stresses affect your play. Trades are much more abrupt so they take longer to deal with, but still, after 20 games its likely you know what you have with a guy. Oh and not to mention coming to NYC to play, mojo market, all the eyes and the expectations that come with that add to it for those going to the Rangers (or leafs, Habs and such) SO with Trocheck I would expect sometime at the end of this month or the first week or so of next month to see him hiding his stride...that will be between 10 and 15 games wit a couple trips out west to settle in with the boys and a nice stretch at home in the middle to settle in the rhythm there.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:00 pm EST

VT - good point about PANRIN and TROUCHEK..STROME had some good chemistry with PANARIN becasue he found open spaces to be to accept and be ready for PANARIN's passes....That's different from the more buzzing way TROUCHEK plays so, yeah, he will have to learn to adjust to Panarin's talents and game..So will LAFFY or whoever else (Krapshot when healthy)

Hospo

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:56 am EST

CM - Yea I get the no Cap relief... but teams can call players up to replace players put on IR .. min 7 days.. I do not get Brooks take on that at all .. really if you weren't allowed iR call ups 18 teams currently have no "cap " space to call anyone up < than the league minimum salary available ....it does impact a short term injury.. like sitting out for a game or 2 .. only Florida and Toronto are @ 20 players with no ST spare parts

sjw

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:51 am EST

Great opening night. Thought Trocheck played much better than what I saw in the pre-season. It's going to take another 10 games or so for him to learn to play with Bread. Especially on the powerplay, it looked like Trocheck was surprised by several passes that Bread somehow threaded to him. Understandable given that Panarin completes passes that no other player would even try. Very optimistic.

VtRanger

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:49 am EST

Practice lines reported Kreider – Zibanejad – Kakko / Panarin – Trocheck – Lafreniere / Vesey – Chytil – Goodrow / Hunt – Carpenter – Reaves. Blais was in a non contact jersey. I would say that means he is unlikely for the road trip. Unless today was the test day and the medical staff says he is good to go, but usually they like to get a gut in a full practice first....thoguh this short a time out of camp who knows

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:46 am EST

On the flip side...its reported that Balis was at practice SO, hopefully that means he is good to go for his first action of the season.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:41 am EST

The fact that the Rangers didnt put Krav on the IR makes me think its a minor injury. Liek a muscle pull or a sprain. Cant focus on the fact that he is out for the two game trip and likely to be back next week. The next game is tomorrow, the second one the day after and they dont play until monday after that...so next week and then not again until next thursday. It snot a shock that a guy that is day to day and recovering from an upper body injury isnt being put on an airplane today to fly, sit around while the team plays, then fly again that night to again watch the team play to then fly back home to test out the recovery in practice. Its just timing. If they played the next 2 or 3 at home he would probably just be listed as "day to day"

Wildcard

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:39 am EST

I've watch the KRAVT mauling many times at this point, and if he was concussed, then I'm the fucking king of England. To me, it looks like he was pinned awkwardly and when HEDMAN decided to try to smear his face into the ice, he strained something in his back, neck, and/or shoulder. Bottom line is that HEDMAN shouldn't have gotten away with that from the refs...and with them obviously turning a blind eye, then from REAVES. If he's out there to "police" then police he should...HEDMAN continues to play another 20 minutes after this hit. Oh here's the hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMDygMN9og

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:09 am EST

mf: "Raised eight boys, only Cappo Cocko" turned bad,Didn't get the lickin's that the other ones had." By today Cappo is da man!

Jerry_Garcia

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:02 am EST

RF4L - No surprise there. And that's the better spot for him. They'll try to rehab LINDBOM in the ECHL and I believe they already have a guy who is better than him there, which isn't a high bar to clear...FWIW, I'm not a huge believer in BOYKO and I remain confused why the Rangers drafted him as high as they did when there were better players on the table(sound familiar?!)...but at least they frittered away a fourth rounder with him and not the high second rounder they pissed away for LINDBOM...of the low-tier goalies still in the system, the only guy I can see potentially panning out is Hugo OLLAS. And even that is a stretch. We're very lucky to have Dylan GARRAND.

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:02 am EST

MF: The Candy Man's in town....Nice Rangers win coupled with the Yanks win last night.

Jerry_Garcia

Wed Oct 12 2022 11:02 am EST

MF: Zibanejad has always been an elite skater. He’s not as fast as Kreider but few are. His first step is massive. It’s why he looks like he’s gliding half the time. He really reminds me of Patty Marleau when he was younger. Low and fast. Every game it seems that Zibanejad ends up with a breakaway of some kind. He lugs the puck far in front of him and if you’re defending, getting a stick over his leg is so hard without taking a penalty. But strangely it seems like a rare occasion when Kreider is on a give and go breakout. You’d think with their speed they’d be blasting up the ice shift after shift. But I’m amazed at NYR fans sometimes. They don’t even realize how good Zibanejad is as a checking forward

E

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:53 am EST

Clownface McFuckstick??? Classic!

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:50 am EST

We interrupt this broadcast with a contest: who here wants to bet a 'medium size decaf, black, no sugar,' that, "Cappo Cocko" is the most misspelled name of any Ranger for this season? ................ "Come on boys and wager, if you have got the mindIf you've got a dollar, boys, lay it on the line...." :->)

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:50 am EST

Stevielegs - Clownface McFuckstick doesn't know what he's talking about. KRAVT on IR? Yeah, that's $950K off the books if he's out for 10 days. And if they decide they want GOAT instead of HUNT(news flash: They won't), the could very easily demote JONES on paper, keep KRAVT on the regular roster and bring him up. While it's tight, sure, the Rangers have so many different ways they can create cap space for themselves...the most obvious would be to dropkick HUNT off the team and go back to 13 forwards...Just like his Devil-loving ass to basically piss on a great night in Ranger hockey: Hey Brooksie. Take that shriveled worm that hangs between your legs and shove it square up that giant, gaping vortex that is your well-used anus. GFYS.

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:48 am EST

Sorry: gave = have. And I mean you can recall a player if you have 23 on the roster. So if Blais or Kravt went on IR (7 day min) we could recall a player and never 24 roster spots. But the cap hit still counts.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:46 am EST

SJW: I think injured reserve just allows you to replace the player if you gave cap space. It’s only LTIR that offers cap relief.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:45 am EST

Hospo, totally agree and it could be the best thing for KRAVTSOV as well as it could prove to be the slice of 'humble pie' he needs at this time to keep his attitude in proper alignment. Kravtsov needs to be patient with himself, the NYR's are building a winner, and if he wants to be part of a winning team, he has to up his ante. jmon

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:45 am EST

Tradestar: I saw Campbell (and the dirty knobs) open for Chris Stapleton in July. He was good, played a few songs with Stapleton (about the only country artist I will drop anything to see!).

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:39 am EST

Overall positive start, including FO's .. can't expect 64% ever night but improvements are welcomed .. helps possesion and noticeable on the PP ....still have some TO issues and a couple of soft plays at the defensive blueline not getting pucks out hard ... I read the Post article and I am confused by the salary cap regarding Kravtsov... if he goes on IR...why can't the Rangers recall Gauthier, he makes less than Kravy by 50K .. teams are allowed IR call ups as long as they are making same or less I thought??

sjw

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:24 am EST

Krapshot's injury, and hopefully it is only short term, might be the best thing that could have happened to the Rangers...It SHOULD give them no choice but to keep LAFFY in the TOP six where he belongs and can give some strength and force to that line..Given how well Kakkao looked with his linemates, I think that can set up a pretty damn formidible Top 6...And then mix and match with the bottom six for awhile, including sliding up players to hold leads like last night..Hopefully only a minor injury to Krapshot and he can come back after a conditioning/strengthening stint in HARTFOR ....

Hospo

Wed Oct 12 2022 10:20 am EST

E: After reading your recent post it dawned on me that Kreider could be teaching Zbad how & what it takes to make that "quick first step and accelerate" over the last year or two? It's pretty obvious to me that Zbad has been working with Kreider on how to improve his offensive game ie: all things stick-work, so it would make sense that in return, Kreider 'may' have been helping Zbad with his skating. jmo natch

mf

Wed Oct 12 2022 9:57 am EST

KRAVTSOV: Bummer he got knocked out of the game... I was definately keying on him to see how he fit in w NYR lineup... looks like a concussion on Hedman's hit from behind... in fairness, it was not a hard hit... Kravtsov is rail thin and apparently not very strong on his skates... hope he recovers soon... NYRs are down 2 RWs already after 1 game... brutal

schneidw

Wed Oct 12 2022 9:42 am EST

Z was fantastic, but BREAD started his dominance and in the 3rd period and showed some incredible stickhandling, skating, and passing.

Jerry_Garcia

Wed Oct 12 2022 9:08 am EST

Zibanejad continues to show an increase in his defensive game. He is an elite player on the back-check. It always seems like when the other team is breaking up ice Zibanejad is all over them forcing a turnover and then he’s just gone. And for a big guy he skates wide and low. You can’t get it away from him. And he always has that 1-timer but that twitch to a backhand goal was filthy. Of course history suggests that Zibanejad will still be streaky but if he can find more consistency? He won’t get mentioned amongst the McDavid or the Matthews of the NHL. But he definitely will be right behind them.

E

Wed Oct 12 2022 7:53 am EST

Bob. Agreed on Zbad’s start. Total opposite from what we’ve seen all too frequently.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 7:32 am EST

TD. Boyko sent back to junior so (thankfully) no lower level minors for him this year. He’ll be interesting to watch. Hope he dominates!

Rf4L

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:54 am EST

Just watched the game off of the DVR......great opening night win.....Zbad is sooooo Zgood......one of the best all around Ranger players in my lifetime...this is his 7th year in NY.....crazy.................Last night I missed the game because I went to see Gov't Mule here in Durham NC......Warren Haynes put on a master class.....and Mike Campbell (guitarist of Heartbreakers....and one half of the Tom Petty songwriting duo) was the opener.....He is freakin great live.......If these two come to ur town....check them out!

tradestar28

Wed Oct 12 2022 6:14 am EST

Had one of those days, NOTHING was going right and was not seeing eye to eye with the boss. THANK YOU RANGERS for ending the day on a better note. Have to admit when I saw the 5 on 3 and the tie (was following the game but could not watch it) I thought "par for the course" ...nope they pulled it out, and on the lightening which is almost as good as beating the Islanders (IMHO). Thanks guys.

wiosa

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:32 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·7hGallant called Kravtsov “day-to-day,” but said they won’t really know more about the severity until tomorrow. ….. the part he left out was gallant said they have to wait and see what the doctors say. He didn’t say it wasn’t serious. As Phillip morris would say call for sammy blais .

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 4:25 am EST

“Even if Kravtsov, who played three shifts for a total of 1:38, is placed on injured reserve, the Blueshirts would not have the space to accommodate, say, a recall of Julien Gauthier. It’s going to be a minefield out there for the Rangers.”…https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/vitali-kravtsov-highlights-rangers-tenuous-salary-cap-situation/

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:25 am EST

Incidentally, five of six Ranger defensemen tonight represented the US in the WJCs. Four were products of the USNTDP. That's goddamn crazy. Can't say I've ever seen that on any team, much less the Rangers.

tdchi

Wed Oct 12 2022 12:21 am EST

Great first game and I hope it sets the tempo for the rest of the season...Not to detract from the Rangers win...because it was a superb all-around effort...but man, Tampa is becoming a victim of their success. They are NOT the same team without McDONAGH...less so with PALAT, but he was another loss...they just don't have the depth that made them so nasty for so long...The Rangers, OTOH...They couldn't handle their depth, even with KRAVTSOV leaving the game early. And I suspect we'll see this with a lot of teams...re: KRAVT, I've been hard on the guy and deservedly so...but calling him 'glass' and 'soft' when he got absolutely mugged by HEDMAN? C'mon guys. That play was total bullshit and the fact that no one in the stripes could manage to spot it is embarrassing. You have a guy crunched into the boards and then a 6'6 240 pound dude crosschecking his head after the hit? That's shit and the league should really take a look at it...but talk about never skipping a beat...Rangers just bounced right back...TROCHECK/GOODROW: 63 percent, CARPENTER/CHYTIL: 75 percent(!!), and ZIBANEJAD: 69 percent. Winning faceoffs like that literally gives the opposing team no avenue of winning a game. Zero. That is called controlling the puck and its how you win decisively...CARPENTER. Kind of surprised to see as much criticism here after that game. I was pleasantly surprised by his play. He didn't skate much, but what I saw, he looked OK...VESEY was a very smart PTO and even smarter signing. Still miss MOTTE, but we got a player who is probably better overall...How's that ZIBANEJAD contract looking now?! What a performance. One for the ages there. I couldn't help but to think what fans in Ottawa must think every time they see him ripping up the ice...they traded him AND a second round pick for the guy they just signed off a PTO...Looks like LAFRENIERE and KAKKO will get the bump to the top six with KRAVT likely out. Hopefully, we get BLAIS onto that bottom line and then VESEY can bump up with CHYTIL and GOODROW...still kinda sucks to have CHYTIL getting limited ice...The PP. I absolutely LOVE our first unit and any bozo who was handwringing and purse clutching over STROME "the bumper"...well, you ain't seen fuckin' DUKES man. TROCHECK, when he settles in, is gonna make that PP unstoppable...STILL, it irritates me to no end that GALLANT will literally use them for one minute and 45 seconds...roll out the second unit...and when there's another penalty called? First unit right back out. Like shit dude. Let the second unit start for just once. LAF, KAKKO, CHYTIL, TROUBA and LINDGREN(I think?)...that's a good group of players for your man-advantage and it's a chance to reunite those three who were literally pinning teams in their own zone in the playoffs...That's my one complaint is that if you look at the ice time? It's just not sustainable. Can't skate your top 10 players 20-plus minutes every night...SCHNEIDER and JONES probably had to use hand warmers...and REAVES? Six minutes? Why is he in the game again? And what did he do after KRAVT got mugged? I didn't see him do much. HEDMAN certainly didn't care he was out there.

tdchi

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:39 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/11/mika-zibanejad-rangers-drop-lightning-in-season-opener/

mf

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:44 pm EST

PJ - In all honesty, this is the first game I have ever liked the way JONES played..Keep it coming VA boy (he's from right down the road from me)...And KK was indeed very good all around..While the kid Line is a nice story, he mostly belongs in the top six

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:10 pm EST

I thought Carpenter had a decent game as well….Looked better than in preseason….Didn’t recall seeing much of Reaves in the third….

PJ

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:08 pm EST

Loved the play of Kakko tonight……going to the net and the reverse hit on Czernak. Blocked shots, played well in front and kept the shots down. Zibenajad was insane all game. Quite a difference from his start last season. I thought Jones played well even when overmatched al9mg the boards. He is quick and plays a smart game. A nice start when the only goal you give up is on a 5 on 3 against.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:04 pm EST

Hospo…I had hoped Jones would get a chance….Just one game but he really played well….He handled the pressure in the D zone and his positional play was sound….

PJ

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:57 pm EST

Watching the Vegas/LA game. And boy...are the Rangers and Lightning on another level, at least in game one. This game looks slower and lacking skill compared to what just happened at MSG. There is just not much creativity, no sharp quick offensive plays, goalies are not being forced to make any crazy world class saves. I cant imagine either of these teams playing the same way would have even looked like they were in a game with either the Rangers or Lightning and the way they played.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:40 pm EST

pk 5-6 was very important

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:37 pm EST

Real good all around game and Igor didn’t have to save us. Can you imagine how much me and this board would be complaining if Namestinko was our 3rd center.

Jake0104

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:34 pm EST

Here's the big set of numbers for the night 0-17-25-35-38-67 and 0-0-63-63-69-75-75. That first set is Tampa, second set is the Rangers...and those are face-off percentages. BTW all 3 players that were 0 percent took 1 draw and lost it. Everyone else took at least 4. HUGE numbers here for the Rangers. Lets hope they can keep this sort of thing up.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:29 pm EST

I have never been a fan of JONES D and roaming but tonight he stuck mostly to D and aquitted himself well in all zones....Stick, smarts and positioning and compete is how he will get it done on D..Maybe my concerns on the 3rd pair are overblown...Hope so....and ALAS, POOR LIBOR, WE KNEW YE WELL! But, there will be inuries ( I SPY LINDGREN) so hope he keeps his head up

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:24 pm EST

Something else as well. I said it doing camp and preseason. Jones seems to have figured out that he cant just rely on his quickness to help him defend, but he has to eat the play and be in proper position. He did that again tonight. Yeah his size causes him issues, but tonight I saw it a few times, while he is getting muscled around, he keeps his stick in a good spot to stop the player from being able to make a good play, and he ties sticks up while he is otherwise being taken out of the play by a larger guy. It wont always work out perfectly for him, but he has got some things in his game this season that I didnt see last year, even int he AHL.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:21 pm EST

OK nice start to the season! Finally got to watch a game, and not sure what all the bellyaching in preseason was about? ;-) anywhoo, it was a solid workman like win where the Rangers held a slight edge all game long and eventually outpaced the Lightning. Has the worm finally turned? Tampa will still be very good for a while yet but I think they are heading down the other side of the pyramid. Krappy getting hurt early sucks be am I really surprised? No. I pretty much have given up on him and it has been a long time since that preseason game against the Iceholes in Bridgeport where he didn’t stick up for his teammates and was subsequently sent down the Hartford..we know the rest. Trade his ass to Gorto's Habs and get it over with. Lets Go Rangers!!!!!

NYStranger

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:21 pm EST

Rhet: Thats a great way to put it. They acted like a veteran team. They had some "been there done that" swagger, and kept playing the same no matter how things went...got the lead, bad calls against them, had the game get tied...got the lead again...they just kept playing the same way shift after shift...very workman like. If they do that most games, they will win a lot of games this season.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:20 pm EST

Zbad was OUTSTANDING ! Shesty was rock solid and over all a great start to the seson in beating the team that knocked us out last year. Blais is gonna be a key, if he can stay healthy.

Newfie_Ranger

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:20 pm EST

I have no problem with VESEY being in a bottom six role... Occasionally moving up when he get's hot or late in the game for defense, but that's it.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:19 pm EST

ROLFE... That play by Trouba was a thing of beauty.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:19 pm EST

Hospo: Agree on Balis. Veset is a nice player and a very good option for injury fill in. But tonight he was mostly invisible....not bad at all, had some good plays, worked hard, defended very well. All in all he didnt hurt them. But Blais in his place not he 4th line in think just creates a different dynamic...or you put him not he 3rd line and have two lines with guys that can put you into the 3rd row if you dont pay attention.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:16 pm EST

They did not need their goalie to be all world tonight, it was Tampa that did. Puck possession and face offs much better. All in all a good start to the season against a good team.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:16 pm EST

That back check by Trouba was the play of a captain leading by example. Superlative. Sets the tone.

punchrolfe

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:16 pm EST

Biggest takeaway form tonight IMHO. KAKKO...my goodness, he dose not even resemble the guy who played last year. I mean, sure, his style is the same, he moves much the same...but my goodness, he seems bigger and stronger by a lot, is clearly much more confident, and just looks like he is on a mission...who in the NHL can stop him when he is like this? I know he isn't unstoppable, but damn he is close to that when he plays lie he did tonight. He even looks faster and quicker.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:16 pm EST

This team acted like a veteran team tonight. They were very mediocre in the preseason (mostly going through the motions), but they turned it on once the bell rang on the regular season.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:14 pm EST

I HOPE BLAIS is back soon, his energy and speed could really complete the bottom six..We could use an energizer as the season goes along

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:13 pm EST

Good thing they won or the fire gallant rants would be rampant.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:13 pm EST

It's only one game but I thought Carpenter was very mediocre.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:13 pm EST

JFC - Ferraro has a few Rangers he praises all the time but other then that he is a chore to listen to

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:12 pm EST

39 shots on goal...giving up just 27, 64% at the dot. A goal at even, on the PP and SH...only down side is the Krav injury...would have been nice to see if he could have gotten something going with that line. Igor looking like he is sharp already. I dont think anyone looked "bad". Carpenter was the weakest link tonight I think, but he was winning draws and defending well most of the time, and I think he got better as the game went along. I still think they could improve over him....but for now he is fine.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:11 pm EST

Get your lips off of Vasilesky’s ass, Ferraro! Geezus!

JFC31

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:11 pm EST

Nice start to 22-23.!

Drew

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:10 pm EST

Great opening night team wide....faster and controlled the puck against a GOOD team..which made playng D easier..Team looked very together in the 3rd period..

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:10 pm EST

Rhet. After Krapsnot left the game who didn’t impress??

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:09 pm EST

Very impressive win. My worries totally ill founded.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:09 pm EST

I hate to say it but I thought JONES was pretty good tonight. Solid.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:08 pm EST

I don’t want that POS Perry to tie or pass a class act like Gilbert. So hoping he goes all season without a goal!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:06 pm EST

Just missed.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:06 pm EST

soooooo close...

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:05 pm EST

So, looks like when defending a lead late in a game, GG will put Vesey & Goodrow up to Top 6 & reunite The Kid Line. Smart moves…

JFC31

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:04 pm EST

Bob: I would have been fine if they sent both of them...since Chytil did grab his arm...but he was only in that position to do so because the Tampa player interfered with him.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:03 pm EST

Game 1 refs will always call a tight game. Following orders from their Führer Buttman

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:02 pm EST

Chytil gets interfered with and he gets the penalty. Refs are in mid season form. Rangers have played a good game tonight. The kids both looked good in the top 6.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:01 pm EST

I like that...top lines guys used not he PK...so the next shift the kid line gets tossed out rested...

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:59 pm EST

Yeah, Lindgren is very underrated. He's one of those guys that you don't realize how much he does until he's injured.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:59 pm EST

Looks like Kakko completes that Z Line! Is it me or do Trochek & Lafrenière seem to read each other really well. Our Top 6 May be heading in the right direction! This is the best The Bread Line has looked.

JFC31

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:58 pm EST

Holding? OK...on the replay he was holding him...but...ahhh...you cant stop in front of a guy to slow him down in order to stop him from getting the puck...thats a pick...

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:57 pm EST

Lolol. NHL Officiating sucks.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:57 pm EST

How is that not a penalty on Tampa? Are you F&*&ing kidding me?

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:56 pm EST

Trocheck needs to work out the kinks/butterflies.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:54 pm EST

I also have to say, while its just one game. The "C" doenst seem to be adding any weight to that sweater Toruba has on. Not every guy can take that role on and not show signs of it in their first game with it on...

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:54 pm EST

Carpenter still sucks. He's the soup of people.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:54 pm EST

Get this top six, as it should be, going..and mix,match and grind with the rest..can be a very good team

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:53 pm EST

Is the more underrated defender in the league more than Ryan lindgren

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:53 pm EST

Very nice redirection BTW

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:52 pm EST

First 5v5 goal of the season...and its from the 4th line...I will take that every day of the week.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

Crapentar is great!!

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

Awesome tip by Mr. Do everything (include taking penalties!)!!

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

YEAAAAAAAHHHHH BAABBBBBBYYYYYYY

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

Yeeesch!!

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

GOODIE!!!! Making up for the PIMs LOL

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

Goody Goodrow

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

SO Kreider has been for a long time the strongest top 6 F on this team...probably Reaves only being stronger...has Kakko taken that spot now?

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:51 pm EST

What a play by TROUBA!

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:48 pm EST

Miller was just held 10 times worse than how Carpenter just got called for "holding" Refs are trash right out of the gate this year

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:47 pm EST

At least zbad started the season scoring rather than what he did the last 2 seasons

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:47 pm EST

Yeah, they've been saying that EICHEL really looks like he's returned to form this season. I guess we shall see.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:46 pm EST

How the hell was that a penalty? They were in a battle...how was that "holding"?

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:46 pm EST

Crapentar sucks.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:46 pm EST

No doubt this roster will change before game 20 probably sooner

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:45 pm EST

Normally I see things and say "Opps...thats a penalty" but tonight, I havnt said that much on the calls they have made. Want to see a replay of this one, because I didnt notice anything live.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:45 pm EST

Gretzky always led the league in turnovers. Just sayin, but he also forced turnovers. Bread is the same type.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:45 pm EST

Kaffy/Panarin chemistry burgeoning???

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:45 pm EST

Carpenter's lack of speed could result in alot of minor penalties this year!

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:44 pm EST

For the love of Carlos Santana, please send Carpenter down!

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:44 pm EST

Holding?? Is that a roughing the passer call on Brady. Wrong Tampa team zebras!!!

DCIGolfer

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:44 pm EST

The refs are stupid tonight...they are calling it way way too tight...but after the first period where they were afraid to call anything...even blatant things.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:43 pm EST

That shift by Bread is why you put up with the turnovers. Electric moves and puck control. Top 5 in the league.

DCIGolfer

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:43 pm EST

Need the #2 unit?

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:43 pm EST

There's the BREAD we know and love.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:42 pm EST

And nice hard writer from Laf there...think it hit Vasy in the chin...

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:42 pm EST

Good shift by the 2nd line...they need that

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:42 pm EST

PP1 deserves their ice tonight. Panarin just put on a clinic.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:42 pm EST

What a pass by Jones there...WOW

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:41 pm EST

You want a one-timer STAMKOS? Here ya go...My boy ZBAD looks ready

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:41 pm EST

STFU Cooper you creepy weasel.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

YYYEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH BAAAAABBBBBYYYYYYY

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

What was that about too much Zib? Thats why you see going back to that well...eventually you get to drink from it!

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

Thank you!

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

Zbad

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

Z2!

Ranger47

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:40 pm EST

Sorry Name, you did hit him in the face.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:39 pm EST

Score here. Nobs.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:39 pm EST

WILD - Yep on JONES..I;m not a huge fan but I think he's been oK With his strength limitations, he's just gonna have to learn to play smart and positional on defense..in time..

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:38 pm EST

No, it was a good call, Goodrow is pissing me off. No reason for that penalty.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:37 pm EST

Hey are talking about sloppiness on ESPN...I agree...and it looks like a game being played by two teams still losing for timing..not always, but every once in a while you see it, things just fail to click at times. Neither team is al that bad looking with it, but both have been bit by it here and there.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:36 pm EST

Though that call was bad at first...but in slow motion it was an easy call for the ref, even if dude went down rather easy for that amount of tugging on the foot.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:35 pm EST

Aw come on!

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:35 pm EST

Hospo: Only thing I can knock Jones for, and its nothing he could have done about it...but he was positioned well on a guy with the puck...but just got carded to the net with him, Like literally jsut moved against his will. If a big guy gets leverage on him, there is nothing he can do about it. The good thing he did was stay on his feet, and kept his stick interfering limiting what coudl be done with the puck.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:34 pm EST

Vasilevskiy will steal this game for tampa

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:33 pm EST

I'm feeling a KAKKO goal.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:33 pm EST

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/10/12/ny-rangers-lose-vitali-kravtsov-early-in-opener-to-an-upper-body-injury/69555050007/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:31 pm EST

Ragners have abused Stamkos at the dot tonight. He is 0-5 heading into the 3rd period. Hard to imagine that will continue..he is a good player. But to have him 0-5 at the dot is HUGE for this rangers team

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:31 pm EST

I missed the first, but JOnes didn't look all that bad in his brief appearnces in the 2nd..The penalties really cut into the bottom players ice time

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:30 pm EST

KIS - I resemble that remark!!..Carpenter makes me yearn for RYDAHL...

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:29 pm EST

Dougt we'll see it, but with the effectiveness of the KID line in the POs might we see them reunited once again just for parts of the 3rd against TB?

Ranger47

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:29 pm EST

Chelly was funny talking about Gallant throwing them at him in that old clip.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:28 pm EST

COMark I agree...its not like they were jsut cycling the puck and not getting chances, they were moving the puck, moving bodies, getting the PK to break down some and getting shots through, and getting chances...a couple really good ones, and then kept it going by getting control of the rebounds. I don't want to see the team give up pressure on the PP jsut to change players. Last thing you want is a bad change at the blue line as the puck comes up the boards...then the puck goes the other way and your PP turns bad.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:26 pm EST

Agreed on the dumb strategy in terms of PP1 vs PP2, the latter of which is an oxymoron.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:25 pm EST

A lot of speed out there tonight....Beautiful finish by ZBAD...A pretty good night for the team so far but...PANARIN with a patented turnover..Gotta take the very good as well as the turnovers with him I guess.....Not a great debut so far by TROCHEK but hopefully he comes up with the winner! Missed the Krapshot injury...May not be a bad thing for the Rangers top two lines..

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:24 pm EST

KIS - Any other goalie than Vas probably gives up those 2 to Kreider....

Ranger47

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:23 pm EST

Rhet: My thought was neck or back...muscular was my first thought...pulled something. And if he did, playing through it just makes it worse. Lets hope thats all it is, because getting it iced, then heated and massaged and some rest will have him back to 100% quick. The worst case is something tore...that would suck. But whatever it was is not an impact injury so most likely soft tissue.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:21 pm EST

CoMark... I think you mean ANY work for PP2 :)

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:21 pm EST

Lolol. Ok. But I only said it once. You doubted me thereby forcing me to reiterate it (which literally I didn’t).

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:21 pm EST

Why do I feel like this is one of those games that MIKA is going to have to bail us out if we're going to win?

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:20 pm EST

I’d like to see PP2 get more work, but hard to complain about the chances and shots generated by the 1st unit. Only way to change is on the fly and when you have them pinned in the zone, don’t know if it’s best practice to try and replace players piecemeal. They could have scored 3 PP goals and the 2nd unit would have had less time. If they hadn’t created chances and had the puck iced multiple times I’d agree. But I don’t see this on Gallant so far.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:19 pm EST

Stop saying it! I think it's a neck injury. Kind of amazing that no penalty was called on that play.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:17 pm EST

Rhet. Not true. I said it!!!

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:17 pm EST

*Kravtsov

NCRanger

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:17 pm EST

Rangers going to need others to shoot on the PP, not just Zbad. Teams saw that show last year. I'd like to see a 2nd unit of the kid line with miller and trouba. Give the second unit some time. Kreider isn't going to get as many goals as last year. He gets 30some

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:16 pm EST

Trocheck has a much heavier shot than Strome, I wish they would pass it to him more on the PP. Actually, I really wish they'd give Laffy some time on PP1.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:16 pm EST

Rf4L - say it ain’t so. I rather see a weak Jravtsiv struggle to find his game than see Hunt again. Oy vey

NCRanger

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:14 pm EST

Sog 32-16 but 0-3 on pp

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:14 pm EST

Seriously. Why have a PP2. Hey GG…do you know the definition of insanity?

NCRanger

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:12 pm EST

Tamps gets away with so much holding and interference. Its disgusting...and to think the refs will allow more and more of it as the season rolls along.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:12 pm EST

Good games by 2 good teams. Tampa’s size is still difficult for the Rangers to deal with. And the giant dude with the amazing reflexes in the net for them.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:11 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·33mRangers say it’s upper body got Kravtsov and he won’t return

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:11 pm EST

Too much reliance on Z on the PP.

Cnparda

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:10 pm EST

Panarin looks like a mere mortal tonight.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:09 pm EST

No one has said concussion.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:08 pm EST

We should keep in mind...the Rangers create chances like this against pretty much any other goalie...and they have 1 or 2 more goals...this kind of offensive creation is a good sign IMHO

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:07 pm EST

With Krapsnot concussed Hunt will be back in next game.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:07 pm EST

Sergachev keeps it 1-1. PP 2 Unit. Go get your 24 seconds and 8 seconds, respectively. What a fucking joke.

NCRanger

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:06 pm EST

Power play done everything but score. 1 mistake by Fox, but impressive so far. Then Kakko draws another one!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:05 pm EST

Kakko with the moves drawing penalties...making player miss and then reach to try to stop him. He will draw a lot of PP time this year.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:05 pm EST

Ferraro so excited to talk about the Lightning again

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:04 pm EST

He has the fasted legs I think I have ever seen on a goalie...he gets across so fast...incredible.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:03 pm EST

How did that not go in for Kreider?

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:01 pm EST

Mr chypil goes boom again

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:01 pm EST

Not a fan of carpenter. I think Hospo can skate faster. Will be many changes to this team during this year

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:00 pm EST

CoMark... I was just thinking the same thing :)

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:00 pm EST

Goodrow was maybe a head shot but it wasn’t an elbow

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:00 pm EST

Ok, funny commercial with a Stamkos!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:59 pm EST

Crapentar is crap. Handles the puck like it’s live ammo

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:58 pm EST

Not to shit on Carpenter but why is he here?

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:58 pm EST

Kakko playing with a ton of confidence.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:57 pm EST

Carpenter is most unimpressive.

Cnparda

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:56 pm EST

Hagel should've gotten the 2nd penalty that was assessed to Goodrow for the bad acting.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:55 pm EST

From the other angle the elbowing call is even worse. His blow was down the entire time...not even close to a penalty...refs absolutely want to make this game more even if they can. They must have been told the NHL wants an OT rematch....

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:55 pm EST

Panarin and the officiating in mid-season form.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:53 pm EST

I get the trip....sucks...but its how they call it always...but Elbowing? With your elbow tucked against your body and your shoulder making the contact? ELBOWING?

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:52 pm EST

Elbow?

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:52 pm EST

The refs very clearly trying to even things up now.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:51 pm EST

P with 2 giveaways in 10 seconds creates this mess. Geeesh.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:49 pm EST

I am sooo loving Miller’s feistiness. It’ll be interesting to see if he drops the gloves with someone as the games rollout. He keeps doing what I’ve seen several times tonight someone will challenge him.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:44 pm EST

Who had the first goal being a Zib goal...maybe a bunch of folks...but Zib driving across the top of the blue paint to roof it while bing tripped up by the goalie? Yeah...not many...LOL

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:42 pm EST

ZZZZ!

Ranger47

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:42 pm EST

Shorty zbad

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:42 pm EST

WOOOOWWWWW!! What a Goal!!!!

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:42 pm EST

Zbad!!!

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:41 pm EST

Krapsnot concussed.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:38 pm EST

Positives: PP looked great. Kakko strong like bull. Lindgren still bounces back like a weeble. Miller and Trouba solid.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:30 pm EST

I’m not writing off Kravt just yet. He had 2 shifts and there should have been a penalty on his second one when he was almost on a breakaway.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:28 pm EST

Agree with Mess, KK looks good, as does Miller. Poor Krav, he reminds me a bit of Buch when he first arrived. He bulked up and became an all around player. Don’t think Krav will develop like him but the dude is going to get destroyed if he keeps playing like he is. Also did we really just dominate in face offs?

Cnparda

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:28 pm EST

Colin S Newsday: #NYR won 10 of 12 faceoffs in the first period. Trocheck was 5-for-5, Carpenter 4-for-4, Chytil 2-for-2, Mika 1-for-3. (Holy Crap?)

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:28 pm EST

Stevie. Lololol.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:25 pm EST

No doubt the tampons are sneaky dirty, that’s how they get away with it. It’s not a bad way to play the game, especially in the playoffs

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:24 pm EST

I too echo some thoughts on Krapshot.He just doesn't have what it takes to play at the NHL level. Ok ,he is young,big deal. He won't hit, he can't take a hit, he is made out of glass. So we wait all year for him to put on some meat and grow some balls ? Not me.

Newfie_Ranger

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:23 pm EST

Only got to watch the second half of the period, but so far so good. Nice start to the season...great goaltending at both ends, good jump form the Rangers...and when was the last time we heard announcers say "10 face-off wins in a row for the Rangers" ? I think maybe never? LOL. At least it feels that way. That by the way has the Rangers at 86% at the dot after one. I mean..WHAT? 86%?

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:21 pm EST

The Nyr have mr chypil and kripple

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:21 pm EST

Cheetos needs to do squats. guy is always on his ass. Jones foolishly pinching deep when PP was clearly over almost cost us a Stamkos goal the other way. With 4 games in 6 days, we should see Hajek. Krappy a little boy

stepunmytoe

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:21 pm EST

(Video) he trespassed the tomb of the unknown soldier... (BIG MISTAKE)

None who is giving Krav carp...I challenge you at an age to have someone have your hip pinned high with your back abasing a wall...then shove your head down to the floor. You can EASLY pull something in your neck or back doing that. Its game one, they may just be extra carful or he coudl have something torn. But to pretend that it was not a dirty little extra from Headman that was for no reason other than to attempt an injury is lying. Headman had him 100% and didnt need to lean over to shove him as hard and low as possible....zero reason for that other than, you know it could take a guy out. End of story.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:14 pm EST

Vas in his game so far.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:12 pm EST

Finally after like 5 infractions not called.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:09 pm EST

What a split by Vasi there.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:06 pm EST

They need to go to the replay on that last drive.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:04 pm EST

Face and body. What a disastrous pick. Glad OTBG is gone.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:03 pm EST

Yeah, I can see us making a trade for a defenseman at some point in the season.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:03 pm EST

Krapsnot looks like he’s 17 years old.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:02 pm EST

Kravstov in the locker room already...

Richter35

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:01 pm EST

Miller physical. Love it.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:01 pm EST

Rd. I agree on kravtsov

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:00 pm EST

Hedman of course!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:00 pm EST

Damn Kravtsov hurt already? Wtf?!? That boy needs some muscle pronto.

NCRanger

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:00 pm EST

I'm sorry jones is a liability on D. He is small and not very strong. He can't do it for a Stanley cup team.

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:59 pm EST

Kravt hurt already?

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:59 pm EST

Krapsnot hurt. He is so out of his element.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:58 pm EST

Looks like kravtsov is gonna have to hit the weight room

Kis

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:57 pm EST

Did Panarin just back check?

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:57 pm EST

My puck for first goal of the year: Lindgren

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:48 pm EST

I wasn't kidding about K'Andre, I can see him having a big year.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:45 pm EST

John Brancy is unreal.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:22 pm EST

No way. Halek will win the Norris

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:21 pm EST

Heston... That's funny, I was kind of leaning toward Miller :)

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:19 pm EST

The lawgiver has spoken. Trouba will win Norris trophy.

Heston

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:16 pm EST

Hope Krapsnot steps his game up a notch. Or 5.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:16 pm EST

I'm pretty sure he was on with Michael Kay.... Poking the dragon on day one.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:16 pm EST

Moose never ages! LGR!

NV94

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:14 pm EST

Was it on ESPN? I just switched and they are on air. They were talking about Russell Wilson and whether you should drop him from your fantasy team when I last checked!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:12 pm EST

COMARK.... He said the NYR's were winning the cup this year.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:10 pm EST

Rhet- What did Mess say? I have to wait until ESPN goes on air?

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 6:02 pm EST

Why MESS? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY???????????

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:54 pm EST

Talon Boyko? He is already in Jacksonville. He gets to start in the ECHL. Probably soon to be joined by Huge-O Ollas.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:54 pm EST

Good Luck Wallsters, here's to a great season, can we keep the lurking down to a minimum? :->)

mf

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:31 pm EST

Good season all… the roller coaster ride begins.

E

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:02 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·31mGallant didn’t reveal who’s getting scratched tonight, but he smiled and said, “You saw the lines yesterday.”

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:01 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano RetweetedNew York Rangers@NYRangers·39sOFFICIAL: #NYR have agreed to terms with goaltender Talyn Boyko on a three-year, entry-level contract.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 4:58 pm EST

Getting pumped! It's weird our last game was against these guys also. But they no longer have McDonough and I think Cole is out.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 3:45 pm EST

HOSPO—Clearly my advanced age is affecting my memory. Glad you are here to remind me!

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 3:36 pm EST

What's a matte BOB, you don't remember the great Adam CLendenning? :)....And remember when Molly Hatcher wore #4? That was a disgrace!

Hospo

Tue Oct 11 2022 3:29 pm EST

If so remember correctly, the last player to wear #4 was Michael Del Zotto. A lot of the kids come in having worn high numbers in juniors or college and stay with them. I am not a fan of the high numbers, but as teams retire numbers there are less available. A perfect example of that is the Yankees. I am old enough to remember when any player with a number over 25 was a scrub.

Bob

Tue Oct 11 2022 3:24 pm EST

tradestar28 - lol - I feel vindicated - Lambert played in the late 80s. #14 or 17? For some reason, I always remember the Rangers would never distribute the high numbers to their regular season players. Esposito was the exception and then not until Gretzky. When Nedved came back to the Rangers the 2ns time and he wore 93 then it seemed like the jersey distribution opened up. I feel like K'Andre Miller (he was 19 in Wisconsin but it's retired) and Chytl should more permanent numbers. Yep way too much time on the uni's

DREW

Tue Oct 11 2022 2:47 pm EST

Guys who can take the body on you are always the threat. They come after your time and space. They cause you to send the puck down the boards to no one. And if they’re big and heavy, they just lay on you. It’s just hard to deal with. If I’m a goal scorer and Reaves I on the ice I know next shift he won’t be. I may only have to play a shift 1-2 times a game.

E

Tue Oct 11 2022 2:40 pm EST

Gauthier's body with the warped brain of Theo Fleury. Yes please send him into the lab. Good riddance !

shonuff

Tue Oct 11 2022 2:40 pm EST

Gauthier's body with the warped brain of Theo Fleury. Yes please send him into the lab. Good riddance !

shonuff

Tue Oct 11 2022 2:37 pm EST

re: REAVES/deterrence, I'll start by saying he's as close to acceptable as a goon is gonna get in my book, and that's because he moves well and isn't totally bereft of ability...That said, I think fans blow the idea of deterrence WAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion to the point it actually seems comical at times. I've played hockey all my life and I can tell you the guys I fear the most AIN'T the big beasts that lumber around the ice...it's the guys that can punish you physically AND on the scoreboard. Players of the cloth like OV: Big, physical, fast and who absolutely EAT minutes in a game...the guys where you groan every time you see them lining up, because you know they're going to hurt you in one way or another...Someone like REAVES? Man, if I'm lining up by him, my only real thought is that I gotta keep my head up and on a swivel. But that's also how you play the sport...One of the things I notice about him is that he actually DOES get the puck fairly regularly(as opposed to someone like BOOGAARD or iCLOD or ORR)...and part of that is because opponents just don't cover him. In fact, they try to stay the fuck away from him...And that's how he gets played by other teams. He's going to be on the ice for nine minutes a game. Just avoid his ice...Now when you have an OV or someone like WILSON...you have players who not only crush you, but can also pick up the puck and burry it. THAT is a deterrent...but let me tell you...if you think the bangers out there are going to hold up on hits just because REAVES is in the lineup and might come after them? That's just not accurate. I mean, look what SUBBAN did to BLAIS last season. Or better yet, LOOK WHAT HE DID TO REAVES! Two slewfoots. Two games. And he still took the ice and did his usual yapping, cheap-shotting...There's a reason why the quintessential goon is going the way of the dodo and that's because the game moves too quickly for them and the risk/reward for having them is just not there...and so they've been replaced with guys like KADRI and WILSON...or the TKACHUKs...all legit scary players who will punish you twice...REAVES gets by because he has JUST enough talent to not make his line a complete liability. But as we saw in the playoffs, that vanished quick...The bottom line? If you're going to have him on fourth line, you absolutely NEED two stronger guys with him...and that to me means VESEY and GOODROW...CARPENTER, from what I've seen, ain't it. HUNT definitely ain't it. But we shall see...especially against a team like Tampa, which has a coach that dresses four that he can roll...and his fourth is every bit as dangerous on offense.

tdchi

Tue Oct 11 2022 2:34 pm EST

Wilson is NOT afraid of Reaves. They’ve had at it several times. Salary cap aside the guy I would want is Josh Anderson. Anderson seems to love going after Wilson. And for a top-6 forward he can really throw if that’s what you want. Personally, I want more snarl in the top-6. I could care less about the fighting. I just want a top-6 guy who can get to the net and take away eyes for Zibanejad who is such a threat on the far side.

E

Tue Oct 11 2022 1:22 pm EST

CM: I believe Reaves should have dropped the gloves with Wilson this past year. It was a statement game and no statement was given. Also, piss on Wilson as well. He runs around like a chicken with his head cut off without a guy like Reaves in the line up. With Reaves dressed he’s going for the Lady Byng

Jnyr

Tue Oct 11 2022 12:41 pm EST

Rhet0ric - Either you haven't been reading my thoughts on this firing this past few years or you're forgetting: These are the breadcrumbs that lead up to GORTON'S firing. While he did some good work with the Rangers and brought in good pieces, he also did some extremely stupid shit...and buyouts are in this category...No, I'm not saying GORTON got canned because he pursed out stupid buyouts...But that's part of the fucking issue. He never saw a contract he couldn't buy out. And since when does "rebuilding" team buyout players? Which of them out there can you cite other than the Rangers? That's just not true. He bought out GIRARDI to buy SHATTENKIRK. Then he bought out SHATTENKIRK to buy PANARIN. And let's not forget that he bought out LUNDQVIST for...well...who the fuck knows...and while he didn't quite buy out STAAL, he literally gave him away with a second rounder...again...for no real reason at all...But buyouts and stupid deals aside, there's also how he held onto an asset like DeANGELO for waaaaaaaay too long and lost a 50-plus point scoring defenseman for nothing(oh, except for the cost of his BUYOUT)buyout)...The stinking Canes ended up with a second, third and a fourth for a guy who was four days away from free agency...and then holding on to GEORGIEV instead of LUNDQUIST...allowing a fucking bat-shit crazy three-headed hydra of goaltenders to evolve...I mean, I can keep dipping into this...I'm not gonna sit back and say GORTS is a bad GM or even subpar, because I absolutely don't believe that...In fact, I think he's a very GOOD GM...he just happened to get REAL sloppy with the Rangers during his final years. No doubt, he and to a far lesser degree, JD, laid the foundation for what we have today, which is very good...but he also made a whole slew of mistakes. I mean, just think about how much stronger this organization would be had they gotten what the Flyers did for DeANGELO. Or had they dealt GEORGIEV the summer before last. Or had they the cap leeway to keep STAAL for a year. They do all those three things? You're looking at a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for DeA. Probably a 2nd and a 3rd for GEORGIEV. They'd have the 2nd they frittered away to move STAAL. And then they could've saved the 3rd they moved to get BRAUN...Yeah, this is hindsight and 20-20...But there was more than enough reason to part ways with Gorts even before the WILSON game. Fans just completely ignore them.

tdchi

Tue Oct 11 2022 12:34 pm EST

I'm a big Reaves supporter and I think he is a deterrant. I also would like him to be more reactive even it means going on the PK for a few minutes. I don't think it is Coloton Orr syndrome where he made his name as a goon and now wants to be known as a hockey player. Reaves has always been a feared fighter, but he has also always been a pretty decent hockey player and his physical play is one of the most intimidating guys in the league. JNYR- But what game shoudl he have gone after Wilson after? He wasn't on the Rangers when the incident happened?

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 12:10 pm EST

And just to also mention - while Reaves didn't play in the POs, his presence during the year possibly kept our OTHER players from injuries that would have meant losing them to the POs....

Ranger47

Tue Oct 11 2022 12:04 pm EST

So now he’s nuke reaves or nukeaves.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:51 am EST

jnyr: Good overview on RR's importance. Yes I wish he was more reactive but no RR would be far worse than what he brings to the table currently.

rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:31 am EST

Just wanted to chime in on my take on Reaves. I'll start of the wall and segue in....when I was in the Navy, I was stationed on a Submarine. We carried those funny weapons everybody hated. I was told the reason we carried them is to Not use them. And by us Not using them....the other guys who knew we had them would Not use theirs as well. We were a deterrent. That's how I view Reaves. Everybody remembers the Wilson game, but go back a bit. McDonough getting a concussion.....opening on the west coast and Rick Nash getting a concussion both from blows to the head. Not even a hint of retaliation. The game that really stands out a few years back was in Nashville...we were ran out of the building. Forsberg to a run at Staal, laid him out..and laughed skating back to the bench. This was one of the most embarrassing games I have witnessed as a Ranger fan. And there are a good handful to choose from. Just having Reaves dressed tones down the cheap shots. If we did not have Reaves, Trouba would be challenged every time he laid a big hit on someone. Is Reaves perfect ...No......should he have gone after Wilson in the next game.....I think so. As a 4th line winger he held his own last year. Yes we scratched him int he playoff but his need does not come into play in most playoff games. During the regular season is where shit tends to hit the fan. If he gave us this year what he gave us last year I would sign up for that. Tons of clean hits...OK defensively and having opponents keep there eyes open and heads on a swivel.

jnyr

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:27 am EST

Drew...i am the jersey number king for Rangers in early 80s to the Cup year... I could recall every player even the obscure ones like current ice hole coach lane lambert... Lol

tradestar28

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:26 am EST

ColoradoMark - LOL!!! TOUCHE!! And again, another miracle of the modern world. Just goes to show you how crazy good that team's offense was to manage a cup with him in the lineup AND Darcy KUEMPER in net!

tdchi

Tue Oct 11 2022 11:05 am EST

For some reason uniform numbers interest me since Gretzky's 99 stories. Schneider switched to Ronny Greschner's #4. (according to the team roster)

DREW

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:57 am EST

Jake- At least we won't be subject to Biz Douche!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:56 am EST

TD- That's "Stanley Cup Champion" Jack Johnson to you!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:47 am EST

Wow. Talk about a lineup primed to tank? The Chicago Blackhawks. That team is going to be TERR-I-BLE...Just to highlight this, they could very well have a Jared TINORDI-Jack JOHNSON pairing on D: https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1579847978814124033

tdchi

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:43 am EST

Oh man the game is on ESPN. Awful

Jake0104

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:38 am EST

Count me in as a little weary of tonights game. That said, I'm pumped. Wearing my Rangers Panarin jersey to work here in Avs country! Wish we had Blais for the first game, but I think we will have Vesey instead.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 11 2022 10:00 am EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·1h#NYR Alexis Lafrenière turns 21 today

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:58 am EST

I used to live for the Rangers home openers. The hype video that MSG used to produce and the player intros from the old entrance between the benches. I don't like how they come from the visitor Zamboni entrance and if your Lias Anderson, an electrical wire may trip up your intro.....Over/under in games when I start worrying about the Islanders?.....Our records in home openers aren't great - whether on the road or home. Typically that doesn't translate on whether our season is a success or failure. The emotion and excitement of opening night sometimes seems to lead to a dead crowd by mid 2nd period. Hopefully, the opponent being Tampa Bay after last season will keep the Rangers engaged.

DREW

Tue Oct 11 2022 9:50 am EST

Is tonight going to be spitball two the sequel, laffy’s revenge?

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 8:10 am EST

Mollie-Wanna-Cracker writes, "Chytil and Lafreniere have also been practicing on the second power-play unit with Trouba, Kakko and Vitali Kravtsov." -- 2nd unit PP ay? Where'd you get that from? How about a little donation to the RFC Wall Administrator for the content? Ay Mollie?

mf

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:58 am EST

MF'S Tuesday line generator has GOODROW / CHYTIL / KRAVTSOV penciled in as the 3rd line. I'll let you folks battle out which top two line LAF & KAKKO join.....

mf

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:12 am EST

I don’t have a good feeling about tonight’s game. I will happily admit I was wrong however.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 11 2022 7:05 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/11/rangers-nhl-preview-prediction-can-they-win-stanley-cup/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:36 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/10/familiarity-around-hungry-rangers-heading-into-season-opener/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 11 2022 5:36 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/10/sammy-blais-injury-status-in-doubt-for-rangers-opener/

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:58 pm EST

In all honesty, hospo... I am not really too excited yet for any hockey... I know we will have a good season and make the playoffs.. But I think how God forbid we couldn't get a break on a young kid who is a bona fide star.... Yes, shesty is def one which does keep my interest levels high and some faith... But it woulda been nice if some of these first round forwards were money in the bank on the ice..... This includes kraphead... Who looks like dogshit this preseason, Kakko, Laffy and chytil.... Yeah I know JFC... U hate my opinion... Too fn bad! Let me eat my foot with a Cup

tradestar28

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:55 pm EST

Rangers getting some scary love on the NHL Network season picks...HRADEK has them beating COL for the Cup....Craig Button has them losing in the finals to, I think, COLORADO..

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:54 pm EST

Rangers getting some scary love on the NHL Network season picks...HRADEK has them beating COL for the Cup....Craig Button has them losing in the finals to, I think, COLORADO..

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:20 pm EST

TRADESTAR - Don't count your chickens yet, I had a long conversation with Jeff Gilooly this weekend!!!!

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:19 pm EST

PJ - Yep...they will be a good team this year, How good depends on what type of steps CHYTL,KK, And LAFFY take..and now we can add Krapshot to that list.....As it should be, I guess, why we tried to suck under Gordo....I truly expect the TOP 4 D to improve even more, but am deathly afraid of LINDGREN staying healthy...and the SCHNEDER-JONES pairing scares me..but at least it is the regular season beginning ...Hopefully HAJAK works his way ahead of Jones somehow if they let him out of his basement

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:52 pm EST

vcp1994…Not sure we are a better team than we were in playoffs….Lose Copp, Motte, Strome, Braun and Frank the tank….Add Trocheck, Carpenter, Blais, Kravtsov and Jones on third pair D….Our success is dependent on the improvement Trocheck gives us and young players improving..Chytil, Kakko and Kravstov all need to be successful…Hajek or Jones need to take a full time spot….Will find out soon enough….

PJ

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:28 pm EST

NEWF/E…Agree on Gauthier….The guy is not good and he isn’t physical….Also not sure why so much angst wasted on waiving this guy….

PJ

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:27 pm EST

We should have a decent regular season just remember folks we faced inferior goalies in the playoffs we are a playoff team but not a contender yet unless. Chytil doesn't break a nail, kakko and laffy go another level them maybe we are closer .also need blias to stay healthy.

vcp1994

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:33 pm EST

The Shattinmypants signing has Nob for Life’s greasy paw prints all over it. Accurate insight? We’ll never know but it’s so similar to so many dumbass contracts that overrated piece or crap is guilty of it’s certainly possible.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 8:31 pm EST

;-)

mf

Mon Oct 10 2022 8:27 pm EST

Now that's REAL Pretzel Logic.

punchrolfe

Mon Oct 10 2022 8:07 pm EST

Rhet: I would love to tour the south land..........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBxZFadp9Pw

mf

Mon Oct 10 2022 7:11 pm EST

Chicago claims Tinordi? So they really are going for Bedard!

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 6:54 pm EST

Tdchi did you forget the Lundqvist buyout?

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 6:43 pm EST

TD.... So you're premise is that Gorton deserved to be fired for all the buyouts he made? You mean those same buyouts he would either have had to be pre-approved to make at his level or he would have had to get approval from the President and ultimately the owner as well.... Also: DOLAN who agreed to the rebuild/being competitive sooner rather than later plan, which in it's own nature can only be accomplished by doing buyouts(You literally can't both clear out room to sign guys AND build through the draft without buyouts).... AGAIN, Dolan agreed to all of this... but somehow in your mind, it was still grounds for Gorton to be fired? That is some major pretzel logic there. JMO, of course.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 10 2022 6:40 pm EST

That's gotta be the stupidest column I've seen in a long time: Most guys I know who play hockey would literally cut off one of their testicles with a rusty knife to win a cup. Shrugging off a captaincy for one? Meh. OK.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 6:13 pm EST

RF: yeah, but hopefully GG doesn’t get it in his head to play big minutes on these guys regularly. But Hunt showed himself to be serviceable if played in his skill set. He skates quick, he never saw a check he wouldn’t. Likewise, I think Carpenter likes to lay the hits although I was not impressed at all. Reminds me of Stoll. A guy who was just done. And while I watch Gustav languish in the A. And he’s a guy I really thinks makes your team go. He stirs the drink every shift. And he hits to hurt. He wants to leave a mark on you.

E

Mon Oct 10 2022 5:57 pm EST

RF4L - The stupid think with the GIRARDI contract is that they could have just fucking KEPT him. He was overpaid for his ability, sure. But there was no real reason to buy him out. And the fact that one of the top teams in the NHL quickly signed him and then played him is further evidence of how stupid that move was. But if we're REALLY getting down to brass tacks...that buyout freed up enough cap space so that the Rangers could sign who? Yup, Kevin SHATTENKIRK...Who was ridden for two years and then bought out...and who signed with the EXACT same team GIRARDI did...and won a fucking cup...Tangent here: I've gone into why GORTON and JD were fired...well...if you're looking for another exhibit for how Gorts really dug his own grave? Read above. Buying out GIRARDI. Signing SHATTENKIRK. Buying out SHATTENKIRK...So it's yet another reason why fans who get all incredulous about GORTON getting fired after the Wilson incident and more specifically, blaming that game FOR getting him fired...well...you ain't looking at the full picture. GORTON did a lot of good here...he also did some batshit crazy stuff that continues to hamper this team to the day.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 5:19 pm EST

HUGE GEERTSEY fan here...Absolutely LOVED him in Hartford. But let's call a spade a spade: He is no where near the player REAVES is. Not even country mile close. I've never been a huge REAVES fan, but the guy can move and he can play hockey. And scary as it may be, he's actually better in terms of offensive ability than some Rangers(cough, cough, HUNT)...GEERTSEY is a guy who is in the straight out goon mold. I could see keeping him as maybe a seventh, but more likely an eighth defenseman...but as a wing? Man, that's some stupid shit right there from the second worst coach in the NHL...in no way, shape or form should GEERTSEY be at forward. It's even stupider than when SMITTY was there(HEY! Anyone notice a pattern here?!?)...As a defenseman? He isn't bad. Reminds me a TON of Dylan McILRATH: A guy who goes for the big hit ALL the time...even when it takes him out of position. He's too slow to be in the top six of a contending team...and that means he's a situational guy...and TBH? A dude like TINORDI is a better all-around player than GEERTSEY...which is why one is on a new team and the other is bound for the AHL...I have no idea why the Devils claimed him last season. Almost seemed like a retarded attempt by Lindy RUFF to chirp the Rangers. Regardless, he had no future here. His getting a year in Jersey was an absolute gift and couldn't have happened to a better guy. I know I'm talking smack about him, but he really is a heart-and-soul player...very easy guy to like.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 5:10 pm EST

BTW Rangers STILL paying for buying out Dan Girardi FIVE years later and 3 years after his retirement. So many people poo-poo long term lucrative contracts for guys pushing 30. In 2014 Nob for Life blessed Girardi at 29 years of age with a 6 year $30,000,000 contract and 8 years the Rangers are still paying for that silly deal.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 5:09 pm EST

GAUTHIER clearing waivers is great news, but again: The fact that the Rangers aren't icing the best team available to them is concerning from a management perspective. GAUTHIER outplayed both CARPENTER and HUNT. And he's not the only one either: RYDAHL is the other who should really be with the team...I am glad they signed VESEY, who earned it. Very surprised TINORDI was nabbed and while I know he's not a fave here, I did kind of like the idea of maybe keeping him as a seventh defenseman.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:55 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/10/chris-kreider-would-rather-have-stanley-cup-than-rangers-captaincy/

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:52 pm EST

Personally, while Geertsen fights more, but I'd rather have Reaves because he absolutely punishes people and brings more intangibles. And yes, he plays defense but about as well as Tinordi.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:52 pm EST

But now the real issue is reaves . Like many so called goon enforcers they stop being one as they get older and live off their reputation. 2 Nyr were crushed against the fishstinks , and reaves did nothing in a preseason game. What will he do this season, let trouba handle it?

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:51 pm EST

E....I too am glad that Gautier has been sent down . I can't believe the amount of oxygen and print that has been spent here on this guy who is at best an AHler. Maybe he could help a Chi or Phx team,maybe. But if he is in our top 12 ,we are a weaker team.

Newfie_Ranger

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:50 pm EST

Stevie. Yes. I liked a lot if what Squishface did but his refusal to have that element on his club (and too often pushing kids into competitive levels they aren’t ready for) we’re decisions that drove me crazy. I certainly don’t pine for him. And I don’t know what Davidson accomplished other than being readily available to the media something Squishface Nob for Life and Drury don’t do.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:46 pm EST

Stevie. Geerston was waived by the Rangers after camp last year and claimed by the Devils. What’s even more baffling about the No SquishyDonuts recall is he originally signed an AHL only deal then in March 2021 they signed him to an NHL contract. I recall thinking and posting that it was because they wanted to be able to recall him due to the Rangers getting beat up in some games. That they didn’t recall him makes no sense but common sense and Ranger management is all too often an oxymoron.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:45 pm EST

Stevie- Right, I get what your saying now. Yes, during the 2020-2021 season he was never called up even after he signed an NHL contract after being on an AHL one the year before. He shoudl have been called up for the Washington game for sure, btu wasn't. But he was on the Rangers the next year and was claimed by the Devils and went from playing a pre-season game with us to playing one with the Devils for the last pre-season game last year.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:44 pm EST

Rf4l the good part of it was the 3 stooges were sent packing for their lazy stupidity. They depended on smith to be their muscle. They all talked a good day’s work.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:36 pm EST

And one cannot help but wonder if both would still be here if Geerston had been recalled and used effectively against the Caps. I do think it’s reasonable to believe Wilson won’t not have done what he did if Geerston had been dressed. He’s a legitimate heavyweight.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:34 pm EST

Cm geersten played in Hartford and signed as a ufa with the debbies last season. He was never called up by the 3 stooges. And with reaves doing his later day Colton Orr routine, I’d rather have geersten. Who if I’m not mistaken can play forward and defense .

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 4:32 pm EST

Geerston got snapped off waivers last year when like Tinordi part of the final cuts. The previous season SquishyDonuts foolishly and inexplicably decided not to recall him after Kreider and Trouba went down against the Islanders thereby setting the stage for the Wilson fiasco a few days later. What’s particularly annoying about the shameful Ranger episode (one of waaaaaay too many) was that even some of us could see the pending calamity. SquishyDonuts were subsequently fired shortly after and for sure that embarrassing incident played a significant part of Dolans’ decision.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 3:24 pm EST

Stevie- Are you talking this year? Geertsen was with the Rangers last year, I think. Got sent to Hartford and was claimed by Debbie’s. Kind of this year’s Tinordi. Then he was a PIA against us.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 3:16 pm EST

Hague resigned. 3 years at roughly $1,000,000 per. Krapsnot for Hague!!!

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 3:14 pm EST

E. With Crapentar the coach has 2 of those guys…

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 2:47 pm EST

Puck- Not really, depends on what you think is "enough". True- Only 5 signed to NHL contracts (Welinski, Emberson, Scanlin, Robertson, Skinner) but there are also AHL Contract guys Giuttari and Hillman and a PTO guy named Theocharidis. They also sent two AHL contracts to Jacksonville: Henault and Martin who were also in camp withthe Rangers. So They have enough, but our so called D-Depth is definitely not what it was before Lundkvist was traded.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 2:44 pm EST

The goat was the 21st pick in the first round in 2016. I hope we haven’t heard the last of him yet.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 2:41 pm EST

New York Rangers@NYRangers·40mOFFICIAL: #NYR have assigned forward Julien Gauthier to @WolfPackAHL and have released defenseman Matt Bartkowski from his PTO. In addition, defenseman Jarred Tinordi was claimed off waivers by Chicago.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 2:15 pm EST

Am so glad we can finally put to bed the Gauthier debate. I’m not sure I’ve seen so much of a divisive player in a long long time. As for Hunt? Every coach has that guy. The one that most fans ask why about. But the coach thinks is the bees knees

E

Mon Oct 10 2022 2:07 pm EST

Axel Jonsson-Fjallby is a hell of a pickup. He's another player that got screwed by a numbers game. Just not enough room. Leason is another good one.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:49 pm EST

I read with losing Tinordi, Hartford doesn’t have enough defenseman, is that true?

Puckyou

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:48 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·10mBTW, the current 23-man roster leaves the #NYR with about $183,500 in salary cap space. Tight, but it fits.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:25 pm EST

I saw geersten was placed on waivers by the debbies. He was passed over by fishboy donutson and Dairy Queen when they were in desperate need of a protector.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:23 pm EST

Stevie: I guess that answers my question. A team can lose two guys in one fell swoop.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:22 pm EST

The goat never played on the top 2 lines as far as I can remember. Probably didn’t deserve to, but some others have that fall into that category. Guess gallant and his coaches didn’t think he was even worth a try up there .

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:18 pm EST

Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli·13m#NHL waiver claims (Oct. 10): Josh Mahura (FLA), Connor Ingram (ARI), Jarred Tinordi (CHI), Axel Jonsson-Fjallby (WPG), Brett Leason (ANA).So #caps lose two guys off waivers - Leason and Jonsson-Fjallby

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:16 pm EST

OK...of all the possible outcomes of the waiver wire...not once did I ever suspect that TInordi would be grabbed. I do have a question. Can a team only lose one player to waivers over a certain period of time? I don't know if I have ever really thought about that.

Wildcard

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:15 pm EST

TD: Gauthier seems like the ideal RW for the Panarin line... no doubt about it... its so strange how Gauthier's size, speed and willingness to go to the net doesnt translate into points... worse, he is a defensive liablity... I would have bet almost anything that he was going to succeed as a NYR... just doesnt add up to me...

schneidw

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:13 pm EST

Agreed zero tears waving bye bye to Tinordi. A good soldier but not an NHLer. So if injuries hit the backline who gets recalled?

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:12 pm EST

Gauthier suck it up and force a recall!!!

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:11 pm EST

Gauthier not being claimed and Tinordi being taken is a solid win-win in my book.

Rhet0ric

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:11 pm EST

Now it’s up to the goat to prove to himself and the Nyr that he can get his abilities to score back in the ahl , and see where he can go from there.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 1:09 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2mSounds like Jarred Tinordi was claimed by Chicago, but Julien Gauthier cleared. I'd expect the latter to be assigned to AHL Hartford. (And don't be surprised if Matt Bartkowski, who came to #NYR camp on a PTO but didn't make the team, gets a deal with Hartford, too.)

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 12:58 pm EST

Squishface MO: “ Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris and Slafkovsky were all called into a meeting and told together that they’ve made the Canadiens. They were also told there are many good players who could make staying hard, and that things could shift quickly.”

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 12:53 pm EST

TD. I’d take Gauthier over Hunt too. At least with the former there’s a chance goals will come. Hopefully he clears waivers sucks it up and picks up where he left off with the Charlotte Checkers 3 years ago which would help his surely shattered confidence and (hopefully) force Drury to recall him.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 12:43 pm EST

Forever Blueshirts@4EverBlueshirts·49mHeads up #NYR fans! MSG Networks will be airing a Rangers '22-'23 Season Preview at 7pm tonight on MSG. Additionally, with the game airing on ESPN tomorrow night, MSG will still have complete pregame coverage on MSG at 7pm, as well as postgame immediately following the game.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 12:01 pm EST

Trading Lindgren will be tough but eventually may have to. He will not last. But what do I know

vcp1994

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:51 am EST

Tdchi I don't like hunt by any means just stating what little he does lolol

vcp1994

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:44 am EST

In a league in which cap considerations influence rosters far more than talent evaluation, luck is the most determinative factor in winning a championship among the six or so elite teams that qualify as contenders. And the Rangers are never very long on luck (unless it's imported from places like Edmonton's roster). We'll all probably die of old age before the players summon the balls to demand an end to this artificially depressed economic system that is every sport owners' wet dream. But at least the union is getting new leadership. Ugh. In the meanwhile, 1 cup in 82 years. Not bad, considering....LGR

punchrolfe

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:32 am EST

Hospo -Count the number of times GAUTHIER was on PANARIN'S line and then let's talk about that goal stat. Sure, I'm making a big deal out of something that is not likely to impact the team too much. It's just frustrating to see a good player waived for a guy who really doesn't have much business being in the NHL. Dryden HUNT is a feel-good story. Guy had a great junior career, squeaked onto a roster and then parlayed that into a two-year contract with the Rangers...but he just doesn't have it. At all. Best I can say about him is that he has wheels and when he's on a line with two very strong players, he's not a defensive liability. But the dude is just not good enough to be on a contending team's roster. That is the point. There are better players that are in Hartford now and he's sucking up both cap space and a roster spot...On GAUTHIER? Hope he doesn't get claimed. But in terms of his contract, what he brings and his potential, he's going to be one of several cherries ripe for the picking.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:25 am EST

RF4L - Granted, hits aren't a science, but GOAT hit more often than HUNT per game last season. Again, if the metric here is hits, the Rangers just waived the better, more effective player to keep a guy nobody in their right mind would claim.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:23 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·4mGallant says cuts are done. So, they’ll start the season with these 23. Of course, he noted, things can always change.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:01 am EST

So the 4 A’s this season are kid k zbad Goodrow and panarin.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 11:00 am EST

What time do Tinordi/Gauthier clear waivers? Officially we are over the cap for the first time in a long time.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:42 am EST

The first 20 games or more will be a continuation of the preseason. I assume gallant is updating his line generator. Hijack basically scored a goal in the 3rd against Boston called an assist. Jones looks too small to me , but hopefully the coaches figure out what to do with the 2 of them. I wonder how long kappo and krappy will be on the top 2 lines. Let the juggling begin.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:33 am EST

Hospo, thought of you when I typed his name, $3.8mill is too much

mf

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:30 am EST

MF - Foligno, I think, is due 3.8 mill this year

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:30 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·13mIf there's a chance Sammy Blais also won't be ready for the Thursday/Friday games, I'd expect the #NYR to put him on IR. He only has to stay on for 7 days, and beginning tomorrow, every day counts toward the salary cap accrual process. Rangers need to save wherever they can.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:28 am EST

HUNT 9 goals in last 100 games, Gauthier 5 in last 96...No crying over Gauthier being gone....What's worse is the ineffective , lazy Krapshot back on the 2nd line.....Not that Vesey should be there either..How long will it take GG/Drury to realize they need to move LAFFY up or bring somebody else in???.....SCHNIEDER and JONES are gonna get abused in the 10 mins a night they get

Hospo

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:27 am EST

Nick Foligno on the waiver wire, rather have him as a 12th/13th forward than Hunt. The money is comparable. https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/f/foligni01.html

mf

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:17 am EST

Bartkowski released from his PTO…

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:16 am EST

Krapsnot back on the 2nd line. Wonder how long it’ll take tomorrow before GG starts juggling the lines.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:15 am EST

Jones with Schneider today meaning once again Hajek is in the pressbox. Demand a trade!!!

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:05 am EST

And FWIW I don’t have a problem with Hunt on the team. I do however have a problem with him in the top 6.

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:04 am EST

NYR 22-23: Here we go! STill think the NYRs will slip this year and Drury will be active at the trade deadline and its time to make the final push for a Stanley Cup... Colorado Avalanche wrote the script and that includes top first rounders becoming elite players

schneidw

Mon Oct 10 2022 10:03 am EST

What Hunt does consistently is hit something that cannot be said of Gauthier which is totally on Gauthier. He did hit much more frequently this preseason and not coincidentally stood out more than usual. If I’m GG and I consider him and Hunt as a tossup I’m leaning to the guy where hitting is a big part of what he brings to the table vs a guy who does that when he fears his job is on the line. And when you’re 6’4” 220 lbs and can skate well there’s no excuse for not being physical more consistently when little else in your game is working. Like she many other things however, hitting is a mindset not something you turn on and off on a whim (unless you’re Chris Kreider but he obviously brings plenty more to the table than just hitting).

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:52 am EST

vcp1994 - Consistently bad, true. Again, the guy can't hit the broadside of a barn door. I've never seen a guy with the wheels and tenacity he has do so little. Guy can't PK. He's got ZERO offense. Basically the only thing he does is hit. And we already have one of those guys eating up minutes in REAVES.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:50 am EST

I don't get the VESEY hate. He never lived up to expectations, but he's always been a very solid NHLer. Dude is a lot like Jesper FAST, who I'm still pissed about losing: He can play either wing position, has talent enough to score, but is very solid defensively, so he can help you on the PK or in your bottom six. I frankly thought he looked good with the Devils last season and was kind of surprised when he didn't get a deal over the summer. He's better than some of the scrubs they have in the lineup. VESY at $750K is a very good deal for the Rangers. Tough to get guys of his caliber at that price.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:29 am EST

Hunt is consistent within his small amount of what he does.. Gauthier isn't that's the difference.

vcp1994

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:26 am EST

TD Pure coach favouritism …

Rf4L

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:21 am EST

Waiving GAUTHIER over HUNT is the very definition of madness. FFS, can the goddamn Dryden HUNT era end? The dude literally sucks.

tdchi

Mon Oct 10 2022 9:05 am EST

Ranger player xxx removed from ice via stretcher with a suspected broken neck. GG in the postgame presser on xxx’s prognosis: “They’ll evaluate him tonight and tomorrow. He should be fine.”

Rf4L

Sun Oct 9 2022 10:13 pm EST

Thought the hit on Blais by Romanov was a clean shoulder to shoulder hit…The hit on Trocheck was dirty and Rangers should have responded….Reaves hits hard and often but don’t see him going after someone for a hit on a teammate very often…Maybe if he is out there when it occurs but otherwise no…..

PJ

Sun Oct 9 2022 9:57 pm EST

Happy the preseason over and looking forward to Tuesday night….Was very encouraged with Kakko and Chytil this preseason and hope the break out….Wasn’t thrilled with Trochek’s play but sure he will be ok….Happy for Vesey but he is hardly a top six player….The guy disappears for games at a time if I remember correctly….Many times you didn’t realize he was dressed…

PJ

Sun Oct 9 2022 7:48 pm EST

I really don't see the NYR's carrying 14 forwards. If they run with 23 that will leave them with zero cap space and the problems that come with it. I think the only reason Hunt is here is because of possible injury to BLAIS.

Rhet0ric

Sun Oct 9 2022 5:29 pm EST

So this is the scoop on the Cole situation: https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2022/10/09/ian-cole-michigan-native-accused-sexual-abuse-grooming/69550818007/

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 4:50 pm EST

STEVIE - Good for OTHMAN..unfortunately, he was about the only pre-NHL youngster that excelled in camp or competed for a position.....As for the "grooming"..THanks, I guess..Very sick stuff

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 4:45 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano RetweetedNew York Rangers@NYRangers·5hBrennan Othmann has been named this year's winner of the Lars-Erik Sjoberg Award, given annually to the top #NYR rookie in Training Camp as selected by the media.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 4:43 pm EST

Hospo if it’s this it’s not good….https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 4:11 pm EST

Looks like the Lightenng will be looking for a D-man..even if I don't know what "grooming" is in a legal sense....Katie Strang@KatieJStrangNHL is aware of the allegations of grooming and sexual assault involving Ian Cole. According to deputy commissioner Bill Daly, the league is looking into them.

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:57 pm EST

my count was wrong it’s 14 forwards 7 d men and 2 goalies right now which is 23 unless or until drury decides to go with less to save cap space.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:52 pm EST

So basically the Nyr have 4 top six forwards, the rest are bottom sizers so far . With kaapo and laffy hopefully graduating. Crabby krappy and mr chypil tbd . Don’t hold your breath.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:35 pm EST

Ranger47 - I agree with keeping him on the roster..just not playing him yet..He'll likely get his chance soon enough

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:29 pm EST

Hospo: In general I would agree with you. But Krav's in a different position of proving whether or not he can be a good NHLer long-term. So foe me the risk/reward of keeping him for a while versus trading him favors patience. Again, just my worthless and humble opinion....

Ranger47

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:26 pm EST

And, who knows, given an injury to BLAIS, maybe Krappy gets the chance on Tuesday for the 4th line over Huntsie against TB??

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:24 pm EST

Ranger47 - Of course we need a RW who can play (Great job Drury!) but IMWO you don't give 20 games to a player that was useless all pre-season and beat out fair and square by the water boy..Gotta make do with what we have first until they fail, then he gets his chance... unless they see the writing on the Wall, pun intended, and deal for a Wing sooner rather than later

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:20 pm EST

Was Bartkowski released?

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:18 pm EST

P.S. Especially since he's cap-friendly.

Ranger47

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:17 pm EST

rf4l: We could REALLY use another scoring RW on this team. I'd give Krav 20 games to see what shakes out, even if I get a lesser return if he's unsuccessful.

Ranger47

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:16 pm EST

Forwards (15) Zibanejad, Trocheck, Chytil, Carpenter, Goodrow, Kreider, Panarin, Kakko, Vesey, Kravtsov, Hunt, Reaves, Lafrenière, blais Defensemen (7): Fox, Trouba, Schneider, Lindgren, Miller, Jones, HajekGoalies (2): Shesterkin, Halák….1 still has to go by 5 pm tomorrow….

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:10 pm EST

Nils fetched a 1st and a 3rd/4th. If Drury is prepared to shop Krapsnot I gotta figure the ask is at least that. Nils was 28th overall pick; Krapsnot a 9th. Montreal seems like a logical destination and have Florida’s first next June. Would they part with it?

Rf4L

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:05 pm EST

I think if the goat goes to Hartford he will score. Not sure if he comes back to the nhl if he will. I think most of it is in his head .

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:55 pm EST

Can we get domi out of retirement I was bummed when they traded him Stupid rangers

vcp1994

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:54 pm EST

Seattle took Blackwell over Gauthier and Backwell (gee what a surprise) has bounced around in the league since. I’d honestly be surprised if he gets claimed. If not maybe he can rediscover his offense with the Pack. He did score 26 goals in 44 AHL games a few years back.

Rf4L

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:54 pm EST

Superman had bullets ricochet off his chest but when the bad guys ran out of bullets they would throw the gun at him, and he would duck.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:53 pm EST

Hospo: IMHO, What Vesey did is be able to say "I stood up for my teammate" without standing up for his teammate. Better he would do nothing and at least get the PP and let Reaves (or someone else retaliate later on). Better was to actuslly "fight" Romanov and hopefully get him off the ice with you.

Ranger47

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:48 pm EST

I did not watch the game..reeves who the Superman Reeves who died lololol. Yep why have a roster spot if he is the invisible man

vcp1994

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:21 pm EST

I think that is the thing that most forget about waivers is that they can’t claim a guy and send him to their farm team. If Gauth is claimed, he is locked on an nhl roster if they want to keep him.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:20 pm EST

@MollieeWalkerr·57sThe deal is for $750,000... #NYR <<<--- In reagrds to Vesey

Wildcard

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:11 pm EST

I know some teams were likely interested in Gauthier. But are the interested enough to be forced to waive another guy that they just had making their roster?

Wildcard

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:10 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·36mOn Gauthier: The Rangers have been trying to trade him for a while, but the rest of the league knew he was unlikely to make the #NYR roster and would ultimately be waived. Now we’ll see if anyone claims him, otherwise he’s ticketed for Hartford.…Rosters have to be finalized by 5pm tomorrow. Unless they have something else in the works (very possible), they could be considering starting the season with a full 23-man roster. If they do, I doubt it’s for very long.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:07 pm EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-agree-to-terms-with-jimmy-vesey/c-336212368

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:03 pm EST

If reaves isn’t going to answer a guy like noodles Romanov or someone on the other team, he’s not needed. First blais then the leap into throatcheck, and he doesn’t respond, goodbye. Especially in a preseason game, there’s no excuse.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 2:00 pm EST

Used to think Gauth would get claimed. Maybe last year. But I think he is safe for now.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:59 pm EST

HOSPO- Question 1: RYDAHL - Yes. Question 2: Othmann- Nope. Not 'til his team is eliminated.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:57 pm EST

Hopefully the goat doesn’t get claimed, and he gets up on the top 2 lines at Hartford and proves to himself and the Nyr he can play and score.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:56 pm EST

Romanov can really hit. But dude is gonna have to be careful. Not too many guys get latitude on the leap. But I really was impressed with his skill set. Hopefully, his ass stirs the straw and gets the ole blood pumping.

E

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:43 pm EST

COMark: They still might. But if Blais misses any time then they can do it later. Though I think if they were going to that they should have added him to the big list...lesses the chance they lose someone...and those waivers last for 30 days.

Wildcard

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:38 pm EST

Can RYDAHL play wing? Can OTHMAN be recalled from Juniors?? :)

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:27 pm EST

Ranger47 - Yeah, Vesey's response was pretty mild, but at least he went over there...My guess is GAUTHIER gets claimed by a bottom half team..maybe not...As for the waiver list, there's not a player there so far that fits what the Rangers need..Well, unless Todd Harvey is out for an extended time again...

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:26 pm EST

Was hoping Hunt would be cut also.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:14 pm EST

SO Far per Twitter it is: Nick Foligno (BOS), Mike Reilly (BOS), Chris Wagner (BOS), Anoton Blidh (COL), Mikhail Maltsev (COL), Emil Bemstrom (CBJ), Will Butcher (DAL), Devin Shore (EDM), Josh Leivo (STL), Philippe Myers (TB), Jansen Harkins (WPG).Michael Del Zotto (FLA), Alex Lyon (FLA), Gerald Mayhew (FLA), Chris Tierney (FLA), Pheonix Copley (LA), Nic Petan (MIN), Mason Shaw (MIN), Madison Bowey (MTL), Corey Schueneman (MTL), Mason Geertsen (NJ), Connor Ingram (NSH)Mark Jankowski (NSH), Roland McKeown (NSH), Julien Gauthier (NYR), Jarred Tinordi (NYR), Antonine Bibeau (OTT), Zack MacEwen (PHI), Aaron Dell (SJ), John Hayden (SEA), Michal Kempny (SEA), Henrik Borgstrom (WSH), Lucas Johansen (WSH).

Wildcard

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:11 pm EST

Gauthier and Tinrodi on waivers today...Neither are the best player at their position (IMHO) on waivers...list is massive

Wildcard

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:03 pm EST

Hospo: And for me even more disturbing after the Romanov hit on Trochek was seeing Vesey "retaliate" by doing almost nothing and drawing an equalizing penalty for the wimpy response!

Ranger47

Sun Oct 9 2022 12:49 pm EST

CM - If HUNTSIE can play 30 games as 2nd line RW why can't VESEY given the poor or non-existent alternatives (outside LAffy)??? That said, I hope you are right

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 12:45 pm EST

NYStranger- Whatever contract Vesey signs (Guessing $750) he will be waivable. The only guys who you can't waive/snd to the minors are the guys with NMC (No Movement Clauses) which are only given to the most highly sought after players. Vesey has no leverage, so he'll take the league minimum unless another team is offering more after seeing him this pre-season. So if he doesn't pan out or others take his spot- he can be waived. I doubt that happens though. He might have been getting looks on the top lines, but I doubt that is where he is going to play except in spot/injury situations.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 12:21 pm EST

IMWO, ROMANOV deservved more that a 5K fine for the leaping hit to TROUCHEK..At the least, somebody, anybody on the Rangers should have targeted him or somebody else later even if a exhibition game...Missed TROUBS last night...

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 11:46 am EST

My thing is that while most guys can play both, Lafreniere just looks happier when the puck is on his forehand off the rush. A lot of the time with Zibanejad the plays come off the rush. I’m not sure there are too many more guys who can strip a puck and head up ice as fast as he does. Maybe 25-30? Generously? But on the left he seems to lug the puck a lot more and is far more willing to cut. Just an observation. I did see them crosscut when they were together on a breakout to isolate a defender if Zibanejad couldn’t escape a back check. On those plays Lafreniere tried to take the puck more aggressively to the net. And that’s what he does on the left. Just an observation of his play but I do agree he can play both sides. I also just cannot help but love what Chytl can do. He gets the puck into the area between the circles and he can stick handle so well in the phone booth he just manages to find Lafreniere slipping in back door. It works for them. And Lafreniere LOVES to crash the net. Beeline

E

Sun Oct 9 2022 11:30 am EST

E/CM - I think LAFFY could easily grab that spot if the Rangers let him..He ia an all around player....Barring that, the Rangers need a RW who can go to the net AND SCORE (i.e., not the GOAT) to play on that line

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 11:17 am EST

HAHa. Esa Tikkanen is exactly who I think of when I look at what Vesey is doing this preseason. I sure hope the deal he gets will allow Drury to waive hime when he starts to suck a week into the regular season. So in all seriousness, I can't get all to excited about what the Rangers did in pre-season, but at the same time it often means nothing come the start of the regular season. Still we see the same old issues, and strange decision making. But while I have felt the very real possibility of the team having a slide back to reality this season, while still on an overall upward trend towards true Cup contention, I do think most players will only get better and more experienced which is what is needed more than anything. By the time this group peaks in a year or two (hopefully with one or more championships to show for it) the kids will be maturing right at the time when the vets will start to decline and some tough cap decisions will have to be made. So I am going to try and not micro analyze things until there is more data. At least until the real games start!! LOL

NYStranger

Sun Oct 9 2022 11:00 am EST

I think eventually, Kravtsov or Lafreniere will claim that spot. I stopped reading too much into pre-season after Esa Tikanen

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 9 2022 10:33 am EST

HOSPO: I think if Kakko is for real that’s a big step but I think they need another RW. They need a guy for Panarin that goes straight for the net. I still can’t get out the vision of NYR forwards hands on knees completely incapable of getting inside against TB. They need to get better here. Much better.

E

Sun Oct 9 2022 10:09 am EST

E/RF4l - Despite the preseason, I think the Rangers are a definite PO team but not a real Cup contender until they fix the Top 6 RW...The thing is, the Rangers have the talent now, with Laffy, Kakkao and CHYTL emerging, to be good at ES...And much better than that if they would put LAFFY on the top six..As is,the 2nd line production could be a problem all year--until the deadline deal.....Which will really help drive the Rangers is thier D IF HEALTHY..Every single one of the players SHOULD be better than last year..but then we get to Drury's other screw up and not finding a good partner for SCHNEIDER---fingers crossed on HAJAK..which may not happen for quite awhile

Hospo

Sun Oct 9 2022 9:50 am EST

RF: my thing has always been that the NYR are gonna live off their PP. when I look at the amount of talent on the PP and it’s history of high production? The offense should be okay. I’m more concerned about how much the defense was running around. But I’ve seen enough preseasons to know all those jitters about the state of a team don’t really translate all that much.

E

Sun Oct 9 2022 8:43 am EST

PO bubble team…

Rf4L

Sun Oct 9 2022 8:42 am EST

I know preseason is meaningless but I don’t think the Rangers shoddy play (except for a single game) should be tossed aside that quickly. The biggest concern? Lack of scoring and with that what else is new. It’s arguably worse now until/unless P and T figure things out. It’s also emphasized by the fact GG has offensive slugs like Vesey and Blais in the top 6. And if Sherkie comes back to earth the Rangers just may end up being a PO team. Hope this is my usual Ranger fan paranoia kicking in…

Rf4L

Sun Oct 9 2022 4:41 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·7hGallant said that Blais will be evaluated more tomorrow, but he seems confident it’s minor. “He should be fine.”

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:38 am EST

“Definitely nice to get the regular season going,” Adam Fox said. “Preseason’s good to work out the kinks, but you want the games to really matter. Obviously it’s exciting to be getting to that point now.”

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:37 am EST

Two hours before the puck dropped on Saturday’s preseason finale against the Islanders, Rangers coach Gerard Gallant repeated a mantra that is atop everyone’s mind during exhibition season.“I’m sure both coaches hope nobody gets hurt,” he said.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 3:36 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/08/nhlpa-looking-to-become-more-assertive-with-don-fehrs-replacement/

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 9 2022 1:15 am EST

Romanov hits like a truck. I thought the NYI overpaid but I see serious value in the guy. He’s gonna be a thorn in the side. As for what we’ve seen this off-season? I’m glad it’s over. I can’t take too much away from it. A lot of the veterans didn’t look like they were too keen on playing quick and hard. That’s true throughout the league. What I didn’t hope to see was Trochek just not able to accomplish the most rudimentary of tasks. I know he’s saying that he’s just getting comfortable but damn he has looked bad at times. I still am impressed with the yutes. Kakko is showing signs.

E

Sat Oct 8 2022 11:13 pm EST

Rf4L..yes I did, and I actually laugh at the Jays and their optimisim and of course their really stupid Home Run jackets. but I can't wait to see the Leafs CHOKE again...LOL :)

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:26 pm EST

Bob. It’s inexplicable. At least the Raptors prevailed a few years ago!!!

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:14 pm EST

What is it about those Toronto teams and playoffs? I was shocked when quit watching at 8-1 then tuned back in to find it 10-9 Seattle. What an epic choke job.

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:12 pm EST

Newf. Did you see the Blue Jays classic choke job today? OMG epic. Beyond depressing.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:56 pm EST

JAKE - I'm fine with Krappy staying, practicing, learning and getting ready..I'm no fan of VESEY...nor HUnt and GAUTHIER has showed squat for quite awhile..Honestly, it really doesn't matter to me, none of the four are good enough to be in TOP 9...it's pickig the best of the worst..well...unless you put PANARIN on RW and LAFFY in top six like he belongs..

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:48 pm EST

A friendly reminder that Sammy Blais has never played more than 40 games in a single season.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:40 pm EST

Kravstov might learn more hanging with Bread and practicing with team than going to Hartford but my main point was to not to sign Vesey he can’t score, skate or tough. Rather play goat full time than vesey

Jake0104

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:40 pm EST

Kravstov might learn more hanging with Bread and practicing with team than going to Hartford but my main point was to not to sign Vesey he can’t score, skate or tough. Rather play goat full time than vesey

Jake0104

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:18 pm EST

NEWFIE - Try being a Cleveland Browns fan! And my SF Giants sucked..I was hoping for redemption with the Rangers...still possible......Jake/RF$L - Sorry, Krappy's upside means little at the moment, he needs to earn a spot for the Rangers and his own good..He will get the chance but it shouldn't be at the start of the season..He should be the last choice right now...but...hopefully when, not if, he gets back in, he has a motor .....and a rocket up his ass.............As for right now, Vesey vs Gauthier vs HUnt for 2nd RW...or, like TDCHI predicted, GOODROW.....Another fine mess, Mr. Drury....I'm exaggerating a little..but there are some trouble spots on this team

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:11 pm EST

If Blais is out, I want Rydahl back up to replace him... but I never get what I want.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:06 pm EST

I just hope we have a real good season and go deep again in the PO's. This sports year for me so far has been a disaster.... CFL Esks/Elks..last place .MLB... Oakland A's, worst team in baseball....NFL...Vikings ...Cousins ,by far is the most OVER-PAID athlete in all 4 major sports, enough said. It only leaves The Rangers for me now. :)

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:02 pm EST

Jake. Agreed. Is Vesey truly better than Gauthier?? I’d say no.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:01 pm EST

Romanov = Martin = Flutterbuck = Johnson = Fat Lou’s asshole.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:00 pm EST

I wouldn’t sign Vesey. I would play Kravstov only cause he might have a big upside if he bombs upgrade at trading deadline

Jake0104

Sat Oct 8 2022 9:00 pm EST

Rf4l...yes, I've been known to" Screetch" a little in my day ...LOL

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:58 pm EST

Hospo...I agree on Schneider's partners so far...yuk ! and that we should just put Hajek there and be done with it.

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:58 pm EST

Newf. You know screech so you know lots.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:57 pm EST

Both of Romanov's feet left the ice when he made contact with Trocheck. It must be legal now.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:56 pm EST

BTW I agree with your concerns…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:56 pm EST

Rf4l...you picked up on that too eh ! let's face it ,I don't think he will have back to back seasons like last year but I'm not impressed so far.But right now I want to send Krapshot back to the KHL, so what do I know ?

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:56 pm EST

Hospo. Careful criticizing Saint Drury!!!

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:55 pm EST

I agree that my boy SCHNIEDER has not been good...why I have been so worried about his partner and wanted a decent vet (like BRAUN lst year) brought in...JONES, who does nothing for me, is a bad pairing for him..HAJAK is the best we got..It was DRURY that fell asleep on other potential D-men but signed Zeke Bartkowski.......Wasn't thrilled with anybody...If I was rating Vesey on this game alone I would have him sitting or worse..but the options are very, very limited

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:47 pm EST

Schneider has been horrible? Oh oh.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:36 pm EST

DCIGolfer Wrote everything I was gonna say. Let me add Schneider has been horrible Carpenter has played well could be an upgrade over Rooney. Miller for Norris

Jake0104

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:28 pm EST

Jones looks like he wants a spot. Trochek has made some suspect passes. Panarin is having a strong game basically solo. Kakko is finding the net which bodes well for this season. Blais out? Ugh. That is very worrisome potentially. Weak finish to the preseason. Is it Tuesday yet!? LGR!!!

DCIGolfer

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:25 pm EST

Comark. Whew

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:23 pm EST

RF- no

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:20 pm EST

.813 save percentage for Sherkie. Anyone worried??

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:19 pm EST

Filip Charmin 3 for 10 in the FO circle. Lol.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:12 pm EST

OTOH, nice snipe by KAKKAO!

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:10 pm EST

Romanov could have really hurt TROCHEK there..Lazy play by the Rangers all around..KAKKAO way too slow to be on a PK

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:03 pm EST

Not watching but top 6 (maybe top 5) playing but the team is mailing it in? Not encouraging. And this after GG bag skated them earlier in the week because they mailed it in.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:50 pm EST

Definitely mailing this game in. Almost zero high danger chances against Sorokin. Net that Blais was concussed on the reverse hit by Romanov.

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:45 pm EST

Geeeeeez,i hope Blais is not another Harvey...boy did I have high hopes for him way back when. let's hope it's just a safe move to keep blais out of this one.

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:44 pm EST

CM - I can't see CARPENTER not starting the season in NY...10-20 games after that? I don't know..Take RYDAHL and BLAIS off the 4th and it becomes almost stationary at times..I would really like to see RYDAHL in NY

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:40 pm EST

The Nyr definitely the non better team for the first 2 periods

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:31 pm EST

Carpenter finally looking like a player. He must know he’s on borrowed time.

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:21 pm EST

When REAVES is fresh, he can help this team on the ice without a doubt

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:20 pm EST

Reaves speed and Laffy’s dangle. Trying to stay positive. FFS about Blais. Hopefully precautionary.

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:19 pm EST

2 passes I’ve seen that give me some encouragement:?Kakko to Chytil on the PP and Trocheck to Bread just now!

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:13 pm EST

BTW, I like the way that TROUCHEK never passes up a chance to be a PITA

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:11 pm EST

I missed some...Blais (aka Todd Harvey) hurt again?? Just get through the rest of the game with no more injuries and leave it at that..Looks like a team sleepwalking and with a few lines playing their 1st games together...

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:10 pm EST

RF- where did you hear that? Btw- guessing Hunt and Gauthier weren’t dressed last two games to Hope out of sight out of mind re: waivers?

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:07 pm EST

Blais concussed. Gauthier may get his 8th life…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:06 pm EST

I hope the reason the Rangers look slow and disinterested is that they are waiting for the season. But I’m ready to turn to baseball!

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:04 pm EST

Is it dark at UBS or is the feed dark or am I old? Yes, I know there can be more than one answer to that question!

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:02 pm EST

Rhet- I agree, but I’m not a capologist. Not sure the impact on current cap. And if I’m Millers agent- he sees what we see, doubt he wants to sign anything at this point. His leverage will grow with each game.

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 7:00 pm EST

I know I'm biased, but the NYI's gear looks so lame.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:53 pm EST

2 zip? Lolol. Tuning up for a shit regular season start I see.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:53 pm EST

I would've signed MILLER to a long term extension, but what do I know?

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:53 pm EST

I was against playing fewer pre-season games but I’m now fully on board. I can’t keep my eyes open…

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:52 pm EST

IMO, Gauthier and Hunt will be on waivers. I would love for Carpenter to be sent down, but that will never happen.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:51 pm EST

Miller looks like a beast. He looks stronger and quicker.

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:44 pm EST

There is a lot of “don’t get hurt” stuff happening out there from the top players on both teams. No one is really taking any risks that appears to have made the teams. If the skill guys don’t have room they are getting rid of it quick and safe. Even the board battles look “gentlemanly”. I get it. No one wants to get hurt and no one wants to injury another player when the game doesn’t matter

Wildcard

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:40 pm EST

COMark: EAPN+ has just the one feed. You can select both, but it’s the same feed. The NYI on air guys said something about NYR fans joining the broadcast, so I imagine they are the only ones working it.

Wildcard

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:38 pm EST

No energy. Nothing worth watching so far. Except of course Barzal makes me second guess not taking him as a keeper

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:37 pm EST

4 sog 2 goals

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:32 pm EST

MILLER just doesn't look better this preseason, he looks bigger(ditto with LAFFY )...Big years coming for both

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:26 pm EST

Panarin appears to be playing right wing

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:26 pm EST

Stuck with Islanders feed. Anyone able to find Rangers feed on ESPN +?

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:24 pm EST

1 sog 1 goal

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 6:02 pm EST

VESEY on the 2nd line is all on DRURY..It was idiotic to think Krapshot would win that position..idiotic not to give LAFFY a chance there...and idiotic not to get a capable 2nd line RW...Oh well, it is what it is, and as of tonight..VESEY is the best option...Hope he gets more than one game to make his case....Can't see GOAT making the team..can only see him getting scooped up on waivers by somebody

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 5:45 pm EST

Goalie Dave Dryden, brother of Ken Dryden passed at the age of 81... RIP

mf

Sat Oct 8 2022 5:29 pm EST

Hopefully not Gauthier or Kravtsov. It's a business decision, can't teach size and speed, there are plenty of Hunt's.

mf

Sat Oct 8 2022 5:17 pm EST

So……..Who gets put on waivers tomorrow? Gauthier? Kravtsov? Hunt?

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:24 pm EST

Oh. Misread the pairings. Nonetheless I stand by that post…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:23 pm EST

BTW the Fox/Schneider pairing we saw a fee times last year and it was solid. Don’t be surprised to see that pairing in the future. When Lindgren gets traded….

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:18 pm EST

Agreed on Rhydal. He had an assist last night in his first AHL game. I think it’s a matter of when not if he’s recalled.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:12 pm EST

Tinordi - Bartkowski.... Nothing wrong with that pairing... I wouldn't even want to see that duo in the AHL.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:10 pm EST

Don't bring up Rydahl, It's still a sore spot.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:08 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·4mHere’s how the #NYR will look tonight:Kreider - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Trocheck - VeseyLaf - Chytil - GoodrowBlais - Carpenter - ReavesMiller - FoxJones - SchneiderTinordi - Bartkowski IgorHalak

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 4:02 pm EST

RF: I concur. Based on what Ive seen in this preseason, I would be cutting Carpenter. But I wouldn't have any of those other guys. Id have Rhydal who I think is better than all of them.

E

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:59 pm EST

The solution is to move him to center or right defense :)

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:56 pm EST

Rhet. I’m convinced neither Laffy or management want Laffy on his off wing…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:54 pm EST

Yeah, I'd prefer him in the bottom six myself. Flip him with Laffy and done.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:50 pm EST

Vesey on the 2nd line likely means it’ll suck again.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:46 pm EST

Projected lineup tonight... Kreider – Zibanejad – Kakko....Panarin – Trocheck – Vesey....Lafreniere – Chytil – Goodrow....Blais – Carpenter – Reaves.... The defense will be total chaos??

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:43 pm EST

I was kind of hoping that Gauthier and Hunt would get one last showing before they were put on waivers. No biggie there. I'm guessing Vesey in on the 2nd line tonight. He'll probably be signed officially by tomorrow.

Rhet0ric

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:36 pm EST

I hope Gauthier makes it too

mf

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:01 pm EST

Krapsnot has made the team too because Drury won’t risk putting him on waivers. Between Hunt Gauthier Crapentar and Vesey I’ve no idea. Based on what I’ve seen Crapentar is an easy cut. After that it’s a tossup but I still cling to the hope Gauthier makes it. The right wingers on the top 2 lines tonight are KK and ???

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 2:56 pm EST

Tinordi Jones and Bartkowski all dressing tonight. No Trouba Lindgren or Hajek. I think the first 2 are banged up and Hajek has made the team probably as the 7th dman but hopefully as the 6th unless Jones sparkles tonight. If not he get farmed out and one of T and B is the 7th dman.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 2:45 pm EST

Kravtsov not in tonight’s lineup

tlats

Sat Oct 8 2022 2:41 pm EST

https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/rangers-lineup-no-vitali-kravtsov-isles/

Puckyou

Sat Oct 8 2022 2:40 pm EST

Kratsov not in lineup tonight. No surprise he played tentatively-Oh boy. Looks like the 13th forward going into the season.

Puckyou

Sat Oct 8 2022 2:01 pm EST

TD: If you need to push the draft until Monday, it's fine with me. In the meantime, how do we set "our keepers?" t/y

mf

Sat Oct 8 2022 1:01 pm EST

Puck. Early April but Flint is considered a strong team that will be in the running for the OHL championship…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 12:40 pm EST

Yeah, guys. Sorry, my job(s) has/have put me through the ringer these past three months. Like 60 hour work-weeks with one and then the other is another 14 or so hours. And then yet another is a sporadic five or six hours every other week or so. Between them and feeding my functional alcoholism, it's leaving my brain a bit fried. Kept meaning to sit down and shake out the draft all week. Blinked once and it's fucking Saturday...and I'm still working. Sigh...Oh well, I have Monday off though!

tdchi

Sat Oct 8 2022 12:38 pm EST

Thanks, HOSPO- I thought I saw it somewhere, but then I saw Offline draft and couldn’t find it! TD- thanks, no worries- appreciate your efforts!

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 12:17 pm EST

If Othman’s junior team doesn’t make the playoffs, how soon could he be available to NYR?

Puckyou

Sat Oct 8 2022 11:22 am EST

ColoradoMark and ALL RFC Fantasy GMs: I'm working on getting set up for a 1 p.m. draft tomorrow, Oct. 9. Kinda stumbling through setting things up now.

tdchi

Sat Oct 8 2022 11:18 am EST

CM- On the FHL League page, to the right, it says the draft begins tomorrow at 1 PM EST...

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 11:17 am EST

Perfect description of krabby krappy.. “he was still playing kids hockey,” …, and he thinks he should be the rw on the top 2 lines in his mind…he needs to mature physically and grow up mentally…as do most of the youngsters….that’s probably why coaches like gallant favor older guys even though they have less talent…they have more nhl experience and understanding…

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:55 am EST

Panarin's words are nice but should mean nothing because there are 22 other players Krapshot's game and placement affects..It's all about putting the best team on the ice..The Rangers should definitely keep Krapshot on the roster, continue working with him and give him another shot when he has earned it..or the other guys that have beat him out, drop the puck.....or an injury..Just like last year when he quit, the chance will quickly be there for him...So, him staying and still trying is the key..

Hospo

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:44 am EST

PANARIN: Year 4 and another borderline AHL RW on his line... this getting absolutely insane for NYR organization to not find a RW for Panarin despite drafting 2 in the top 10... painful. Sure hoping that P Kane forces his way to MSG and CHI retains salary and values Kravtsov (wishful thinking)...

schneidw

Sat Oct 8 2022 10:30 am EST

Glad we are close to playing for real. I am interested in seeing how the club responds this year, Gallant’s second. I cannot forget the weird way the guy has been canned the last 2 times. Having great success, team taking a step back and he is taking a taxi to the airport. I would not be surprised if the Rangers do not match the point total from last year. Still……why did the guy get canned the way he did? There has been nothing I have found in the way of reporting of him fighting his bosses or issues in the locker room. Just seems odd to me. Hopefully, the leadership in the room has everything under control and there are not meltdowns. I do think that the key this season is to play in the opponents’ zone more with more puck possession.

Bob

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:50 am EST

Unmm, what’s going on with the Wall FHL live draft?

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:32 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/07/rangers-artemi-panarin-helping-vitali-kravtsov-develop-as-mentor/

Wildcard

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:29 am EST

@MollieeWalkerr·26sThe main focus for Vitali Kravtsov, Artemi Panarin believes, should be on gaining confidence. So Kravtsov is making a point to stay off social media. “He told me to,” Kravtsov told The Post. On Kravtsov’s growth with the help of Panarin’s mentorship <<<<<---- This is why Krav is stuck to Bread...and even to start the season might be a good idea to play them together. personal feelings aside, having Krav find his game at the NHL level is good for the team.

Wildcard

Sat Oct 8 2022 8:08 am EST

Othmann in a 4 way tie for first in OHL scoring.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 8 2022 3:18 am EST

“I think he’s ready to work right now, two years ago, not really, he was still playing kids hockey,” Panarin told The Post after practice on Friday. “Right now, he understands everything. Sometimes, for me, it’s hard — like when you lose your confidence. Look at last playoffs, the last few games, the last few games I lost confidence. But for a young guy, it’s tough. He’s a strong man. Mentally, he is strong.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 8 2022 12:11 am EST

RF: nothing can be done with you. That fact is well established. But alas failure for you to understand my backhanded sarcasm would mean I’m really slipping.

E

Sat Oct 8 2022 12:01 am EST

JFC- Totally agree on CHYTL and the Top 6 RW ...You keep LAFFY on 3rd line you are guaranteeing the RW clusterfuck all season and guaranteeing the need for giving up assetts at the Deadline..for KANE

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:35 pm EST

Jfc31 interesting observation about feces and kraby. I agree with you it's funny oh well better then watching the news lolol

vcp1994

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:34 pm EST

E I do not Neh Neh. Only ZBAD panarin, kreider and chytil and all defenseman and all forwards lololol

vcp1994

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:43 pm EST

JFC. LOL/what a loser am I ….yes.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:40 pm EST

E. Is that post directed at me? Or OTBG? My lone deceased gramma? My paranoia?

Rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:06 pm EST

Bob...that's spicey PORK man...come on the guy is a legend ....LOL :)

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Oct 7 2022 8:58 pm EST

I dont want to be one of your scouts. But you complain about the physicality on every player on the team. In that time it never occurs to you and is well documented the time of team philosophy I believe in. The way I think you win big games. But I'm also a realist about how guys play, what they do, and how they make their living. You dismiss 80% of the NHL on broadband criteria. But that's just what you do and that's who you are. I contend that it isn't realistic. Every one is not too small, soft, and weak. They just aren't. So I realize that I cannot survive in your scouting staff but Im not sure too many can.

E

Fri Oct 7 2022 8:36 pm EST

Only the Rangers could put a guy on a fucking PTO on the 1st line and not give their #1 overall a sniff there, even though he had success tgere last season. Only the Rangers…a PTO player, not your #1! 4 days before the season starts….its hilarious!

JFC31

Fri Oct 7 2022 8:32 pm EST

Hospo - Remember that beautiful backhand goal that Chytil scored in the playoffs? The way he got the space he needed was by basically slamming his ass into Brendan Smith and knocking him backwards so he couldn’t strip the puck. Yeah, Chytil definitely raised his physical play and I see no reason why he’d not LEARN from that since it was a big part of him being successful in the PO’s.

JFC31

Fri Oct 7 2022 7:58 pm EST

LOL can we get Mr. Whipple and Sam Breakstone in a cage match?!! My money's on that sour cream bastard. I am loving all the back and forth here. I still don't get the games…being locked out because of Frontier vs Optimum is just ridiculous in this day and age.

NYStranger

Fri Oct 7 2022 7:29 pm EST

The Chinaman is not the issue!

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 7:24 pm EST

E when I buy the rangers you won't be one my scouts lol

vcp1994

Fri Oct 7 2022 6:03 pm EST

Chytl isn't "physical" but he keeps his space on the ice. His play has exploded in maturity since 1-year ago.

E

Fri Oct 7 2022 6:00 pm EST

ON CHYTL...I usually like going on the most recent performance of a player and CHYTL in last years POs was far from soft....Far from a physical beast, but he didn't play scared or backed away from contact and actually went to high traffic areas....Comes with confidence I guess..I'm toally fine with him playing that way this season

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 5:13 pm EST

So the 2 goalies at Hartford will be Mr. Spicy Chicken and Broccoli and the Canadian WJC gold medal winner? Not bad. Leaves Lindbom for Jacksonville. Or is it Limbomb?

Bob

Fri Oct 7 2022 5:09 pm EST

I have been saying for quite some time chytil is too soft..can't take a hit. Stay puff marshmallow man.i I think he should try tennis.

vcp1994

Fri Oct 7 2022 4:31 pm EST

Rf47 he definitely gets whippled whenever someone comes close to him, he goes boom down to the ice . Maybe mr chypple.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 4:12 pm EST

Don't squeeze the Charmin.

HellsKitchen

Fri Oct 7 2022 4:10 pm EST

Don’t hit the charmin!

Rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 4:00 pm EST

charmin... Stevie: For those old enough to remember, perhaps we can now nickname Chytil Mr Whipple!

Ranger47

Fri Oct 7 2022 3:37 pm EST

Tdchi and if he doesn’t? Please don’t blame past injuries or the ones he will probably get this season unfortunately because of himself mostly. … charmin…

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 2:41 pm EST

Blues Klim KOSTIN, a big, hard-hitting Russian winger, on waivers. Jordan MARTINOOK, who was a pretty important part of the Canes last year, is as well...probably for cap reasons...And the Rangers sadly didn't claim Lias ANDERSSON.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 2:39 pm EST

Actually noticing that about CHYTIL. He's looked very good in pre-season. I mean, part of it is his linemates...but he was looking good with VESEY and KRAVT as well. Been saying this for three years now, but this could be the year we see him break out.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 2:05 pm EST

Show me ….wafj… 5 years and counting…Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hLast guy on the ice today — by a significant margin — is Filip Chytil. He’s definitely been one of the standouts in this camp. Seems loose but also very focused, if that makes sense. #NYR

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 2:04 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·59mJonny Brodzinski has cleared waivers and can now be assigned to @WolfPackAHL

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 1:14 pm EST

Ranger47 - i think the Rangers are committed for now with CHYTL as C...but I expect GOODROW to get at least half of the FO draws (CHTYL has to take some to try and get better)

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 1:13 pm EST

BLAIS-CARPENTER-REAVES will make other teams clamor for pole position on the hot tub and/or ice bath...but I see that line giving up A LOT of goals.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 1:11 pm EST

Ranger47 - Welp, I think some folks here have said that...myself included...but that's one of those things where I've never seen even a slight inclination by either GALLANT or QUINN before him to move CHYTIL to wing. He might end up with GOODROW on his wing so that he doesn't need to take faceoffs...but I don't think there's much chance at this point of him moving to wing.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 12:48 pm EST

Since so many here have said that Chytil belongs on the wing, any chance that with Goodrow playing on the line they use G as the 3rd line center?

Ranger47

Fri Oct 7 2022 12:38 pm EST

The NYR's to get down to 22, I'm expecting GOAT and Hunt to be sent down. IMO, Vesey and Kravstov will get the final 2 roster spots. I'd say it's 50-50 that Gauthier get's taken off waivers. In regard to BOYKO: I'm pretty sure he's on an ATO in Hartford.

Rhet0ric

Fri Oct 7 2022 12:22 pm EST

Larry Brooks@NYP_BrooksiePractice lines intact from yesterday. Kakko with 20-93; Vesey with 10-16; Goodrow with 13-72; Carpenter between Blais and Reaves; Kravtsov with Hunt and Gauthier.

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 12:19 pm EST

RF4L - Don't fucking get me started on LINDBOM. When some fans were crying and whining about goddamn Gordie CLARK getting pushed to the side and then kicked to the curb, that is the draft pick I think about. I feel bad for bagging on the kid, because he did have a tough time with injury...but the fucking Rangers drafted him based on ONE FUCKING TOURNAMENT. ONE!! That's it. And it was a U18 tourney too. AND on top of it all, they already had SHESTERKIN looking like the real-deal at the time. LINDBOM was never good enough to justify his draft spot...not even in that tourney. He was ALWAYS a project. Really should'a been drafted AT BEST in the mid-third round. Probably more like fourth round...even going down the line of tenders that WERE drafted, he wasn't even as good as some of them...Isle's SKAREK was decent that year. Blues' HOFER too. DOTSAL on Anaheim. LINDBOM wasn't as good as those guys THEN. And they all went mid-third to late fourth round. Small chance the Oilers would've taken him instead of RODRIGUE late in the second...but more likely? The Rangers would've had AT LEAST one more crack at LINDBOM in the third. Probably two(they picked RAGNARSSON, who never signed and Joey KEANE, now in the KHL). But I would wager almost anything that they could'a gotten him at 101st, where they nabbed also-not-signed Nico GROSS...the guys they left on the table probably won't be superstars, but you've got guys with a very solid NHL career ahead of them: Jack DRURY is the most painful, but also Ryan McLEOD...both centers...PERUNOVICH and FEHERVERY are both regular NHL defensemen now(both lefties too, incidentally)...Adam GINNING and Akil THOMAS will both be in the NHL eventually...Sean DURZI, Kevin BAHL(a 6'6 230 pound leftie defenseman) are all considered very good prospects, as is Calen ADDISON...KIRILL MARCHENKO hasn't arrived yet, but he's another rather sure thing. ..again, not the end of the world...but just a very, incredibly stupid pick for so many damn reasons. I will be very surprised if LINDBOM isn't on a plane back to Europe after wintering over in Greenville. Just a good opportunity pissed away on that guy.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:52 am EST

Opps, that post was for you Hospo. RYDAHL didn't dress.

rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:51 am EST

TD: Yes, for sure that win is encouraging. Scoring it was mostly career AHLers but Korczak apparently had a nice set-up (Whelan had an open net to pot his goal into) and Pajuniemi who's NHL career clock is ticking VERY loudly, had a goal and an assist. I like that Garand apparently came in half way thru the game and shut the door on the opposition. I have high hopes for this kid...

rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:47 am EST

Roster is missing the 2 PTO's .. Vesey and Bartkowski ...a big thanks for coming out to Bartkowski...I think they will sign Vesey...> Hunt

sjw

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:42 am EST

Stevielegs - BOYKO is on a PTO in Hartford. I think he'll probably go back to juniors for an overage year if he's eligible...otherwise, he'll be on a bus with Lindsieve...JBRO was on waivers last night and provided he's not claimed in the next hour or so, he'll probably be sent to Hartford. Always a chance they could keep him hanging around...By my count...and assuming KRAVTSOV will not be cut, we have 11 forwards, five defensemen and two goalies...that's 18. We've got the following fighting for two forward spots: GAUTHIER, HUNT, VESEY, CARPENTER. And the following vying for two defense spots: TINORDI, JONES, HAJEK, BARTKOWSKI. So there are your 26. Gotta imagine BARTKOWSKI, if he's signed, will go to Hartford. And it looks as thought at least CARPENTER is a lock. I would say its all but assured GOAT will be waived. Can't see him beating VESEY and if VESEY ain't signed, I can't see GG waiving HUNT. But I do think HUNT will be down in Hartford to start, barring an injury tomorrow...I also again have a strong feeling TINORDI stays with the team if they keep seven D. And I don't see them waiving HAJEK, so my odd man out is JONES...even though that doesn't seem to be the consensus among the Ranger beats...In my mind, that's really the only shoe to drop right now, which is whether to waive TINORDI or HAJEK or send JONES down.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:04 am EST

RF4L - The Pack won, I thought you would be happy!! But seriously, who did the scoring for the Pack? I hope RYDAHL can shove past the disappointment of being sent down and gets off to a good start there

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 10:03 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·39sJacob Trouba is back on the ice today for the #NYR, but still no Ryan Lindgren (lower body). He skated on his own this morning and Rangers say they expect him to play Tuesday.

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:56 am EST

The Pack beat the Islanders farm team last night 5 4. Lindblom started the game and let 4 goals in on 12 shots. Garand came in partway thru and stoppd all 9 shots he faced for the win. Why did Squishface and OTBG waste a 2nd rounder on Lindblom. They did the same with Halversieve a few years before that.

Rf4L

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:27 am EST

I count 26 players on the nhl Nyr site right now including Talyn Boyko a 19 year old 6’7” goalie, tinordi, j bro. With those 3 off the list they are down to 23 ? That means if drury is starting the season with 23 then goat and jones are on the nhl roster….are they missing anyone in that roster display? ….https://www.nhl.com/rangers/roster?icmp=int_web_nyr_roster_lp_subnav

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 9:03 am EST

TDCHI - That's not "the" point, it's only your point...Not gonna argue the past in TB because it's a moot issue...But before getting 4 good lines to roll in NY, you have to have the first three good enough...To me, Goodrow does that better than anybody with CHYTL and LAFFY for now (Vesey on the top 6 is another story but it is what it is becasue of DRURY and their counting on Krappy for 2 years in a row))...THe Rangers now have BLAIS and CARPENTER/RYDAHL on a 4th line that, even without the useless and soon to be gone GAUTHIER, has good depth and alternatives in REaves, Krappy and Hunt..If KRAPPY was anywhere near ready to play top 9 (or they get somebody else) I could see, but still not agree with, the way you want to use GOODROW

Hospo

Fri Oct 7 2022 7:12 am EST

And the post-script on this: The Rangers during the playoffs were most effective when GOODROW centered fourth line. That was when they were at their best. So one way of looking at it is that this expensive guy is playing fourth line. Better way of looking at it is that the Rangers have four very strong lines and will manhandle opponents that don't.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 7:09 am EST

Y'all are bigtime missing the point in GOODROW. Third line? Fourth line? Try this: It didn't matter in Tampa WHAT line you were on because COOPER rolls four. The guy doesn't make a habit of skating his top guys 20-plus minutes. Everyone settles between 13 and 18. There isn't a slug in the lineup. That should be the overarching point...what does GOODROW on a line with BLAIS and GAUTHIER mean? Well it means you have three players that have the ability to do what a prototypical fourth line does: Bang, forecheck, play defensive...but also a line that can cycle the puck and put sustained offensive pressure on the opponent...Not that it's the NHL, but I do this with my beer league team all the time and it gives teams fits because they will typically roll all their weakest skaters onto one line. And guess what? That's stupid...so why have a line that's only goal is to get pinned in its zone and plaster people? It's pointless...John Cooper is one of those coaches that gets that and he's got two cups to show for it.

tdchi

Fri Oct 7 2022 3:53 am EST

“ Kaapo Kakko skated on the top line with Chris Kreider and Mika Zibanejad, which bumped Jimmy Vesey down to the second unit alongside Artemi Panarin and Vincent Trocheck. Barclay Goodrow slotted into the right-wing spot on the third line with Alexis Lafreniere and Filip Chytil, while Vitali Kravtsov was demoted to the fifth line, next to Dryden Hunt and Julien Gauthier.”…

Stevielegs

Fri Oct 7 2022 3:31 am EST

Nails , hammer, ant?…. https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/ryan-carpenter-getting-shot-to-stick-with-rangers/

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:38 pm EST

BOB - We do recollect Goodrow's time with TB differently but I forget a lot of things these days...Anyways, I'll agree with you 100% that GOODROW should not be a 2nd liner but obviously totally disagree that he should be a 4th liner on this team..In either event, I think he could nicely compliment and help Laffy and Chytl play their games if the that is what GG goes with

Hospo

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:26 pm EST

Bob: Stop..the entire world knows that the 3rd line in Tampa was Gourde, Coleman, and Goodrow...hell it was talked about as the best 3rd line in the NHL. He wasnt "moved up for injuries" He was on the 3rd line in San Jose, then he was on the third line in Tampa...he played top 9 minutes both playoff runs and his full season there (short due to covid but still full) and even if he played top 9 minutes just becsaue injuries...guess were he played regularly? The top 9. You cant average top 9 minutes when you play the 4th line regularly....jsut accept that he played in the top 9 all year and in back to back playoff runs...that ended with Cup wins. You cant argue that fact...its a fact...set in stone. No way around it. Cant dance...its not an opinion...its a fact. SO don't give me this "What caouses you to react to someones opinion" crap...an opinion is if you think he deserved to be on the 3rd line there...but he was on it. An opinion is if you think he is better than other guys not he Rangers to be above the 4th line or not. But the fact is that he was on the 3rd in Tampa for back to back cup wins...and you cant call that my opinion...becsaue I cited the actual ice times he played in comparison to the other forwards on the team.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:15 pm EST

I think it make sense to wait at least for the second period of regular season game 1 to absolutely trash Krappo and determine he's worth less than a bag of pucks signed by Kent-Erik Andersson. I mean really. The kid is trying to redeem himself, and feeling his way a long way from home. If he's a total schmuck, there will be plenty of time to tar and feather him and put him on a rail back to Putinville. A little due process would be the better choice. Maybe a period or two to prove who he is? How about a thirty minute benefit of the doubt.

punchrolfe

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:14 pm EST

Exactly what is it that causes you to react this way to someone else’s opinion? Do other folks posts make you that emotional? Goodrow was a 4th liner, PKer and was moved up due to injuries and such. Spotted at the end of games as a defensive move when they were ahead. As with others, your “cut the crap” type responses are not going to cause me to change my opinion. It was my opinion that the Rangers were not good enough when Fast was playing top 6, and I feel the same about Goodrow.

Bob

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:03 pm EST

Bob: I am not sure what world you looked up Goodrow in...but he was not not he Tampa 4th line. Lets take a look. in 19-20 he played just 8 regular season games, and for those yes, he was getting 4th line minutes. 12th in total ice time per game among forwards with 12:25 per and 15th per game at even with 15:18. But the playoffs that year? 7th in total forward ice time per game with 18:15 and 6th at even with 15:18. The next year 2020-2021 he was 9ths in total ice time among forwards with 15:07 and 8th in even strength ice time with 12:39...the playoffs, 8th in overall ice time at 17:05 and 4th yes FOURTH overall in even strength ice time with 14:59 per game. He was a top 5 even strength forward in the scond of back to back cup runs int he post season, and in the top 9 for even strength the entire season...and going all the way back to the first cup run where again he was top 9....and top 9 across the board for ice time. Thats not a 4th line player...no matter who you cut it. When you are top 9 in ice time, that means you are a top 9 forward. When you are getting the 4th most even strength ice time among al forward in the playoffs for the team that wins the cup...you are not a 4th line player. SO lets just dispense with the crap that the Rangers cant win the cup with Goodrow off the 4th line...the lightning did it in back to back years...you can not argue that fact. Now him not he top line the entire year, then you have a point...but clearly during the playoffs he can play heavy minutes and not hurt the team. But to say he cant be above the 4th line shows a total lack of acceptance of the truth...he has done it...

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 9:42 pm EST

If Goodrow is a regular on any line other than the 4th line, the Rangers are not winning the cup. If he is on the 4th line and being moved us situationally, fine. That was his role in Tampa and should be his role here.

Bob

Thu Oct 6 2022 9:23 pm EST

TDCHI -GG damn well better not stash GOODROW on the 4th line!..This is a guy good enough to play the 2nd and 3rd lines on the Stanley Cup Champions..No way has he decomposed to where he is only good enough for collecting 4 million a year as a full time 4th liner on the powerhouse Rangers.....The guy can do a little bit of everything and is a perfect 3rd liner who can move up or down (when trailing big time),,while also getting PK time..Yeah, he will likely move up when VESEY fails...but that's DRURY's fault for again fucking up the RW position...As a start, he will be a really good line-mate for the more skilled CHYTL and LAFFY (if the Rangers refuse to move him up)..I'm looking forward to that line if it comes to pass.....As for CARPENTER, again, I see him as A Jarret Stool type..Targetted by the coach to bring in something (PK? and Grit) he wants more of....Will he deliver? I don't know, I haven't seen evidence for it, but he will get the chance at the start of the season.. just don't think he will have an extremely long leash.....Do the Rangers keep 13 or 14 forwards? I think Vesey (as top 6), Carpenter (4th line) and Krappy..are a given..but Reaves can't and shouldn't play every night so you might need Hunt as a 14th ..(I think GOAT is Toast)..Also, odds are some forward gets hurt within a week

Hospo

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:23 pm EST

I **KINDA** get what GALLANT is doing with CARPENTER, but I think to say it's just because he's a center is missing a bit of the story...In reality, Barclay GOODROW should be our fourth-line center. In reality, he should be flanked by some combination of REAVES, BLAIS and GAUTHIER. But I no more believe he'll leave GOODY on fourth than I believe my cat will start reciting Shakespeare. He wants to have the option to move GOODY to first and second line, and CARPENTER gives him that option. He also absolutely chowed PK time in Chicago(though ironically, GG didn't use him that much on the PK in vegas)...So I suspect he's also an insurance policy if VESEY gets cut...or vice versa...The strange thing is, he's not even that good at faceoffs. And really, what I feel I'm looking at is an older, slower Dryden HUNT...again, my choices for the three forwards to make the team would be VESEY, KRAVT and GAUTHIER, with RYDAHL a very close fourth...but hi, it's reality here. CARPENTER is going to get the nod over one of VESEY and GOAT, and I'm pretty sure it'll be at the behest of GOAT dancing on the waiver wire.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 4:17 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·3hWas today's ramped up #NYR practice a result of last night's loss?Gallant: "Being mad doesn’t do you any good. We want to get ready. We haven’t had a whole lot of big skates. This was good timing for it."He then joked, "(The players) sort of pick the spots and I jump on them"

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 4:16 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·3hGG acknowledged part of the reason for sending Gustav Rydahl to the AHL was because he's waivers exempt.He added: "We liked everything he brought. For a guy we didn't know at all, I was very impressed with him. He might be a guy that's going to see some time up here."

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:27 pm EST

rf4L: Panrain used to play RW...but I think that holds his point totals down a tad. SO if I was going to move anyone over it would be him. As for Krav...again, the one thing he did was go to places on the ice GG likes to see guys go.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:27 pm EST

Carpenter is the next mykegg . I doubt he’ll be a carpenter bee probably just a carpenter ant. Rydahl will get that job eventually. I’m still looking for motte over a few Nyr such as hunt , the goat, et al ( I left Cheetos out but he and krappy should be good trade fodder )

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:24 pm EST

Some random thoughts: 1) Krapsnot can't go down without being put on waivers first, hence the dilemma here. Unless something changes drastically between now and next week, GG and company are looking at a potential blowout here with Krapsnot. His play in 4 pre-season games hardly warrants a spot in the top 12, let alone in the top 6. But how does he react if he's placed where he currently deserves to be placed? An early season shitshow will reduce his value to a bag of used pucks but if that's where this krapsnot show is headed, so be it and let's get it done sooner or later - don't need this dragging through half of the season. 2) Laffy isn't moving up because (I think) either he or management (or both) don't want him on right wing and he's not about to bump one of Kreider and Panarin. 3) A possible solution IMO is move Panarin to the first line which means Kreider moves to right wing and promote the kid line to number 2. This means you have a nearly $6,000,000 third line centre but if that makes the team better overall so be it. 4) I vote for Hajek for the 6th spot on defense - the slagging he continually is subjected to by Rangers 'fans' is despicable. I want him to make it and thrive as much to see those assholes eat crow as much as for the player himself.

rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:24 pm EST

Wild…True but I am pointing out he did not have a good camp by any measure…Yet seems to have made the team going in…..

PJ

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:07 pm EST

PJ: Gautier and Vesey don't really belong in the conversations...they don't win draws. So they were in a different battle, than Carpenter was in reality.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:01 pm EST

Agree Carpenter will have a short leash….Has done nothing to earn this spot….Rydaul, Gauthier and Vesey have all been better….

PJ

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:45 pm EST

Rhet: IN regard to Carpenter...I think if he doesnt find that switch, I think he will end up traded for a bag of pucks or in the stands.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:07 pm EST

This is a rhetorical question, but what has Carpenter done all camp long that he deserves s roster spot? Being GG's boy? Is that all it takes? Must be nice. I hope he turns it on once the season starts.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:59 pm EST

As always the first 20 games will shake things out.. last year Blais got hurt and it became apparent that Lundqvist was not ready nor Nemeth or Tinotdi were 3rd pair regulars ... Injuries are inevitable and Rydhal will be back.. IMO if Jones is not starting then he needs to go to Hartford and play major mins.. PP, SH can't be sitting .. again injuries will open a door at some point....Kravtsov would best be served with the same in Hartford, first line minutes PP time, get used to the NA game.. but sadly that is not possible because once again the kid ( agent) have painted themselves into a corner ably assisted by the Rangers ...

sjw

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:57 pm EST

Hospo: WIth Rydahl...I saw GG say a couple times that they don't really know him, but was impressed. I think part of the issue is that they don't know what he is able to do in all situations. Not enough camp and pre season to see enough I would think, at least in that regard. So going o the AHL and getting more game time in front of scouts and coaches in Hartford, to see his strengths and weaknesses in NA may be part of the plan to get to know him better so they know how they can deploy him. I would be shocked if he was not the first call up...and that in part could be due to his waiver status. What hits him a bit now, helps him later. He may not be playing quite as good as say JBro but get the call becsaue he can be sent right back down.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:37 pm EST

Great to see KAKKAO up to Top 6 where he belongs for this team.....we'll see how long....LAFFY belongs there to....GOODROW will be a good linemate for him (and CHYTL) in the interim.......No prob with BLAIS on the 4th line..he'll probably play himself up the lines game by game....Really liked what I saw of RYDAHL, with him taking the ballsy risk to come over here at 28, it is a shame to see him sent to the AHL when he outperformed a number of likely roster players ..But, it was preseason and I understand the waiver thing....There will be injuries and sluggish performance and with him, likely just a matter of when not if we see him back...

Hospo

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:24 pm EST

I kinda liked Joona KOPPANEN. But alas...no room.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:23 pm EST

Man, seeing Keith KINKAID on waivers sent me into a brief fit of galaxy brain...after watching HALAK get banged like a gong last night, I kinda wonder whether paying this guy $1.5 million was really worth it, when there's a guy like Keith KINKAID who is just about as good on waivers for half the cost. Coulda saved $750K in cap and gotten a goalie only a half step down...what is that $750K gonna buy us in terms of HALAK? Three more regular season wins? Four? Would we be better off spending that money on a player who could help in terms of depth? Thought maybe we could waive or move HALAK...but...guess who has a NMC?!? Yep.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:15 pm EST

We should SO claim Lias ANDERSSON. LOL.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:13 pm EST

JFC31 - BINGO. Again...this is why the Rangers kept asking him to stay with the organization...and he kept thinking he knew best. We're seeing how badly he's stagnated now, because quite frankly, he looks to be a shadow of the player I saw in the WJCs way back when...and doesn't even look as good as he did playing fourth line back in the Quinn days...of course, this could also just be the reality for the guy...Something I noticed about him in the KHL was that he'd have one or two games where Twitter would be awash with these highlight reel goals..and then nothing...for a week...two weeks...almost three and then BOOM...KRAVT hits the highlight reels again...This guy is like two wires loosely connected. When they spark, they spark big and the energy is flowing. When they don't? Well, he's kind of a non-entity...Still, if its between him or Dryden HUNT on second line? I'll take KRAVT every time.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:10 pm EST

So far, Kravstov is this seasons Hajek.... In regard to HUNT: Are we sure he's not just accidentally bumping into people!

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:07 pm EST

There are 5 guys on the wire today that have at some point put on the Rangers sweater....

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:06 pm EST

"coped" *COULD

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:06 pm EST

@reporterchris·1mFull list of players placed on NHL waivers today: Keith Kinkaid (BOS), Joona Koppanen (BOS), Vinni Lettieri (BOS), Daniel Renouf (BOS), Jayson Megna (COL), Slater Koekkoek (EDM), Calvin Pickard (EDM), Lias Andersson (LA), Jonny Brodzinski (NYR).

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 1:04 pm EST

td: i agree with that. If he coped be sent down he probably would be, and told to work on being more assertive. But he isnt waiver exempt, and thats pat of the calculus...so they need to do whats best. If whats best is him with Bread...so be it. Have to wonder, if just being named to the roster, and being put in the first game would remove some of that weight he has carried...he wants to prove he belongs, maybe belonging will do some of that proving, if that makes sense.If he gets not he team, maybe he relaxes a little...becsaue right now its clear he isnt relaxed....and its not clear that he has made the opening night roster. Confidence is a strange thing, something as simple as the boss saying "We believe in you" can get someone to turn a corner.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:53 pm EST

Wildcard - I'd bet just about anything that if KRAVTSOV could be sent to Hartford without waivers, he'd be there by now or in the very near future. He is where he is because if he hits the wire, he'll be claimed. I'm not say he's been bad...but there have been better player that were sent packing from camp. He's close, but for instance: If it were between him and RYDAHL, I think the latter has looked better and been more engaged...and if we're really calling a spade a spade, OTHMANN really outplayed him...KRAVT continues to look like a really talented player who is constantly a split-second off from the play and everything that's going on around him. And that's because he's essentially sat on his ass for the better part of 18 months. I can't tell you how bad that is for any kid's development.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:47 pm EST

Dryden HUNT...at least he hits? That's literally all he does. The guy couldn't hit the broadside of a barn door with his shot. 17 points. On a line with STROME and PANARIN. That says it all...Oh and wanna guess who averaged more hits in a game than HUNT? I'll give you a hint: Fucktard Brooksie recently cited the stat in a column...

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:45 pm EST

td: Part of the issue is that Gauthier never used to hit guys, and he didnt drive the net unless it was totally clear. His hitting has gotten much much better over the last couple seasons, as well as his confidence to drive to the net with a D hanging around him and one coming on froth e other direction. I think he realized how big he is and he can handle contact. And if there is anything Rangers fan in general can do, its hang onto their initial assessment of a player for as long as possible.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:44 pm EST

And who says BRIND'AMOUR was a naysayer? GAUTHIER was a numbers game in Carolina. They didn't have room for him and were about to lose him on waivers. The player we traded for him was very highly regarded in our system at the time and that's definitely a reflection of how the Canes felt about GOAT.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:40 pm EST

mf - Again. I do not know what you're implying on GAUTHIER, but if its that he's soft or that he doesn't hit, then I'm really not sure what you're looking at. He's not REAVES, where he's targeting guys, but the dude LITERALLY goes to the net hard every shift. And when he's not doing that, he's riding guys into the boards. Again, there's this fucked up perception of GAUTHIER on this wall that I just can't wrap my brain around...and I think it's Brian BOYLE syndrome...which is that because he's not ripping players in half or imposing his will on people that he's soft and not very good. Took that dude scoring 20 goals before folks here thought he was worth anything more than a drop of piss. Now, I don't think you'd find a fan anywhere that would say he's soft or aphysical. But that's always how he played the game. Folks just expected more.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:38 pm EST

@vzmercogliano·1mGG acknowledged part of the reason for sending Gustav Rydahl to the AHL was because he's waivers exempt.He added: "We liked everything he brought. For a guy we didn't know at all, I was very impressed with him. He might be a guy that's going to see some time up here."

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:25 pm EST

After last night I would’ve thought to bring my own bucket to the rink with me because you had to know it’s coming. There is usually a bag skate anyway towards the end of camp.

E

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:11 pm EST

This dilemma with Krappy, sure has turned the Rangers into a shitshow. Thank god for Shartsky... shit happens

stepunmytoe

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:09 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·50mThe message is definitely coming across at today's practice. After Gallant said he was disappointed with last night's performance, the #NYR are finishing with gassers.

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:08 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·14mGallant said they’ll make a final decision on lines for Saturday’s game tomorrow, but he mentioned that part of what we saw today was “management wants to see some different people in different spots.”

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:59 am EST

Looks like Gallant saw the same thing I saw last night. Kravtsov is a player without confidence and he treated the puck like a grenade.. Even on the PP, he got rid of it as quickly as he could back to the point or into the corner. With Jartford not an option, this will be a difficult issue to address.

Bob

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:39 am EST

If it were me I would put Laf with Panarin and Trocheck, Kakko with Kreider and Zib, then Goodrow or Blais with Chytil and Krav. Probably Goodrow, as he is better defensively and can help with draws when needed.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:20 am EST

Jfc krappy can go to the kid line or the skybox

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:19 am EST

New York Rangers@NYRangers·2hBucket list moment ??Thank you to the @NYSE for having us out to ring the opening bell today!

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:18 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-assign-gustav-rydahl-to-hartford/c-336111896

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:16 am EST

Kakko to first line makes sense. I hope they give it 10-15 games. He needs to not defer so much to those 2 as he has in the past. How long before Laf gets move to off wind on Krochek line? Could even e Rydal getting called up and Chytl moving to wing. I think if Lindy is banged up, not now but during the season, Hajek moving into his spot and Jones on 3rd pair, Tinordi or Robertson 7th D.

Puckyou

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:16 am EST

Hard to believe, but past is prologue at this point with the Rangers lineup. Much of last season was line-combo chaos and we’re going in that direction yet again. Just put Kakko & Lafrenière in the Top 6 and LET IT GEL! They’ve EARNED that opportunity. Today’s lines in practice are Kreider-Z-Kakko, Bread-Tro-Vesey, Laf-Chytil-Goody, Blais-Carp-Reaves. Anyone remember how well Laf-Chytil-Goody did last year? Yeah, well neither do I. I assume it would be Krav there if season started tomorrow. I just don’t understand the lack of Laf on Top 6…I really don’t. If Kakko stays up, you’ve now broken up the Kid Line, made it less effective

JFC31

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:08 am EST

Rhet - regardless of the rink size, Krav has played very little the last 2 years and it’s showing.

JFC31

Thu Oct 6 2022 11:01 am EST

JFC... In regard to rink size: It's not the issue it once was. Half the rinks in the KHL are now NHL size rinks and the rest are just 10 feet wider. Gone are the days of the really wide Russian rinks.

Rhet0ric

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:45 am EST

@vzmercogliano·10mLines for today’s #NYR practice:Kreider - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Trocheck - VeseyLaf - Chytil - GoodrowBlais - Carpenter - ReavesThen these 4 as extras:Hunt - Brodzinski - Kravtsov - GauthierRydahl has been assigned to AHL Hartford. <<<---also reports that JBro isnt on the ice. Expected to be on waivers to bring the roster to 26.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:43 am EST

I said it yesterday to a few folks around different places. One thing GG will like about Krav is where he goes. He took a high hit drawing a penalty on one play he took a shot on, and he had a puck go off the heel of his stick on another chance, he also took another good bump on a play that never developed towards him another shift I remember from last night, and the same sort of things happened in all the games he has played. And why is this something GG all like? He was between or below the dots in the slot. You know GG likes players that goto the high chance dirty areas. While Krav is not fully engaged at all times (I think its from confidence not desire) he is showing he knows what he needs to do, even off the puck, he reacts a bit slow at times, but he always seems to know who and where to defend...again, he ends up behind a half step because he seems to hesitate. You can help remove the hesitation, and experience will do that as well. The knowing where to go thing, that takes more, and he sees to know that part mostly. Another thing I have noticed, he seems to be trying extra hard to involve his teammates. One of the things I like about him is that he is selfish in his play, he will take the shot even if he has an open teammate...thats a good thing. But he has passed up shots to try to force passes, and I wonder if that is his way of trying to show he isnt selfish and cares about the team aspect...he made mention of how he doenst like being looked at like that. Hopefully someone pulls him aside and lets him know that working hard, and taking control at times is OK. I mean I imagine its hard for any young player to not defer to a star, but a Russian kid not wanting to defer to Panarin? Good luck...so maybe putting him on the kid line in Kakkos spot, and moving Kakkpo up is the way to go. See if that new kid line can develop the same way.

Wildcard

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:37 am EST

Cm krappy knows he won’t be waived and is playing that card rather than busting his butt. Hopefully it’s not a character flaw, but it sure looks like it. Maybe drury can make a trade with Putin for him…..

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:31 am EST

JFC - Right now, Krapshot doesn't have the motor or head to play on any line...You can see his speed when he decides to or wants to skate..And prior to this camp, we have seen glimpses of the skill..but the past 3 games? atrocious all over ....Sometimes I think it's like you said..being tentative, hesitant due to lacking confidence..Other times it looks like he just floats and quits and doesn't have it in him to continue working hard on his entore game whne things aren't going well offensively.....Maybe one meaningless goal on the PP will help lift him and that's what the Rangers seem to be hoping on.......Barring that, I don't see him deserving or as a fit on a 3rd line or even a 4th line..but a guy who he maybe can mesh with on a lower line is RYDAHL..OTOH, RYDAHL is likely to be in Hartford.......The best thing for KRAPPY might be an "injury" and then a "conditioning stint" in Hartford

Hospo

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:26 am EST

Stevie- Kravtsov has to clear waivers to go down. So it's Rangers or Waivers. End of story. There is no way to send him down without him being claimed (except for a 2 week conditioning stint, butI doubt he would agree to that).

ColoradoMark

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:24 am EST

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/33357/gustav-rydahl

mf

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:05 am EST

Dryden Hunt: At least he hits. https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/huntdr01.html

mf

Thu Oct 6 2022 10:03 am EST

Jimmy Vesey: Why? https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/v/veseyji02.html

mf

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:53 am EST

Vesey not doing much in what should have been a big game for him….He is what I remember….In the middle of the game you wonder if he is playing….There is a reason he is playing for a contract after years in the league….

PJ

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:51 am EST

TD: It's simple, I have watched close to zero Ranger Hockey this offseason. It's going to take a bunch of NHL games (20?, Xmas break?) to convince me that Gauthier has changed his approach to staying on the NYR roster. FTR I was all enthusiastic when the Rangers traded for him, big, fast RHS Wing, who's a gym rat & not a party animal. In the few games at the beginning of last season when both Blais & Gauthier were in the lineup, there was conversation here about the comparisons of those two and how Gauthier could be more effective IF he fashioned his game a bit more like Blais. "Better late than never," I certainly want the Gaut to prove all the naysayers wrong, but many of those naysayers (Brind Amore, fans) called for him to change his approach to his game in an effort to help him succeed. We need a another RHS Wing (not center) in the lineup, I'll temper my enthusiasm until he earns his way to be the 13th forward, 4th line, bottom six.

mf

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:50 am EST

The right thing to do is to send crabby krappy down if he doesn’t have to go through waivers. It would be at least a 2 pronged test of his character and his willingness to do the work necessary to be a nhl player in reality not just in his mind of entitlement of being the rw on the 2 nd line. Not by getting panarin to put him under his wing and lobby for him.

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:46 am EST

Stevielegs - That's because he was trying out JONES as the first PP point, which is FOX's position. He probably racked up five minutes of extra time just on the man advantage alone. And while they ended up one for four, I can't say the PP looked all too sharp last night...again, my take would be to send JONES back to Hartford and start with HAJEK as SCHNEIDER'S partner. They're just a better fit together...but we'll see what happens. Colorado has GIRARD and MAKAR...suppose we could have FOX and JONES.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:42 am EST

Vince Mercogliano saw exactly what I saw from Krav: “ Kravtsov, in particular, has had an uneven camp, looking tentative and out of sync in his preseason appearances.” I used the word ‘tentative’ at least 3 times during the games he played in. Krav has quite frankly played himself OUT of a spot that was handed to him on a silver platter…even with Bread mentoring him and getting him extra work he just was not in a good place. He has played virtually no hockey on NA rinks in the last 2 years…THAT is his big problem. Best thing to do is drop him down & let him figure it out from the 3rd line because he’s also lost value because of his performance…Drury won’t be able to get a commensurate return, unless maybe Gorton takes a shot at him. Mercogliano’s predicted line combos for opening night seem like the way to go, though I’d swap Laf & KK…2 players who have EARNED a chance at Top 6: Top line ? Chris Kreider (LW) ? Mika Zibanejad (C) ? Kaapo Kakko (RW)Second line ? Artemi Panarin (LW) ? Vincent Trocheck (C) ? Alexis Lafrenière (RW)Third line ? Jimmy Vesey (LW) ? Filip Chytil (C) ? Vitali Kravtsov (RW)Fourth line ? Sammy Blais (LW) ? Barclay Goodrow (C) ? Ryan Reaves (RW)

JFC31

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:30 am EST

stevie: I'd say a little bit of both...

rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:27 am EST

The good news is that it was only preseason and we were missing our 1st D pair and 1st goalie. Bad news, other than that - we saw our starting lineup, using a most apropos word, shit the bed. WYSIWYG. Any reshuffle is just that, the replacements are not really any better. I really hope it was just a preseason mindset - get timing ready, work up a sweat, etc. BUT, and I could be way off here, that is NOT a mindset that I have ever, agreed with. You are not in a scrimmage, or a workout, it is still a competition. Against a live opponent. In a physical game. If this was a totally vet team, coming of back to back cup wins, fine. But this is still one of the youngest teams in the league and we haven’t won squat. Winning every battle is contagious and builds a culture. Last night was not that. Plus, I actually saw a few let ups and lazy plays that, but for a inch here/there, could have been an injury. No major alarms…yet. But that effort with 90% of our starters against a one line team was just not good enough. I would not be happy if I was GG. Forget about being in a game that didn’t count, if this happened in PRACTICE, I would be pissed.

Limbo

Thu Oct 6 2022 8:22 am EST

Yet jones got the most minutes with 22 trouba with 20.36 …. D coach putting thumb on the scale or testing to help make a decision?

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 7:37 am EST

I thought Jones looked overmatched defensively at times.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 7:26 am EST

Jimmy’s Feces doesn’t….

Rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 7:25 am EST

And IMO does not belong on the first line. Ever.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 7:19 am EST

That 2nd line is worrisome AFAIC. There’s more chemistry in a 5 year old’s science kit compared to what we’re seeing between Trochek and Panarin so far and Krapsnot looks lost. It’s early so I do think T and P will figure things out but Krapsnot needs to moved off that line ASAP.

Rf4L

Thu Oct 6 2022 7:02 am EST

Was trying to figure out who TROCHECK reminded me of last night and then it came to me...DUKES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMjcxjrOA8

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 5:24 am EST

Faceoff % zbad and Goodrow 67, rydahl and throwacheck 58, and my main boyman Cheetos 40 .

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:47 am EST

Farting on the bench? ….Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·6hAs for Shesterkin, Gallant said it was just a touch of stomach flu. He'll talk to Benoit Allaire about whether he thinks Igor needs one more tuneup in Saturday's preseason finale or can just go right into the regular season.

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:45 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·6hGG was asked specifically about Kravtsov, but took the opportunity to express displeasure with most on the #NYR roster bubble:"I didn’t like our game tonight. Not just him – a lot of them… A lot of guys are battling for jobs, but it wasn’t a good game for a lot of those guys"

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:29 am EST

Unfortunately the Nyr are probably going to use the entitlement program for some players to make the roster. To name 2 so far it seems are krabby krappy and Cheetos fragile. Their Fighting for a spot on the roster is not very apparent. I guess Cheetos doesn’t think rydahl is going to take his job . And krappy will be lucky just to be on the kids line while 1 or 2 of them possibly move up to the top 2 lines.

Stevielegs

Thu Oct 6 2022 3:00 am EST

With Jason ROBERTSON signed, Nic HAGUE remains one of two RFAs that continue to hold out...and I still wonder whether there's a trade to be had here...He would certainly complicate the Rangers' cap sitch for the coming season...would mean almost certainly keeping only six defensemen, because he'd literally make twice what HAJEK or JONES would make...but that would be a huge move in the right direction for our D...But I'm really not sure how that deal could go down cap-wise, without moving some salary of note.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:54 am EST

I'm a glass-half-full guy after last night. Was there some sloppy play? Of course. Would I like to see more out of that second line? Yes. But man, I can say that if the Rangers swapped out two players(HALAK and BARTKOWSKI), that's a 4-2 or 4-3 win for them...Loved watching them rolling four. It was such a pleasant relief after last season seeing lines with guys like BRODZINKSI, HUNT and KEGGER sprinkled in...KRAVTSOV. What's there to say? I think this was his fourth pre-season game and we still don't have a point out of him? The die is cast here and he's going to be on the team one way or another. I do wonder whether DRURY missed the boat by not trading him at the draft...I'm positive they could've gotten at least what they got for ANDERSSON, which was a mid- to late second rounder...but regardless, he'll keep playing until he can't play any longer...FWIW, I don't see him as a liability out there...but I also don't see him as a top-six forward, and that's a problem for that second line...my read? VESEY drops down, BLAIS pops up and KRAVT ends up on fourth line...What I WOULD do, quite frankly, is reunite KRAVT and VESEY with CHYIL and let KAKKO and LAF bounce into the top six...but I can see why GALLANT doesn't want to break up that line...don't think it's the right choice, but recognize that's gonna be his choice...Maybe I'm continuing to be in the minority here, but I believe HAJEK has played a very solid camp, despite being saddled with some really shitty partners, and that he should be the guy with first crack at third pairing...JONES isn't bad at all. He's actually very good. But what he brings they already have in FOX(namely a PP specialist)...and with SCHNEIDER, I think what they need is a bigger-bodied defensively responsible guy...HALAK. Welp, he is what he is. And that's pretty much what GEORGIEV was, which is a guy who can make some pretty nice saves, but also is just as likely to let in a stinker...I think RYDAHL and VESEY have both made this team...I just still don't see how CARPENTER and HUNT get cut.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:39 am EST

Jake0104 - I don't think CARPENTER or HUNT would get claimed on waivers. Whether or not either would want to play in Hartford is a different story...CARPENTER'S last stint there was in 2017...

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:32 am EST

Wildcard - They could put a traffic cone out there and it'd be better than BARTKOWSKI. I counted three goals last night that were directly related to him either being out of position or making just an awful judgement call and essentially leaving HAJEK out to dry...I actually like BARTKOWSKI when he was with the P-Bruins/Bruins. Was a tough player. Hit like a tank, and loved to do it, yet wasn't a slouch on D...but man, that was when the NHL was at a different speed. He just can't keep up. At all. TINORDI looks a heck of a lot more serviceable and that's not saying much. Hell, there are guys we've seen in pre-season on other teams that have been to the waiver wire and still look more serviceable than this guy.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:26 am EST

mf - If you can't see GAUTHIER grinding opponents, you're flat-out not looking. But I could see how you could reach that assumption after last night's game...

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 2:24 am EST

RF4L - With this STROME > TROCHECK business. You've really got to be kidding.

tdchi

Thu Oct 6 2022 12:42 am EST

PJ -Biz-Douche is loud, annoying and self impressed but I guess that sells these days..I have given up watching the studio shows for the most part....And then the first 12 minute of the 3rd period it was an all Bruin love fest with Pang and whover that woman was....Somebody must have said something becuause they finally talked about the kid line..Not that anybody else on the Rangers deserved being talked about in the 3rd...but still....Looking foward to seeing the Rangers Top 6 D all playing at once..And, you know, a bottom six including Chytl, Goodrow, Blais, Rydahl, Vesey, Reaves and others could give the Rangers a bottom six really hard to play against

Hospo

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:58 pm EST

This Biz douche is too much…Still whining about the Pens series and said Rangers didn’t belong on same ice as Tampa….How does this idiot have a job…He still believes the Pens and Bruins can win but Rangers do nothing for him….The rest of the panel looks at him like he is nuts….

PJ

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:51 pm EST

Blowing a two goal lead never good and giving up five goals can’t have GG happy…Trouba and Miller were bad tonight and I thought the Trocheck line had a poor game as well…Kravstov had earned nothing and is going to be an issue…Great to see Kakko with a big game and Blais was hitting all night…Rangers still giving up too many top scoring chances and you see what happens when a mediocre goalie is playing…

PJ

Wed Oct 5 2022 10:48 pm EST

E - agree…I posted in the 1st period that he looked tentative & nervous….and it didn’t get any better. He hasn’t earned a damn thing in this camp and now his play has shown pretty clearly that he’s not ready for the spot they were trying to gift to him. Kakko should get put back on the 2nd line. Unlike Krav, his play has shown that he has earned that chance.

JFC31

Wed Oct 5 2022 10:37 pm EST

This was Krapshoot’s worst outing since preseason started. He was just watching. When he ends up buried behind the Vesey’s of the team he’ll have no one to blame. He’s not lighting the world on fire.

E

Wed Oct 5 2022 10:09 pm EST

RF4L - Gallant and Drury need to find a way to light a fire under Krapshot's arse..Problem is they have no matches...and if they did, would he just quit again? Since the top kids are not under consideration... PLay Vesey and whoever (even Hunt) in front of him and make the kid sit before putting him back in...Unless that is an issue with Panarin..

Hospo

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:56 pm EST

Krapsnot once again rather non-descript. To date he’s working his way to a situation in the organization neither he or Drury want. Curious to see how it unfolds…

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:44 pm EST

Blah game. I say no to Vesey, thought Kravstov was awful tonight, Jones, Schneider and Hajek played well. I think Jones will be a nice pair with Schneider. I like Rydal more than Hunt or Carpenter but since he doesn’t need waivers he goes to Wolfpack with Bratkowski. Trouba and Miller weren’t interested in playing tonight. Kid line were good and I have always loved Kjeci. Blais was good on the boards.

Jake0104

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:36 pm EST

In fact, OK not fact! but from where i sit, Krapshot and Bartkowski have been the most worthless Rangners this pre-season. OTOH, LAFFY and KAKKAO have really grown, especially in theri physical game, and CHYTL is building nicely on last years PO.....I don't mind HAJAK but I am a little concerned about SCHNIDER's partner after how ell he had it with BRAUN late last year..Only his 1st full year

Hospo

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:24 pm EST

Only caught the 2nd half of the game...Not all that impressed with what I saw outside the keep together no matter what it costs kid line...but all three look ready.....There were a few other good things..Blais and Rydahl hitting...Troucek doing what no other Ranger C has done in ages in clearing the crease for his goalies and winning a FO in the Final minutes..Little things mean alot....oh, and from what I saw, another great night by Krapshot.....

Hospo

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:18 pm EST

Rhet. Naah.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 9:02 pm EST

RF4L... Irony is dead.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:56 pm EST

COMark: don't mean leadership so much as just a guy that goes about his business the right way. I don't know him well enough to know one way or the other. And I don't know who else they have there for that stuff. Tinordi maybe...i know he is a hard worker and all...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:42 pm EST

Rhet. For the record I disagree with your Hajek rips.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:34 pm EST

The P line was a collective -7. Lol.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:26 pm EST

WILD- I don’t think so, Bartkowski is not a young guy and he’s have to offer a lot more to be worth a roster spot. I’ve seen no leadership or smarts I’d want him passing on to the kids in Hartford.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:26 pm EST

I thought Halak looked pretty good after they puled him.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:25 pm EST

It is nice to know the Rangers have a guy that can win draws late in a game...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:21 pm EST

IMHO tonight Kakko showed he could be the guy to cycle up to the top line. Chytil is doing well. Laf is the least visible of the line, though he has been good, he has been a tad behind the other two...Kakko looks like he is about to break out.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:19 pm EST

The Bruins absolutely STOLE Pavel ZACHA from the Devils.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:19 pm EST

Veseyt has shown that when on a top line against other teams better players, he doesnt look as good. He has had some good shifts and plays, but overall he has been rather invisible. He was handed a great opportunity tonight, and really hasn't done much with it.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:17 pm EST

COMark: I wonder if he will be one of those guys that can be good in the AHL because the game is a step slower developing. And if he is a "pro" and puts the right effort and work in every day, thats not bad for a team thats goal is development.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:16 pm EST

Halak not sharp, but it’s pre-season and if not for Shesty Hits he would be chilling on the bench chirping Czech insults at the new look Czech-mates.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:16 pm EST

Rhwt: That went in just under and inside the corner...that was a good shot...that probably goes in on most NHL goalies, let alone backups...if he was the go to guy for this team I would be concerned...but as a backup thats going to happen. I mean, that shot beats probably every NHL backup more often than not.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:15 pm EST

Comark. 100% agree.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:14 pm EST

Jones so out of position on that goal. He’s surely gonna be farmed out.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:14 pm EST

Trocheck wants that sequence back...he put a down payment and moved on on that fake shot....

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:14 pm EST

HALAK is not good at hockey.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:13 pm EST

Bartkowski- 1 good shift, but I’ve noticed him (in a bad way) all night long. Don’t even see the point of having him in Hartford.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:10 pm EST

The Department of Redundancy Department.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:10 pm EST

Ahh. There’s the Trochek TD gushes about continually!!

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:10 pm EST

(Video) Painting My Greatest Mural Yet for Charming Texas Town!

Strome never would have done that...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:08 pm EST

Rhet. Redundant! Redundant!

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:05 pm EST

I know the goal is what will be the focus...but did everyone catch Laf nonchalantly bowling over a guy like he wasnt there? I mean, Laf hardly looked like he felt the contact...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:04 pm EST

Noise!

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:04 pm EST

Noise!

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:03 pm EST

Kid line is the best line.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:58 pm EST

So far Strome >>>> Trochek.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:51 pm EST

Biz -SMH

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:45 pm EST

I did not expect to hear Tocchet stroke the Pens.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:39 pm EST

I know it’s pre-season, but Now, after ignoring the 1st period to talk about Biz’s dance moves and Calgary, Tocchet and Douche will have a field day talking about Pasta-Czechs and the Rangers sucky period!

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:35 pm EST

Cheetos is going to demand drury get 2 Czechs to play with him and pick him up every time he falls down

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:35 pm EST

Refs are clearly in mid season form...not sure how thats a penalty...shoving a guy over is not a penalty.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:32 pm EST

Rangers in mid-season form. Difference? No Sherkie to bail out their shit play.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:31 pm EST

How was that a penalty on Bread? WTF?

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:29 pm EST

BARTKOWSKI again…man, he’s making TINORDI look like a Norris candidate.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:28 pm EST

Nob for Life in the pressbox. What a shameless piece of shit.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:22 pm EST

They are falling into the fancy trap here this period. Not making the simple plays like they did in the first.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:19 pm EST

Ragners have had a few bad changes...or maybe its changes at the same time that a player doesnt make the right play to help the change go smooth. Something they wil need to clean up.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:17 pm EST

td: Might be they just want a body for practice while still sending guys down for camp in Hartford.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:16 pm EST

COMark: I think the on air description may have been correct...its who will get to the puck first...at least in part, and there was no Ranger on the far boards...though I would think that isnt the spirit of the rule....and I've not seen it called like that before. Maybe the NHL adjusted that rule a little...though usually there is a press release of sorts with stuff like that.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:16 pm EST

How BARTKOWSKI is still with this team is really a mystery of the ages.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:15 pm EST

Comark. No. The professional NHL refs don’t.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:13 pm EST

Do I not understand icing?

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:13 pm EST

Hajek/Fartkowski pairing. Yikes.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:12 pm EST

The new Czech mates

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:05 pm EST

So far the 2nd line has been horrid. Trochek invisible. Krapsnot avoiding physical play all over the ice.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:00 pm EST

Miller! WTF.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 7:00 pm EST

Not a good look on the captain there.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:59 pm EST

Kreider and ZBAD like peas and carrots again.

Rhet0ric

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:58 pm EST

Never seen a TNT broadcast until now. Who the hell is responsible for deciding that including the Bissonnette schtick helps/adds/makes sense? Hey nothing against Bissonnette but on a ‘professional national sports’ broadcast?? Really? Wow. This is what US TV networks think of hockey and more importantly the audience NHL hockey attracts? Lol. Lololol.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:58 pm EST

RF4L - CHYTIL/KRAVY/1st for KANE @40%. You heard it hear first.

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:55 pm EST

Colo: I think that was a typo...he meant "sit down guy", presumably Hajek....

Ranger47

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:50 pm EST

Chytil better wake up or his get rid of Chytil contingent will be front and center.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:46 pm EST

There’s plenty of shit on this wall

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:45 pm EST

and now I can never look at the spray the wall button the same again...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:44 pm EST

Limbo: What a night to have THAT typo LMFAO...COMark...apparently its a guy that cant start as expected. LOL

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:44 pm EST

Blais is a guy you have to be aware of his whereabouts. Just nasty.

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:43 pm EST

Plus, I love that had to click on a button that says “Spray the Wall” to post that, lol.

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:42 pm EST

Wild - NYR already got their shit down guy for this game - just look at the end of the bench!

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:41 pm EST

Cheetos really likes sitting on the ice after anyone touches him as usual

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:41 pm EST

Wild- do I want to know what a shit down guy is? ;-)

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:40 pm EST

Rf4L: If they can get a D the same age, but more of a shit down guy, that may be something to look at. But unless they can get that, I say keep him as depth in that area and see if he can work out well enough with the rest of his game.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:39 pm EST

KK!!

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:39 pm EST

Kakko....my oh my.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:39 pm EST

Kakko!

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:39 pm EST

SIFT hands by Kakko! Beautiful goal!

JFC31

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:38 pm EST

Oh Baby!

Ranger47

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:38 pm EST

Jen Botterill is excellent. Of course we will be subjected to douche-nette in between periods!

ColoradoMark

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:38 pm EST

Jones looking good on that shift on both ends of the ice...

Ranger47

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:37 pm EST

Jones QB’s the PP impressively. No room tho for him with Fox. He could be a fabulous trading chip.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:36 pm EST

OK that was a HELL of a tip..

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:36 pm EST

Krav also fell for a trick there...that defender left that lane nice and juicy for him, he fell for it...if he keeps falling for it thats bad, if not he will be fine. He seems to be trying o be part of the team a little too much. Needs to be a bit selfish

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:34 pm EST

Kid lien just needs to find their finish...if they do...look out...if not its the same as last season, and I say break them up. Becsaue all that pretty doesnt matter if they cant score goals. But damn they look good.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:34 pm EST

Kravvy is just brutal. Not getting warm fuzzies.

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:33 pm EST

Kravtsov is simply not getting it done! He weakly tried to back-pass the puck to Trouba after getting the puck in a great position to get the puck to the net…the pass failed. He is very tentative & nervous…he simply has not played enough hockey in the past 2 years

JFC31

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:32 pm EST

Man - when KK is on, that puck is on a string.

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:32 pm EST

Kid line is great!

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:30 pm EST

Rf4L: He also screwed up on that face-off...he was not going 100% to get that puck, and it ended up a scoring chance. The Rangers center won the draw back, but Jones, one of the quickest guys on the ice, sort of looked relaxed as he started to drift over to get the puck. He cant have the mindset that this is "just" a pre season game, he hasn't gotten a spot yet, and even if he has he hasn't secured ice time yet....he has been sloppy tonight, and yeah a little overmatched with the physicality, the good thing is that he isnt backing down at all.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:29 pm EST

Blais loves to hit. Cool.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:28 pm EST

Zac Jones struggling with the physical play…

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:27 pm EST

WOW...Blais just blasted that guy...then calmly handled the puck to wait for a god opening and didnt rush anything....good stuff.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:26 pm EST

Rangers looking in mid season form. Good thing Halak is on his Sherkie like game.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:24 pm EST

Preseason games are boring.

Bob

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:22 pm EST

Not sure if its the players, or the fact they havnt played together much...but this 3rd D pair for the Rgners tonight is having a rough game already...its like neither knows what to do. Either they are both sucking, or they are waiting for the other to make a decision...or something...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:21 pm EST

Colin Stephenson@ColinSNewsdayGG today, on the top 6, and the Kid Line, said he and Chris Drury will have "hard conversations about where we think the best guy will fit in each line. And... maybe we'll break up... the Kid Line and... spot somebody up there (in the top 6). Honestly, we're not 100% sure yet."

JFC31

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:15 pm EST

That rush right there is why GG is hesitant to break up that kid line. Eventually those chances will end up in the back of the net, but without looking they just moved the puck multiple times at speed...it was only a good defensive stick that stopped what was likely a sure goal...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:11 pm EST

Shesty has the shits! LOL!

JFC31

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:09 pm EST

Kid line sucks.

Rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:06 pm EST

I know its just pre season...but damn...if that doesnt give players some confidence heading towards the season...

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 6:03 pm EST

When did Gauthier develop all this so-called snarl? Must have been sometime between all the time he didn't play last year and this past offseason. Snarl eh?

mf

Wed Oct 5 2022 5:24 pm EST

legs…agree lack of production is his main problem…I see no sign of that changing….

PJ

Wed Oct 5 2022 5:06 pm EST

Pj not to be argumentative but there are plenty of Nyr who have a lot less snarl than the goat. His big problem is putting the puck past the goalie. I’m not sure it’s lack of talent, I think it’s more his lack of confidence .

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 4:22 pm EST

I am sure the Rangers have tried to move Gauthier… The guy is big and fast but that is really it…He isn’t productive and doesn’t impress defensively….Yes he has hit more this preseason but he is hardly a physical player….And personally I have seen no snarl from him at all….

PJ

Wed Oct 5 2022 3:54 pm EST

DCI: I think we are going to see player dressed, not dressed, moved during games and all sorts of crazy stuff. Goodrow being moved up to help defend makes TONS of sense. Blais moving up to bring some heaviness makes sense. Vesey to help give the offensive game a jump start might help (I think when he gets chances to play up, if signed, that he will put in an extra effort to they to get more of that ice time more often. I curl see Krav being not he second line, but replaced by one of those guys for certain situations. I also see Reaves being in and out based on opponent, same with Jones and Hajek who I think will be the 6-7 setup. Hajek is heavier and more stay home, and Jones is swifter and more offensive. I don't think GG has a real solid idea of what is best for all games and all situations, and I think that there is no way to really say that is the case no matter what. I THINK that with time and work Kakko and Laf will be good enough defensively to be the guy on a top line that is good in those spots more often than not...but they still need some work off the puck, and thats not shocking seeing as how they were not used like that prior to being pro and its not as easy at the NHL level to defend anyway.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 3:08 pm EST

Yesterday….https://youtu.be/KQ9gnm_R4GE

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 3:07 pm EST

Crabby huntsie… gallant pregame….https://youtu.be/RtbJMRgxJuo

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 3:02 pm EST

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/34710295/nhl-secret-race-competitive-advantage

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 3:00 pm EST

I like tonight’s 4th line.

Bob

Wed Oct 5 2022 2:57 pm EST

Could we see a rotation of Blais/Goodrow/Vesey bouncing from 1st to 4th line based on opponent and in game situations? I know they are three really different players but they may be versatile enough to make it work. Vesey and Blais can provide offense as can Goody. But Goodrow moving up to the 1st in the 3rd period of tight games where we have the lead may be a great option. Just musing while we wait for the starting gun on the season. LGR!

DCIGolfer

Wed Oct 5 2022 2:57 pm EST

TD: Huge pass on Joulevi - he's bouncing from team to team with hardly a sniff for a reason: He's crap. The Rangers easily have enough depth to make him at best redundant.

rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 2:49 pm EST

TD/RF4L - I like that 4th line, a lot...IF…they are all ready to go. Aren’t there some real questions about BLAIS/GOODY re: injuries, plus, I’d like to see RYDAHL in a good chunk of actual NHL games too. We know what we have in any other potential 4th liners…and it ain’t good, lol. This one has the potential of a 4th line that is a real difference maker.

Limbo

Wed Oct 5 2022 2:38 pm EST

Guy who just cleared waivers who I'd think about for a sixth defender spot is Olli JOULEVI...certainly looks like it could be JONES' spot to lose, but I kind of wonder if we could trade one waiver wire player for another...JOULEVI won't ever be a star, but this is a former top-five pick who has size, offense and can move.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 1:19 pm EST

I like that 4th line a lot, too. Hope it sticks.

rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 12:53 pm EST

Saw those lines...and I'm sure there's a shit-ton of hand-wringing on Twitter over VESEY...but those are some pretty good lines...obviously BARTKOWSKI-HAJEK is no bueno...but the forward lines are just about spot on. VESEY I see as a very good no-frills replacement for Frank VATRANO. Maybe even a better fit. Doesn't have the Tank's shot, but the dude can still score goals. And he's probably better defensively...I also have my reservations on KRAVTSOV and where he fits, but in that same vain, I DON'T have an issue putting him in a role where he is most likely to succeed...and that line is it...the "kid" line...I've never been a huge fan of it...think all three players would be better suited on larger roles, even though there aren't currently three available for them...but they do give the Rangers three to roll, each of which is a legit threat to rack up goals at any given moment. BLAIS-GOODROW-RYDAHL could also end up being our version of CIZIKAS-CLUTTERBUCK-MARTIN...or to take a real step back in time, CARTER-GIONTA-BERNIER. That's a line that will not only give other teams fits, but will stand a very good chance of potting a goal every other game or more.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:54 am EST

TD: The Flyers are doing the right thing. If they aren't ready for the NHL let them develop is less competitive leagues.

rf4L

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:35 am EST

Stevie: It makes sense to use waiver exemption to advantage. Every team does it...well...most teams. Some don't have many waiver eligible players that are any good at all. But when teams do, they will send a guy down that is better in order to not lose an asset for nothing. Even if that set on its own isnt a high value piece. Guys like that get added in trades all the time.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:32 am EST

Tdchi hard to tell who’s going to make the roster, but unfortunately you are probably correct. The easy way is to waive who don’t have to clear. Then go from there with who’s tradeable before the waiving gamble . Otherwise the asset management contingent will be front and center if some get claimed.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:31 am EST

Wildcard - I no more believe there's even a casual thought to cut REAVES than I believe the world is flat and manipulated by the flying fucking spaghetti monster. But if you took the name away and ranked him objectively, he'd be fighting for a roster spot.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:28 am EST

Flyers cut Cam YORK, Adam GINNING and Tyson FOERSTER. That would be the equivalent of the Rangers cutting LINDGREN, MILLER and KAKKO back in 2020.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:26 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·1hNo line rushes yet, but best I can tell, here’s the morning skate lineup in advance of tonight’s game #NYRKreider - Zib - VeseyPanarin - Trocheck - Kravtsov Laf - Chytil - KakkoBlais - Rydahl - GoodrowMiller - TroubaJones - SchneiderHájek - Bartkowski IgorHalak

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:25 am EST

td: the Reason Reaves wont be cut it to fold. Yes part of it is his ability to change the mindset of the bench. His attitude and playing style has an impact, on and off the ice. Secondly...players don't like being on the ice against him. Sure the high skill guys will feel like they have the advantage (rightly) but they will still adjust their games to ensure they don't mess up and get hit. Dude hits, hard, and a lot. Keep in mind, he played 69 games last season and was still 3rd in hits with 279, and while Gauthier has learned to hit, he is no Reaves...and I think he would wear down and miss time from being as physical as he has been in this pre season. He is battling right now, but he isnt a grinding 4th line guy. I do agree that he would be snagged off waivers. There are teams that have guys that are less physical, less speedy, smaller and just as likely to get points as him, so he would be an upgrade, to at least have mote potential....and he is defiantly better than a lot of 13th F around the NHL. I don't know what sort of return Drury can get, probably not much, but I think he woudl take any return over losing him on waivers. Though other GMs are probably hoping he has no choice.

Wildcard

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:25 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·48mTo avoid any speculation: Dryden Hunt was also out there with the extras #NYRQuote TweetVince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·1hNon-game group is on the ice now:Fox, Reaves, Carpenter, Brodzinski, Gauthier and Tinordi.

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:20 am EST

HellsKitchen - That's the crazy part about HUNT is that the Rangers/GG essentially legitimized an AHLer as an NHLer...really almost in the same way they did Colin BLACKWELL and to a much lesser degree, Jonny BRODZINSKI...like playing them prominently suggests that they're better than marginal NHLers on a bad team...which is EXACTLY what HUNT is/was...The damn miserable Coyotes didn't even get him the type of ice the Rangers/GG did...regardless, I think you're 100 percent right: The chances of HUNT making it to Hartford are almost as assured as the chances GAUTHIER doesn't.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 11:12 am EST

ColoradoMark - re: GAUTHIER, he won't report to Hartford because the likelihood of him making it off the waiver wire is almost nil. You look at a guy with that kind of size, speed and snarl and it's very hard to imagine there isn't a spot for him on one of the other 31 teams. Again, I think there's a spot for him on THIS team if we're ranking things objectively. At least as the 13th forward. But of course, there are guys(cough, REAVES) who aren't getting cut...anyways, I don't think he'll have to face that choice...as per a trade, supposedly, he quietly asked for a trade at the end of the season and the Rangers were/are trying to accommodate him.

tdchi

Wed Oct 5 2022 8:55 am EST

FYI - Tonight's game is on TNT...

Ranger47

Wed Oct 5 2022 4:15 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/05/rangers-gustav-rydahl-already-has-game-for-nhl/

Stevielegs

Wed Oct 5 2022 4:15 am EST

https://apple.news/AT1Tg5DlZSFW1NPkTAgcJ4Q

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 8:42 pm EST

COMark: I think with Rydhal, he may have been told that he is waivers exempt, and that he would liekly be bounced up and down to fill in when needed...I mean, its a perfect situation for the team and the guy...and its his chance to show he is a hard working good player who can succeed in North America.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 4 2022 7:03 pm EST

JFC: I still think that our 2nd Unit PP needs to be able to be a threat. Whether it's winning a key FO, keeping the puck pinned in the O'zone, burying the biscuit, or to serve as training for a player to be ready willing & able to be substituted up to the 1st Unit PP. I want us to draw penalties, and make the opponent pay the price when they're man-down. That's just me though, :-)

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 6:45 pm EST

2021-2022 NHL Team Stats for Penalties, PP, PK, etc. I have this sorted by PP opportunities; you can click at the Column Headers to sort: https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?report=powerplay&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20212022&seasonTo=20212022&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=ppOpportunities&page=0&pageSize=50

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 6:38 pm EST

Here I was going to not keep Barzal as one of my keepers and take D Toews instead. Now people have me thinking I erred!

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 4 2022 6:37 pm EST

RF- Rydahl gets paid the same in Hartford as in NY. That was probably a big issue for Kravtsov. He would have earned a lot less money in Hartford and wasn’t able to see his opportunity would come. Rydahl can afford to bide his time. All the guys who have bolted back to Europe weren’t old enough to have a salary like the one Rydahl has. I’m sure he was told he might start in Hartford. It sucks because he earned it, but I am sure he will stick around. My bet is he is in the lineup by November.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 4 2022 6:25 pm EST

Rf4L: One thing I will say about the Islanders and LL...when he is inevitably fired (as he should be already) the next GM will have some extra space to do something cap wise....because with a good coach who isn't D first and stuff, I think Barzel will explode. Kid i good, timing is important, but with a GM that will put the right folks around him, he can do some stuff....(un?) fortunately I think its going to take them falling flat a few more times before that happens. The NHL is better with strong NYC area teams.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 4 2022 6:02 pm EST

Hells: I could see Hunt getting grabbed if there is a team that has a guy injured, or their 13th F isnt good enough for the NHL at all. Hunt can at least play at the NHL level. Not saying it WILL happen, but It wouldn't shock me...he is a super cheap extra forward. But thats also why I think that its the same reason the Rangers will probably look to hang onto him.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 4 2022 5:29 pm EST

On Barzal. The vastly overrated LL (done nothing since the cap era commenced) has created a vacuum of talent on the Island by short-sightedly embracing strategies from the 90s. They are effective to a certain extent but you need top end talent in more than 1 spot in the lineup to legitimately challenge for a cup. Barzal is the only player on that team who is a true top end talent (as I’ve maintained for a while now). IMO he’s worthy of that deal but he will struggle statistically to live up to it because he’s got so little to play with. Unless someone like Walhstrom or Bellows or perhaps the young Russian goalie unexpectedly pops this dilemma isn’t going away anytime soon. This is all on LL. I find it quite amusing - I dislike immensely his draconian practices in part because I think they are born out of pure arrogance due to for whatever reason the hockey world’s inability (refusal?) to see the man for what he really is - a dinosaur who’s time has long passed.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 5:15 pm EST

Comark. Yeah I get all that but this is bottom of the lineup players. Oh well. Hopefully R is anti Krapsnot if/when that happens…

Rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 5:13 pm EST

RF- Agreed, but RYDAHL has one thing going against him- Waiver exempt status. Carpenter is not. So I think RYDAHL goes down and Carpenter has a short time to prove his worth. RYDAHL will be told he will be getting an opportunity for sure. This is not like one of those other SWEDES we have brought over that look way over matched. When I coached, it was the best players who made the team. But we didn't have contracts, waivers and other nuisances. It's been a long time since the "best players" make the team in the NHL.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 4 2022 5:07 pm EST

And chalk it up to 50+ years of being a foolishly Ranger fan but why am I envisioning the season to start and the team struggles to score 5 on 5 goals??

Rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 4:58 pm EST

So Vince saying Ryhdal continues to impress. Keeping Crapentar over him would so reek of GG playing favourites. It’s his right of course but in the exhibition games I saw he was clearly second to the Swede in multiple ways.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 4:14 pm EST

Our very own, "Scape Goat?"

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:55 pm EST

I would be shocked if Goat Boy makes it through waivers. Someone will take a shot on his size and speed. Hunt on the other hand I would be surprised if he didn't get through. He's GG blind spot.

HellsKitchen

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:43 pm EST

mf: Minutes isnt the best way, more is number of opportunities....because both have a MAJOR flaw. If a PP starts with 3 seconds left because you drew a penalty short handed, or you scored 10 seconds in, the amount of PP time is not really as high as a team that never scores a PP goal. Now, that isnt to say that every team with a lot of PP time sucks on the PP, but it needs to be considered. Number of PP's has the same issues, if you get 3 PP's in a game, but all of them came during a PK, you end up having no PP time but 3 PP opportunities. So you need to look at PP opportunities, time and percentage. The Rangers had 218 opportunities (28th), leader in that regard was the AVS with 279. The Rangers had 341:53 in PP ice time (32nd), the leader the AVS led with 450:21, Rangers had a .671 success rate (tied for 7th) and the Panthers led with .744, The Rangers had 55 PP goals (9th) with the AVS leading with 67. You also need to look at shorthanded goals against...the Rangers were the best in the NHL given up just 2, worst was the NJD with 14. SO all in all, the Rangers PP was very good. And yeah, they clearly need to gain more opportunities...but thats not all on them. We all know that there have been incredibly easy calls not made to give the Rangers a PP, probably at least one per game.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:32 pm EST

I feel like the only reason Gauthier is getting any playing time in exhibition games is to trade him. If they were serious about him being a contender he would be given looks on the 1st line to show what he could do in case of an injury. Why they don't do it anyway to increase his value is beyond me. But His days are numbered. Someone on Twitter, I think Stat Boy Steven, suggested something like "Wait until Gauthier doesn't report to Hartford" which could conceivably happen, although he seems like a pretty good soldier. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes, but I just don't see him on the roster unless there is an injury between now and the roster deadline. It really comes down to Vesey and Hunt. Carpenter made the team (on merit or not- just a fact), no way anyone like BLAIS or REAVES are cut so it is either they keep Hunt and Sign Vesey and start with 23 (They have never gone with 22 even when it has been suggested!) Then send Rydahl down and waive Brodz and either trade Gauth or waive him as well. On D, maybe they do send down Jones and start with Hajek and Tinordi as the 7th. Don't think Bartkowski has made the team.

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:29 pm EST

Mf - rangers PP2 will get 30-60 seconds per game

JFC31

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:29 pm EST

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/10/04/ny-rangers-camp-ryan-reaves-and-his-shoulder-pads-arent-done-yet/69539325007/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:28 pm EST

Mf - https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/teams/new-york-rangers-players-2021-22-nhl-stats.html

JFC31

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:24 pm EST

Wild: Do you have a link to NHL Team Stats which show the rankings of "Team Minutes" on the PP? IIRC The Rangers were last or 2nd to last in "Total Minutes" of having a 5 on 4 advantage. If So, that is unacceptable with major room for improvement. Also IIRC, Colorado was 1st and ahead of the leagues 2nd place by a large margin, so I'd toss Colorado out of my comparison, "but the Rangers are NOT drawing enough penalties, and a 2nd unit PP is a must, AND, we cetainly have enough depth to hone a 2nd unit PP. (end of rant!) :->)

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 3:08 pm EST

I don't think that there is any reason to look at the PP setup to start coming out of camp means that GG doesn't think Jones should be on the team. If GG has shown anything, its that he is like 99% of NHL coaches, he brings young players in slowly when he can. So he may jsut want to take the pressure off Jones to have to be part of the PP, it was a very good PP last season, no reason to believe it wont be the year, so let Jones step into a regular role and when there is an opportunity to give him some PP time (lets say when there is an injury, or a D *Trouba* gets not a fight and cant be not he second unit) and then if and when Jones settles in well he can get more regular time. I can get that from seeing the PP setup and his usage so far just as much as seeing him being cut.

Wildcard

Tue Oct 4 2022 2:03 pm EST

Tdchi I don’t think drury is inclined to waive the goat , so he might trade him for something if he’s not going to be on the roster. I don’t even remember if he was sent down for conditioning stint. I wonder if drury is going with 22 instead of 23 to start the season. I’m for 23 to start.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 1:57 pm EST

RF4L - yep, that's what CM was saying. And I'm less than astounded that such a fucking moron couldn't come up with a better column to write than about what the Rangers do with the second PP unit that gets 15-30 seconds each man-advantage. I mean, I guess that's a very longwinded way of saying JONES will probably get cut...but he needed a whole column for that?! On a side note, I continue to be amazed that any one from the Ranger organization communicates with this little geriatric shit. If I were a player, I'd be like 'look. I know you're going to write what you're going to write, but you're not going to get anything from me...the dude is probably stalking them in RI.

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 1:39 pm EST

ColoradoMark - Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if ALL the guys that are waiver exempt are demoted and the guys who aren't are kept...personally, I don't think either HUNT or CARPENTER would be claimed...but I also don't think the Rangers...or rather GALLANT...will agree to send either of them to Hartford. So yeah, my feeling is both will be with the team, RYDAHL gets demoted, and GOAT gets waived. The part I can't figure out is VESEY, because it sure seems to me he's made the team.

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 1:11 pm EST

Lb hanging with Vince? ….Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·Oct 3GG had a funny line on the PP1 vs. PP2 usage. (I don't think he reads Twitter, but he knows the discourse.)"Hopefully that first unit is real hot, and you know how much time they give the kids. They’ll have to wait their turn."

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 1:07 pm EST

Looks like krappy is carrying panarin’s water and jockstrap. He might get injured if panarin stops short . Could break his nose.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 1:03 pm EST

Hey coach it’s preseason practice give the goat a try up there maybe you’ll increase his trade value.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 12:59 pm EST

LL = over-rated.

Rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 12:31 pm EST

Welp, no worries about KRAVT going AWOL during this year's retreat: https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1577346560005853185

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 12:19 pm EST

Vesey now playing RW on Line 1 with Kreider & Z. Another LW who GG has no problem moving to his off-wing…guess there’s only one LW who on the team who can’t figure it out! This shit is too funny!

JFC31

Tue Oct 4 2022 11:49 am EST

BARZAL extended eight years: $9.15 million. I mean, he's a special player for sure...but to put my feelings on this into perspective...if I were to elect whether to pay ZIBANEJAD $8 million over eight or this guy $9 million over eight? I would go for Z every day of the week and twice on Sunday...but I guess this is the contract that gets tossed out there when your front office is still smarting from losing TAVARES for nothing.

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 11:44 am EST

David Pagnotta@TheFourthPeriod·6m$73.2M over 8-years for Barzal gives him a $9.15M AAV.

RDW

Tue Oct 4 2022 11:17 am EST

Last Season, were we at the bottom of league in drawing penalties and being on the "Power Play?" I'm not talking about how effective we were on the PP, I'm referring to the amount minutes vs the rest of the league of being on the PP.

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 11:09 am EST

TD: LB is actually at the Rangers ass-grabbing mini-camp. Must have relatives in RI!

rf4L

Tue Oct 4 2022 10:58 am EST

KIS - Welp, that's the point: GAUTHIER is better than anyone being put out there as a fourth liner, save for GOODROW. Better than CARPENTER and HUNT for sure. I'd say REAVES too, but at least he can fall back on his ability to fight(which never really gets used, so there's that). Honestly, he's played better than BLAIS and on par with KRAVT, who, while showing flashes of what he can do, really hasn't done all that much. The point is, the guys who are playing better than GOAT all have spots in the top nine, with exception to VESEY(and OTHMANNN who is already gone)...And he 'got his chance' last year? Sorry, but that's just not accurate. He got minimal minutes on the bottom two lines and then was benched for nearly a third of the season as GG desperately tried to find someone to click with PANARIN and STROME...You know who got a chance last year? Dryden HUNT, who inexplicably put up similar numbers skating with PANARIN...now if you want to say it's all a moot point because GAUTHIER didn't get his chance last season and there's no reason to believe he'll get one this season? I'm with you right there. Spot on.

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 10:53 am EST

TD- Yeah, I was thinking the Rangers get some R&R in Rhode Island, and who gets exclusive travel with the team? Brooks. I'm sure that adds to the relaxing part of their trip. That guy just screams fun. And there he is saying Carpenter doesn't deserve to be there (which of course he is correct and got that from the wall!). Gotta be awkward at the breakfast buffet! He does bring up one good point. I don't thinkt he Power Play 2 unit is worthworrying about, but if Jones isn't on it, maybe they are planning on sending Jones and Rydahl down because they don't risk waivers. Or they are going to expose HUNT and GAUTHIER at the same time when everyone else is exposing players so maybe they can sneak them down to Hartford. Maybe Gauthier won't report and re-iterates his demand for a trade. Or maybe the Rangers told Gauth that they will expose him if they have no plans for him?

ColoradoMark

Tue Oct 4 2022 10:46 am EST

Another fucking wet fart out of the mush-brained mind of Larry Brooktard. So now the Rangers' season DEPENDS on the guy who plays for 30 seconds of PP time opposite of TROUBA? The second unit on this team is just a few seconds away from being a place holder. The second unit, AT BEST gets 30 seconds or so out there. Sometimes not even that if the first unit is well-rested. It's almost purposeless. You look at the average PP TOI for the first unit...and then look at the second. It's laughable. QUINN mighta used them a bit more, but GALLANT doesn't. They literally go out there so that the top six can be rested when the man advantage expires. Like, I know there's a dearth of news out there while the Rangers are grab-assing in Rhode Islands...but man...talk about yet another Brooks column written in a vacuum. I'm pretty sure the dude doesn't even watch games any more and just trolls Twitter and the wall for his info.

tdchi

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:47 am EST

Rhet: you tai-ping from a piece of driftwood on the West Coast of FLA?

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:46 am EST

K.K: at 21 years & 8 months old, out a bunch of games due to injury deserves a much more patient approach https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kakkoka01.html

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:45 am EST

Can keep everyone should be CAN'T keep everyone :)

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:44 am EST

JMO: Rydahl needs to make the team. He's played well enough to make the team. He's big, he's physical and plays all three forward positions. He's also an agitator. To me, if both Carpenter and Hunt make the team over him, it's criminal.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:43 am EST

Chytil turned 23 last month, this is a poop or get off the pot season for him: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/c/chytifi01.html

mf

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:43 am EST

So far it’s been too bad the goat and the coaches haven’t figured out how to get him to score. In 2019-20 in the ahl he scored 26 goals and 11 assists in 44 games. He’d be half a hero if he could get that in 82 games in the nhl. I doubt he’ll clear waivers if he doesn’t make the team. He’s going to be 25 this month at 6’4 and 224 lbs and was a first round pick at #21 in 2016. I think he can be better then mike hunt but gallant doesn’t seem to think so. Too bad he didn’t demand the krappy treatment. And Goat’s past numbers look better than krappy’s . The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:32 am EST

My biggest concerns going into this season: Kravstov? No. Hajek? Nope....Kakko and Chytil. Both have been in the NHL long enough now that they need to both either make a leap forward or they need to get traded while they still have value. I will also say it again, we can keep everyone. The cap really doesn't make it possible. In regard to K'Andre: How have we not signed this kid to a big extension? I expect him to break out this year and he will on cost us that much more in the offseason. Bridge deals suck.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 4 2022 9:20 am EST

KIS.... I get what you are saying, but Goat never got the top sox minutes that others did and Hunt is a GG favorite. Why? I would much rather watch Gauthier vs. Hunt any day of the week, but that's just me.

Rhet0ric

Tue Oct 4 2022 8:36 am EST

Avery video was cringeworthy. I assume sooner or later that little you get first shot challenge is going to get him seriously hurt.

shonuff

Tue Oct 4 2022 8:34 am EST

Need to give it a break on Gauthier already. He isnt a difference maker. He is a great practice player. Big body, fast skater hard worker. Cant fucking play. he cant score. who does he beat on the 4th line. Reaves? Blais? Vescey? Carpenter? If all we can do is say is Kravtsov well Krav is gettting his chance. If he doesnt produce he will be gone with jones in a package for Kane. Goat had his chance last year. He had more than half a year and what did he do? scpore 3 goals. Krav will have 10 by the all star break. It would take Goat 2 seasons to score 10. Send goat on his way and hope Krav is the real deal.

Kis

Tue Oct 4 2022 5:02 am EST

What’s next krappy on the pk ? ….the prodigal son….https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/gerard-gallant-happy-with-overhauled-rangers-penalty-kill/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 4:59 am EST

Avery continues to be himself sans anger management….https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/crazy-sean-avery-threatens-neighbor-teens-in-parking-dispute/

Stevielegs

Tue Oct 4 2022 4:57 am EST

Krappy the new hero? …show me…..https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/zac-jones-power-play-skills-wont-trump-rangers-impediments/

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 3 2022 8:15 pm EST

JNYR- Lol, I know you were saying Blais, but you inadvertently said my last name!

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 3 2022 7:37 pm EST

CM your right, he made the team but did not dress till Bliss went down

Jnyr

Mon Oct 3 2022 6:17 pm EST

JNYR- Gauthier did make the roster as did Hunt. That’s why Kravt didn’t make the team.

ColoradoMark

Mon Oct 3 2022 4:56 pm EST

E - I bring up KRAVT more as an illustration than anything else. Obviously, he's making the team and if I were to make my wager, GAUTHIER will be on waivers and either on his way to Hartford or more likely, on another team. My big issue in bringing KRAVT up is that he's getting the chance GAUTHIER should've gotten last season, but was instead bumped for Dryden HUNT...again, my philosophy is to always ice the best team you can...bumping GOAT to waivers? You don't do it. Just simple as that. He's better AND has outplayed enough player that he should have a roster spot. Then again, so has VESEY and so has RYDAHL. But I will be personally surprised if any of them are on the team unless there's an injury.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 4:46 pm EST

Squishface just announced OTBG’s hiring!!!

Rf4L

Mon Oct 3 2022 4:12 pm EST

TD: but to be fair I’ve seen Kravtsov do things with the puck in motion that Goat couldn’t dream of. But that’s obviously not the criteria in the end. Gotta produce.

E

Mon Oct 3 2022 3:34 pm EST

I thought the GOAT had a great camp last year. He did not make the roster breaking camp. I likes Blais a lot last year and was so pissed off at him getting hurt by that %$^# Slewban. The one bright spot I though wad that GOAT would get that chance to show us what he has got. Well he did and we are still waiting. That's why I understand he looked good in camp but wont be upset if he is the odd m an out. If he pulls a Hajek and waits for a chance...it will come. I don't see a strong market or him tillhe proves himself.

jnyr

Mon Oct 3 2022 2:56 pm EST

Maybe they should have asked for more…..Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hGallant has taken notice of Panarin putting in extra work with Kravtsov after each practice:"Bread’s trying to make our team better. (Kravtsov) didn't work out last year real well, but this year he’s come in with a great attitude and he's done everything we've asked."

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 3 2022 2:55 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hGallant also noted that the players had a few special dinner guests last night: Adam Graves, Mike Richter and Jeff Beukeboom.As for activities, it's cold in RI. Some guys went golfing and/or skeet-shooting, but it sounds like many just relaxed and watched football yesterday.

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 3 2022 2:29 pm EST

I hope drury is shopping krappy and he can get a decent return

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 3 2022 1:46 pm EST

RF4L - Admittedly, I'm interested to see what KRAVT will do with two great distributers in PANARIN and TROCHECK on his line...but that said, he's done nothing really in camp to earn that spot. And while he hasn't looked bad...well...he hasn't exactly knocked it out of the park...and while we're on the subject of GAUTHIER not finishing...guess who else hasn't finished? At all? Yep. Ol' KRAVTY.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 1:34 pm EST

RF4L - I can't see the Kings putting either of those guys on waivers. Would be akin to the Rangers waiving KRAVTSOV. Guaranteed someone would claim them. If that's the case and they're not beating the bushes for a trade partner, they're fucking stupid. Sadly, I can't see how the Rangers could net one or the other. I can't see GALLANT playing either over CARPENTER or HUNT, so it's kind of a moot point I guess...if they are waived, I really doubt the Rangers get a crack. I believe they're sitting at 28 or 29 in the claims department. Ain't 28 or 29 teams that would pass on those guys.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 1:25 pm EST

Radim ZOHORNA claimed from Pittsburgh by Calgary. Kinda surprised Pittsburgh put this guy on waivers. Looked like a good, hard-hitting bottom liner. Dude is massive.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 1:16 pm EST

stepunmytoe - sad, but 100 percent true. Dryden HUNT is a nice feel-good story, but the truth is he's just not that good of a player. And CARPENTER. I really don't see what they saw in him unless it was something that went out the door over the summer. He looks like shit. Not even as good as ROONEY, which says it all right there.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:57 pm EST

mf…Laff and Kakko move up to the first and second line wing….I would like a third line of Chytil, Goodrow and Blais but Kravtsov will get the spot….Blais would then move to the fourth line which would only make it stronger….

PJ

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:46 pm EST

No to Vilardi... we have "Huntsie"

stepunmytoe

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:14 pm EST

Gabe Vilardi: anyone up to date with his back injuries? Thinking that he's a worthwhile depth signing turnaround situation (diamond in the rough?)

mf

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:07 pm EST

Pretty obvious the 2nd line RW spot is Krapsnot's to lose. How much leash is GG prepared to offer up? Of course, if Krappy takes the ball (re puck) and runs (re skates) with it, the point is moot. We shall see.

rf4L

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:05 pm EST

FYI, it's possible Jaret Anderson-Dolan and/or Gabriel Vilardi could be placed on waivers in the next few days...

rf4L

Mon Oct 3 2022 12:05 pm EST

Ok Goat cant find the back of the net. What about Hunt ? He is smaller, hits less, gets knocked off puck easier, not as fast, offensively challenged, blah blah. Anyone can see Goat>Hunt, except, you guessed it, us. We will have Carpenter and Hunt over Goat and Rydahl book it. 4th should be Blais-Rydahl-Goat.

stepunmytoe

Mon Oct 3 2022 11:52 am EST

Legs: You're Cruisin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLm2Edb5F7M

mf

Mon Oct 3 2022 11:51 am EST

Bob: we agree on something :->) and for some unsubstantiated reason if Gauthier makes the cuts, I think that Sammy Blais' game is going to have a positive impact on Gauthier. IF Blais can regain his pre-Slewban form, as Steely Dan said, "look-out" Wallsters.

mf

Mon Oct 3 2022 11:50 am EST

So what has krappy done to deserve a roster spot, and as rw on the panarin line better than the bubble players? ….Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·1hPractice lines are all the same today #NYR ????????Quote TweetVince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·Oct 1Top 3 lines look like this:Kreider – Zib – Goodrow Panarin – Trocheck – KravtsovLaf – Chytil – KakkoThen there are two groups of four:Blais - Hunt - Carpenter - ReavesVesey - Brodzinski - Rydahl - Gauthier

Stevielegs

Mon Oct 3 2022 11:21 am EST

I think Rydahl should be on this team. That kid really played well this camp. Pro’s-pro. It comes down to PK prowess with Gauthier. Is he the best of most options on the PK amongst the mash of bottom6 guys? I don’t think so. So that’s the argument economics aside in my opinion.

E

Mon Oct 3 2022 11:08 am EST

On Gauthier………I believe that he finally got the message and is playing a game that is useful, including physically. I would argue that he would be an excellent 4th liner with his speed and playing physically as he does now. I also think that Rydahl outplayed Carpenter significantly.

Bob

Mon Oct 3 2022 10:57 am EST

GAUTHIER: I have no doubt that Gauthier is an NHL player, but not as Rick Nash II and I have no idea what role Gauthier sees himself as. On this Ranger squad it seems that 4th line wing and 2nd unit PK are best for him to stay with the big club and he has to start somewhere if he's going to stay at the NHL level. A guy like Gauthier could help a line pin the puck in the opponents' defensive end for an eternity, and if his PK prowess is up to snuff he could cause a breakaway where his 'one-trick-pony' of a move to the net could pay off. Brind Amore cut bait on this kid early in Gauthier's career, why?

mf

Mon Oct 3 2022 10:12 am EST

Look, I disagree with this notion that GAUTHIER 'doesn't have hockey sense' or is some form of sub-par player. He may not have a star or top-6 ceiling, but I think he's a very serviceable player. And when you're talking about a group that includes HUNT and CARPENTER, how can anyone sit back and say that he's not as good? And if you want to also include REAVES? Well, he's better than three guys who are being handed roster spots, which in theory means he should have a role with the team regularly playing in games...again...if you're going to hold up HUNT or CARPENTER and say they bring something GOAT doesn't? I'm sorry, I disagree. CARPENTER, I suppose, you could argue is a center. But he's not a very good one. A PKer? Again, not a very good one. Faceoff man? Again, not a very good one. Do his abilities outshine GOAT? Absolutely not. And TBH, if we're going to call a spade a spade and go off of what has happened in camp, I think a very strong argument can be made for GAUTHIER being better than KRAVT and at least on par with BLAIS. Bottom line? If the idea is to ice the best team possible, GAUTHIER is on that roster. He's not going to supplant KAKKO or LAF or KREIDER or PANARIN obviously. But the only two non-roster/on-the-bubble players that I can say have outplayed GAUTHIER are VESEY and OTHMANN...Yes, we all know the reality...and I fully expect GAUTHIER to be on another team in a couple weeks...He will get waived. He will get claimed and we will have 82 games of HUNT and CARPENTER stinking up our roster.

tdchi

Mon Oct 3 2022 9:05 am EST

I'm thinking that if LAF is going to be moved to RW he's better situated to play with Panarin/Trocheck than Zbad/Kreider. Then if Kakko & his puck possession strengths is playing with Kreider/Zbad, that would/could make a 3rd line of Blais/Chytil/Kravtsov. Too bad we don't have another RHS RW which was my initial allure to Gauthier....

mf

Mon Oct 3 2022 8:46 am EST

Some thoughts as the regular season gets closer: 1) I agree that Goodrow should be the 4th line centre vs the 1st line right winger because it should mean that the Rangers roll 4 lines regularly plus Goodrow isn't THAT good. 2) I amcurious to see how patient GG will be with Krapsnot if Krapsnot struggles on the Panarin line and if that happens, what does GG do in terms of lineup swap. 3) I hope Drury either trades Hajek or puts him on waivers vs having him lineup as the 8th dman. 4) Who will be the 13th and 14th forwards? Crapenter has done nothing to deserve a spot AFAIC but GG probably will keep him and Hunt.

rf4L

Mon Oct 3 2022 5:47 am EST

CM - whether or not Kravtsov is successful on 2nd line RW depends on his successful he is putting the puck in the net when Bread forces passes to him. Hopefully, Panarin concentrates on just playing his game but I have a feeling he’s gonna try and prop up Kravtsov.

JFC31

Mon Oct 3 2022 3:42 am EST

Goat time?….https://nypost.com/2022/10/02/julien-gauthier-likely-to-fall-victim-to-rangers-roster-crunch/

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 2 2022 8:34 pm EST

Gaut lacks hockey sense. Sure he’s a great athlete, he’s a great skater, but he doesn’t have skill. He just doesn’t. Maybe Hijak has trouble breaking in but the guy is a legit NHL player. I’ve just seen enough on Gauthier. I’ll say this for Vesey. He’s been a solid bottom-6 player these days. He looks good.

E

Sun Oct 2 2022 7:46 pm EST

We haven’t seen Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov. I want to see them play before passing judgement. I think we’ll see soon enough. I expect Gauthier to get traded. No way he goes to Hartford. Although I feel he might get some confidence if he did. But he is as snake it as anyone I’ve seen. But he does work hard and I don’t think he hurts a team defensively. I think the only advantage he has over any of his competition is he can step up and play offense on a top line. Vesey is the next closest guy that can jump up if needed, so that might be the deciding factor. Gaut still beats him in size and speed!

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 2 2022 6:55 pm EST

Andrei- totally agree. Goodrow was on our 4th line in the playoffs and that is depth. He can move around the lineup and he will play on the PK. He will get his minutes and there will be times when his defensive skills will be needed. But he is not as much of an offensive threat as our youngsters are. No way he should be on the 1st or 2nd line. I’m fine with him on the third, but I think the kids might force the issue either as a line or making a case for top line minutes.

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 2 2022 6:03 pm EST

PJ: where are you slotting Blais, Goodrow, Kravtsov, Chytil ?

mf

Sun Oct 2 2022 5:37 pm EST

See, this is where I would have to disagree with many here. Goodrow should be playing on the 4th line, and, in my opinion, that is where he brings the most to this team. I recall NYI having a best 4th line in hockey, and folks did not really seem to mind that their 4th line often was getting the most playing time. Let's all agree, whether it is a 3rd/4th/2nd or 1st, it's not the line number that's important, it's a playing time. So if Goodrow gets his 15-17 minutes a game, is it really matter what line number it is? He will for sure get his share on PK, end of the game and other defensive assignments. Goodrow anchoring the 4th line speaks of overall depth and if line gels and will not only bring a good defensive support, but can score a few, and will play this gritty, in your face style, Rangers will be a very tough team to beat. 3 lines that can score, 4th line that can bang and plays a tough game, not many teams will be able to match the overall depth.

andrei

Sun Oct 2 2022 4:56 pm EST

Othmann interview after return to Flint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdGUDOZSL4s

sjw

Sun Oct 2 2022 4:18 pm EST

Rangers had a great playoff run that didn’t include playing Hunt and Gauthier….Hopefully they go in a different direction…Also agree Goodrow should not be buried on the fourth line….Leave the fourth line to some mixture of Vesey, Reaves, Rydaul or Carpenter….

PJ

Sun Oct 2 2022 3:25 pm EST

New York Rangers@NYRangers·1hOFFICIAL: #NYR have assigned goaltender Louis Domingue to @WolfPackAHL.

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 2 2022 12:24 pm EST

mf....I'm still not sold on Troceck and Panarin just having atomatic success and just fitting in a "winger ". they should be doing the experiment with this line NOW and early in the season. Don't want this to linger.

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Oct 2 2022 12:19 pm EST

Hospo...I hear you loud and clear on Goodrow but I'm just using "the process of elimination" theory that will most likely see him on the 4th ? This "kid line" thing has to be adressed too....Laffy deserves better in my opinion and letting Krapshot play there with Chytl and Kakko just can't happen,period. It will be very interesting to see what GG does and of course wins and losses will dictate the line-ups.

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Oct 2 2022 12:12 pm EST

IMO, we're pretty deep in the forward positions, we need a little patience and time, we're still in a growth faze, a different part of the growth than last year, and a different part of the growth than next season. Trocheck & Panarin must find their games as linemates, and then mesh with a RW, maybe not in that order, but that line is very new and requires a substantial learning curve, perhaps a full season of learning curve, I don't know the degrees and time commitments various levels of chemistry requires. The roster is looking a bit like a rubiks cube, but at this time in the season, "shouldn't it?"

mf

Sun Oct 2 2022 11:56 am EST

Galant gallant …https://youtu.be/A__cE-bZO98

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 2 2022 11:48 am EST

NEWFIE - I absolutely HATE GOODROW as a wasted 4th liner..The guy is a 2-way 3rd liner who can move up in case of injury or poor performance...I guess that poor performance has started already! OTOH, without either of the two kids who are ready to play RW on the TOP 2 lines being used there in favor of the "kid line", the team has krappy alternatives.....However, it is a long season so things should shake out based on performance and not hope, wishes and favorites..Well, one would hope!

Hospo

Sun Oct 2 2022 11:21 am EST

Bob.....that's true enough and my preference for a 4th line would be Goodrow, Vesey and Reaves....but remember GG loves Hunt for some reason.

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Oct 2 2022 10:48 am EST

I am probably wrong as I usually am……..but if a Goodrow is on any line above the 4th line the Rangers are not strong or deep enough to win the cup. That is the role he filled in Tampa. Having him on the first line is no different than having Jesper Fast on the first line.

Bob

Sun Oct 2 2022 10:39 am EST

tdchi..well,at least you admit your problem is with Hunt. so, you love Goodrow there and there is no 5th line for Reaves to play on (he ain't playin' on the top three lines) ?Oh I know let's put Gauthier there ,that should solve everything . :)

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Oct 2 2022 10:38 am EST

CMark: "Sign Him Up!"

mf

Sun Oct 2 2022 10:36 am EST

The great Sean Day is on waivers!

ColoradoMark

Sun Oct 2 2022 9:51 am EST

Newfie_Ranger - I absolutely love GOODROW on fourth line. But man, talk about hamstringing the guy. With REAVES and HUNT on his flanks, you're more or less making sure that line has zero offense. My big issue is with HUNT. I just don't think he's a strong forward. Secondarily, with REAVES. It's just a line that would be treading water at best. At worst, they get mismatched against an opponent's top line and then it's gonna fall on GOODROW to keep them afloat.

tdchi

Sun Oct 2 2022 9:15 am EST

Vince M. Mentioned on his podcast he thinks NYR may go with 22 and not 23 this season to save some cap space that accumulates until the deadline to have $4mm or so space for deadline acquisition. Otherwise, they won’t have space for a quality player, however may not be possible. Also could start with 23 and get to 22 in a few weeks to see how it shakes out.

Puckyou

Sun Oct 2 2022 7:41 am EST

I wonder what the trade market us for Hajek. Surely neither he or the team are willing to go another season where he’s in the pressbox more than on the ice? If that’s the Rangers plans his agent should publicly demand a trade. Yes that’ll lower his value but how much lower can he got anyways. Drury would be lucky to get a third rounder but it’s likely more like a fourth or fifth. This is poor asset management 101 for sure.

Rf4L

Sun Oct 2 2022 7:14 am EST

The remaining roster breakdown is listed below:Forwards (17): Sammy Blais, Jonny Brodzinski, Ryan Carpenter, Filip Chytil, Julien Gauthier, Barclay Goodrow, Dryden Hunt, Kaapo Kakko, Vitali Kravtsov, Chris Kreider, Alexis Lafrenière, Artemi Panarin, Ryan Reaves, Gustav Rydahl, Vincent Trocheck, Jimmy Vesey, Mika ZibanejadDefensemen (9): Matt Bartkowski, Adam Fox, Libor Hajek, Zac Jones, Ryan Lindgren, K'Andre Miller, Braden Schneider, Jarred Tinordi, Jacob TroubaGoaltenders (3): Louis Domingue, Jaroslav Halak, Igor Shesterkin…louis domingue was placed on waivers…

Stevielegs

Sun Oct 2 2022 6:47 am EST

“The Rangers brought their training camp roster down to 29 on Saturday, assigning Will Cuylle, Ty Emberson, Tim Gettinger, Lauri Pajuniemi and Andy Welinski to AHL Hartford.”….https://nypost.com/2022/10/02/rangers-jimmy-vesey-seems-destined-to-make-opening-night-roster/

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 9:36 pm EST

Flint loses to Niagara 3 2. Othmann scores both Flint goals is a + 1 and leads all players for both teams with 7 shots on net. Impressive.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 1 2022 8:14 pm EST

WTH are they doing for team building in Rhode Island? Conducting tours at Marble House? Sailing on the America’s Cup course? Sheesh.

Bob

Sat Oct 1 2022 8:13 pm EST

Hospo - 2 factors…GG has his pets and Panarin has his. Once I saw Bread mentoring Kravtsov, I knew he was gonna get as much slack as possible to keep that spot. GG is not unlike most coaches…he has his “boys” who he favors regardless of what seems to be common sense. Goody was an excellent get for this team but he should not be getting 1st line RW when Kakko & Laf are avilable. Let’s not forget what a jumbled lineup we had for much of the season…looks like we’re heading that way again.

JFC31

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:45 pm EST

JFC - It was TDCHI!...i like Goodrow ALOT and he was a great signing...but GOODROW on the 1st line, even healthy, given the talent the Rangers have on the "3rd line" is as silly as Goodrow on a 8 minute a night 4th line..As slly as forcing a done nothing Krapshot on to the other Top 6 RW ,again, given the talent already on the "3rd line"...Some times kids or players force their way onto lines with scoring and good play and that would be fair but with Krappy it's all about his past non perfromance/attitude/draft spot/waiver status holding a gun to the Rangers head....The kid can skate and I hear he can play on the fly, but is that Panarin's game???

Hospo

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:25 pm EST

Someone recently listed on The Wall that Goodrow was gonna end up on the Top Line and that heads we’re gonna explode. Was it you, TD? Anyway, here it is today from Vince Mercogliano at camp: “ Top 3 lines look like this:Kreider – Zib – Goodrow Panarin – Trocheck – KravtsovLaf – Chytil – KakkoThen there are two groups of four:Blais - Hunt - Carpenter - ReavesVesey - Brodzinski - Rydahl - Gauthier” GOODROW 1st line RW…PSSSSH! Sorry, it’s just ridiculous!

JFC31

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:19 pm EST

Othmans first goal...proceeded by a big hit by him on the same shift. https://twitter.com/DaveyUpper/status/1576355983244525569?s=20&t=mSJYbmldXfgfnyX7HaY7rQ

Wildcard

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:18 pm EST

Rhode Island is an interesting place for team bonding. Was this a multi year deal signed when DQ was here?

ColoradoMark

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:17 pm EST

Othmann has scored the first two goals of the season for Flint who now lead 2-0 tonight. Clearly not moping around after not getting a longer look at the NHL level.

Wildcard

Sat Oct 1 2022 5:38 pm EST

RF$L - Honestly, SCREW THE KID LINE!! And I say that liking all 3 players and knowing the line could be good...but..yo are paying the top 4 forwards 30-35 mill to get the bulk of the ice time..so... Make your top 2 lines as good as you can (i.e Laffy and Kakkao on Top 6) and they have more than enough NHL capable talent to put together a a good bottom six..But, that's just me

Hospo

Sat Oct 1 2022 5:33 pm EST

Hospo. And perhaps a ‘kid’ line that gets 13 minutes a game. Only in Rangerland.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 1 2022 5:04 pm EST

The likely inclusion of Hunt and Carpenter on the opening roster (and no RYDAHL or a few other players) as well bottom of the barrel on the top 2 lines RW, paying a 4th line center 4 million dollars a year whilehe should be on the 3rd line, the way the Rangers have handled the 6t D spot instead of signing a De Hahn or Beaullieu or whoever (None of Jones, Bartkowski or Tinordi should be in the nHL right now..or in Jones' case being a partner for Schneider)..all are big head scratchers to me..

Hospo

Sat Oct 1 2022 4:36 pm EST

You know Krapentar and Hunt will make the team…

Rf4L

Sat Oct 1 2022 4:33 pm EST

tdchi...the whole line ? really ? Goodrow is excellent, Reaves is feared and a good checker and then there is Hunt ...so again, the whole line ? Really

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 1 2022 3:11 pm EST

Jones has to be traded..simply too small for my liking I called GG myself kololol

vcp1994

Sat Oct 1 2022 3:07 pm EST

Yep rhydal and feces I agree. Hunt is useless carpenter is too slow.

vcp1994

Sat Oct 1 2022 2:06 pm EST

Newfie_Ranger - That fourth line makes me want to barf.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 2:06 pm EST

The Canes sign DeHAAN to a one-year $850K contract. Meanwhile, we have a choice between BARTKOWSKI at probably that amount, TINORDI at $50K more, or HAJEK and JONES.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 2:05 pm EST

Just for "shits and giggles " how about this for opening night forwards...........bearing in mind that the kid line is available as long as they are dressed........Zbad/Kreider/Laffy..Trocheck/Panarin/Kakko....Chytl/Kravtsov/Blais...Goodrow/Hunt/Reaves ??????????????

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 1 2022 12:10 pm EST

11-12 F ,come on guys gimme a break LOL...everyone knows Hunt is there (again GG) I only did this to point out that we are talking about 2 extra F who hang around, and who can contribute more to the team ? It ain't the goat in my opinion. Again why keep him around ...to fill in for whom and where and when ?That's why my vote (like it counts) goes to Rhydal and the other being Vesey.

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:45 am EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·22mThese 17 forwards, plus the 9 defensemen I tweeted and Shesterkin and Halak in net are all that's left in camp. That makes 28 players remaining who are vying for roster spots.Expect everyone else to either be sent down or placed on waivers. (That includes Will Cuylle.) #NYR Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·23mThese 28 are also presumably the group that will be heading to Rhode Island for the team bonding trip. #NYR

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:43 am EST

NEWF…You actually listed 12 forwards including Hunt…Assuming we go with a roster of 23 I believe Vesey and Carpenter will be the additional two…..Would rather it be Rydaul but looks like Carpenter is in no matter what….

PJ

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:41 am EST

Hajek lining up as the 9th dman today. Lol

Rf4L

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:32 am EST

Jones is as ready as he will ever be….He is not physical but is great at moving the puck and makes a good first pass….Could also help on the second unit PP….Not sure what GG thinks of him….Send him down again and he becomes the new Nils in my opinion….

PJ

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:32 am EST

I think they’ll start the season with 23 . My guess is brodinski and rydahl get sent to Hartford to start the season.

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:23 am EST

We dodged a bullet with that guy...Good player. Very injury prone. Wings will come to regret that contract.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:22 am EST

Red Wings center Andrew Copp re-aggravated a core muscle injury back in August that was nagging him last season, resulting in surgery at that time. The expected timeline for recovery put his availability for the start of the season in question but the veteran told reporters including Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press that he feels that he’s ahead of schedule enough to the point where he could be available on October 14th when they take on Montreal. Copp signed a five-year, $28.125MM contract this summer to serve as Detroit’s second-line center following a career year that saw him put up 21 goals and 32 assists in 72 games.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 11:19 am EST

While it would be nice to point to a defensive prospect or two in the system, reality is, the Rangers are set on D for the next two to three years. Maybe longer, depending on how you view their salary cap position. The much more pressing need continues to be centers, even though that position appears to be set for just about as long.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:51 am EST

I can see Hajek at 6, Tinordi at 7 and Jones playing 20 minutes a night in Hartford. If Jones is knocking at the door you can always move Hajek at the deadline. Really disappointed in Robertsons camp. Thought we would see a push from him for the 6th spot. One thing not discussed….our great Dman prospects are dwindling.

Jnyr

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:46 am EST

Newfie_Ranger - I think you're math may be a bit off. Basically, the Rangers are setting up to have 13 forwards, 7 D, and two goalies. Presuming KRAVT is a shoe-in, which is a very incredibly safe presumption, he would be #11(BLAIS-Z-KREIDER, KAKKO-CHYTIL-LAF, KRAVT-TROCHECK-PANARIN, REAVES-GOODROW-XX). If you're including HUNT as a given, you're down to one forward spot left between CARPENTER, who I think is the odds-on favorite, GAUTHIER, and VESEY. D there are two spots, the sixth defender and the benchwarmer. Presuming HAJEK is one of those guys, then the choices are three: Either sign BARTKOWSKI as your warmer, keep JONES up, or let TINORDI stay. Strangely enough and as shitty as BARTKOWSKI has played, he would probably save the Rangers $150K in cap space, since both JONES and TINORDI make $900K...Now there's the wildcard set up that I frankly would go for, which is to keep six defenders, waive TINORDI, demote JONES and keep an extra forward. But I think that's very unlikely.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:37 am EST

PJ - totally agree. And totally expect CARPENTER and HUNT to be in New York when all is said and done. Shitty, but that's the reality of it all.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:34 am EST

On the topic of who's in and who's out..let's look at the numbers. I'm actually looking to be corrected on this post ...feel free :). Ok, ,two goalies only ,correct ? On DEF, we will be keeping 7 guys up ? Probably includes Hajek and Jones but won't include Tinordi ,which makes it won't be 8,correct ? Now before going any further, is 23 the magic # here still for an NHL roster ? If so, we are now at 9 spots. Up front we have Zbad, Kreider, Blais,Trocheck, Panarin, Kravtsov, Chytly,Laffy , Kakko,Reaves,Goodrow and Hunt (GG)..that's 11 forwards + 9 = 20 spots,correct ? This leaves 3 spots to be filled by ....Vesey,Gautier,Carpenter,Rydahl and Brodzinsky. One of these 5 guys will be on a 4th line ,leaving 2 spots for extra fowards. So here is the burning question (LOL) which 2 of the last three will help the team the most ,as a checker,scorer, PK, agressive guy, face-off or cent ,to fill in when needed ?........to quote Chris Stapleton..."Fire Away ". Seriously though, this is what it comes down to , right ?

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:18 am EST

FYI…”At the opposite of déjà vu is a slightly rarer phenomenon — jamais vu, which translates to “never seen” in French. It takes place when you’re in a familiar situation but suddenly feel as if you’re experiencing it for the first time.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 10:14 am EST

My guess is that the Nyr will keep 7 d men. I’ll assume hijack will be one. Who gallant and drury will decide on as forwards are still a mystery to be revealed probably before their James Bonding trip. Who I like or want are fairly meaningless opinions . And you can bet the house the roster will change before and after the trading deadline.

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 9:56 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/10/01/artemi-panarin-impressive-in-rangers-preseason-win-over-devils/

mf

Sat Oct 1 2022 9:54 am EST

TD…Agree all things being equal going in, Carpenter and Hunt didn’t earn a spot….Although relationship with GG trumps all…

PJ

Sat Oct 1 2022 9:09 am EST

College hockey players have a higher graduation rate than the overall student body. That's true of many non football/basketball sports. There are a lot of true student athletes. We just don't see many of them on TV.

HellsKitchen

Sat Oct 1 2022 8:59 am EST

Many play hockey but few are blessed with skill to be a goal scorer. There is an art to it. Never have so many made a mediocre goalie (Blackwood) look so good. That said i think Rydal and Gauthier make the team.

Jake0104

Sat Oct 1 2022 8:28 am EST

Agreed with the general sentiment here on the game: A bunch of forwards who couldn’t put a puck in the ocean and what the hell else is new? The most concerning aspect of that was Chytil once again continuously firing the puck into the goalie. Not encouraging at all.

Rf4L

Sat Oct 1 2022 8:02 am EST

Last night was more of the same...again, Dryden HUNT showed he can't hit the broadside of a barn door with a shot...I mean, talk about GAUTHIER having stone hands...at least he's getting close. HUNT? He belongs in one of two places: The minors or on a bottom feeder's fourth line...CARPENTER. I've tried to get on board with this guy, but man, he's been a total waste of space thus far. I keep reading he's good at faceoffs...well, I ain't seeing it. If he's our option as fourth line center, then really we need to think about having GOODROW in that role. His line wasn't bad, but that was more a result of REAVES playing out of his mind and CUYLLE having a good game as well...If we're on performance, it goes as follows: VESEY/KRAVT probably 1-2, GAUTHIER 3, RYDAHL a very close 4, CUYLLE a very distant 5, BRODZINSKI 6, HUNT and CARPENTER tied at 7. Both of those two should be on the waiver wire. But they won't be...

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:53 am EST

tdchi....for one thing Hunt will be there because GG loves him,so that'a that. On Carpenter..I never said I would keep him over the goat but at least he can play cent and wing and kill penalties. like I said the goat brings nothing to help this team win. He can't play on the top two lines, he can't fit in on the 3rd line that will probably be the kid line a lot of the time and he is not a checker or aggressive enough to be on the 4th ?. That's about as clear as I can make it for you.

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:48 am EST

re: Jack HUGHES - I had the same feeling when he was drafted that I got when TAVARES was drafted by the Islanders. Such a good and likeable player drafted by such a fucking dung heap of a team. I was really hoping the same thing with HUGHES would happen...that he'd play out his contract and then bolt at 26 or 27...but then the goddamn Devils drafted his brother...We're going to have to watch HUGHES for the next decade and it's gonna suck balls...the good news is that the Devils' management is so unbelievably inept that I just can't see them turning things around in any sort of appreciable way...talk about shitting the bed...I wouldn't want to even think about what the Wall would look like if the Rangers did the deals the Devils did this year: ZACHA for HAULA and SMITH for MARINO...And then to take NEMEC over Shane WRIGHT?! That team is trash. And they have a trash coach. It's the one solace I keep with HUGHES as a mainstay.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:44 am EST

PJ - I felt that same feeling watching the game...but man, all you gotta do is go through the list of players not out there and it'll go away quick. There's no question in my mind that the Rangers' key to scoring really will rest with their PP. I think they'll be a decent even-strength team...but that first PP unit is lethal. And at least three members of that unit weren't on the ice last night.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:42 am EST

Newfie_Ranger - re: GAUTHIER, let me put it in different terms: What does Dryden HUNT bring that is better? If you have an answer there, I'd love to hear it. Same with CARPENTER. If we're comparing who should and shouldn't be in the mix, that's what it comes down to: Who's better?

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:37 am EST

Wildcard - That's not stupid at all. If NCAA players attended camp, they would miss close to a month of classes. I know some schools don't take academics as serious as others...but many actually do. Union College, for instance, requires guys to take the exact same rigorous course study as any other student. No underwater basket weaving. You miss three or four weeks of school, you might as well drop out...Again, if you want to point to football and basketball as examples of the NCAA being shit, I'm not gonna disagree. There are so many third-rate colleges that owe their entire existence to DI sports. But hockey? I really can't think of a single college that wouldn't exist without hockey. Like a solid three quarters of them are actually really good schools offering good degrees. And if we're talking about how good programs are, the NCAA is MILES beyond what it was just 15 years ago. Again: Top draft picks staying in college for two and three years after their selection. If you want to say that's shit, you're not reading the room.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 7:29 am EST

ColoradoMark - The way I see it, the Rangers can carry 14 forwards IF they decide to carry only six defensemen. Might get tricky on their first road trip, since they got a back-to-back in Minnesota and Winnipeg, where if someone gets injured, they'd need to basically charter a guy out to the second game...but that's how they'd do it: Keep HAJEK, demote JONES, waive TINORDI...then you can sign VESEY, keep KRAVT and then pick two from CARPENTER, HUNT, GAUTHIER and RYDAHL...Capwise? They could try to shoehorn a guy under the cap...but the two most likely candidate...JONES and TINORDI...both make $900K+ and would leave the team with about $100,000 in space.

tdchi

Sat Oct 1 2022 6:45 am EST

Those wondering about Talyn Boyko. He turned 20 before December 31st. This means he is eligible for the AHL. I asked a few folks, and they all said the same thing. SO he is eligible for the AHL, so he can break sent to camp there, even if they decide to send him to Junior for the season. He is on a tryout, so that needs to change if they don't assign him.

Wildcard

Sat Oct 1 2022 5:09 am EST

“Othmann, 19, collected two assists in two preseason games. He was not eligible to be sent to Hartford of the AHL.The Rangers had the option of playing the right wing in up to nine regular-season games without triggering his entry-level contract, but the team shipped him out before the three-day team-bonding exercise next week in Providence.”

Stevielegs

Sat Oct 1 2022 12:06 am EST

Great game territorially for the Rangers as they dominated most of the game…The bad news is the lineup had the can’t score contingent playing….JBRO, Hunt, Gauthier, Vesey and Kravtsov couldn’t convert numerous good chances…Even add Chytil to that list tonight….Rydahl is much better than Carpenter who has done nothing to earn a spot…Goodrow looked a little rusty to me….Jones was fine but still gets overwhelmed at times by the physical game…Bartkowski and Tinordi need to go…..Halak looked solid …Jack Hughes is terrific but I just want to see him run through the boards…He bugs the shit out of me…

PJ

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:59 pm EST

NEWFIE _ I don't think he produces either but he has played well this pre-season..All one can ask...Just can't put the puck in the net..A lot Like Marcel Hossa was for us (Gene Carr too!)..I don't mind holding on to him, but I can see another team taking a chance on him for a mid-late pick

Hospo

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:47 pm EST

I see No spot for Gautier on this team. He is such a "dime a dozen " player. He brings nothing to the table and can help us in no way .There is nothing he does on the ice that helps us win. JMHO Sorry ):

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:09 pm EST

WILD - MY bad, I meant top six forwards (should have said Top 2 lines) instead of TOP 6 D...I love the D..Personally, I like HAJAK a lot more than Jones for now and would start him opening night..but can see them being switched out based on perfromance or opponent until somebody just take the job like SCHNIEDER did last year

Hospo

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:55 pm EST

Hospo: I think the top 6 D is going to be Fox/Lindgren - Miller/Trouba - Jones/Schneider with hake as the 7th. But like I said earlier, if a team they are playing is particularly heavy and not so swift of foot, they may put Hajek in since he has more size and cans still skate well (aka he isnt Tinordi) Jones stillahs some issues with heavy players and he always will. SO its not out of question that they keep the #7 fresh with games here and there and choose the games where Jones is most vulnerable.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:50 pm EST

Ooops.."Back to RYDAHL"

Hospo

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:49 pm EST

FO aside, RYDAHL has impressed me every night and I like all the scouting videos from his play in the SEL..HAs made the adjustment nicely..He has earned a spot..well..so has Vesey and maybe even Gauthier..But back to after the season beginsRYDAHL, has played well enoght to win a spot but not likely ..We'll see him soon enough

Hospo

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:43 pm EST

Rydal's FO performance was his weak spot. Noy sure if it was just a bad nigh or he is that weak there. He's 28 and not likely to improve at it.

HellsKitchen

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:43 pm EST

Under the radar .. Chytil was 69% in FO 's ... any improvement there would be significant for a 40% career guy to date .. Zibad and Trocheck should both be over 50%

sjw

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:42 pm EST

Missed most of the game again..Caught the last 15 minutes..In that little snap shot..what impressed me was VESEY and 2-3 minute of good hockey for Hunt-RYDAHL-GAUTHIER....SCHNEIDER looks confident....MILLER is gonna break out just like LAFFY..I don't know what Bartkowski and Tinordi looked like, or I don't want to say..Rangers have alot of NHL capable depth...Can they settle on a decent Top 6?

Hospo

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:42 pm EST

Newfie: Rydahl is a good player, he isnt flashy at all. But damn, the guy can skate, and he does a lot of good little things. Dont know about his draws...faceoffs int e pre season are so odd. At one point (near the end of the game) Chytil was 4 for 4 against Hughes...I mean...what? SO while Rydahl didnt win a lot of draws tonight, clearly it wasnt a good representation, unless Chytil has suddenly become a force there. Face-offs could be a big determining factor for GG for the 4th line C spot...and maybe they decide to let Rydahl show waht he can do with PK and stuff in the AHL to start. He is waivers exempt, soI sort of expect him to be sent down. I mean I could see him be sent down, but used like the 13th F since he can be called up and waived at will.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:33 pm EST

Count me in on Rydal....and I like Halak,great pick up !

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:27 pm EST

andrei: Agreed. Gauthier has clearly put in the effort to get better and to bring more physicality...he has gotten much better off the puck...but damn...he sun can not buy a goal..just doesnt have it. I feel for him...I really do.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:27 pm EST

Halak was great

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:27 pm EST

Vesey has turned his PTO into a contract…

JFC31

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:26 pm EST

Rf4L: His defensive play there late was pretty good. I will say it again. I would be OK with him as the spare F. But not a regular.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:25 pm EST

Jimmy’s Feces. Lolol. He sux.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:22 pm EST

Cuylle thumps down Hughes. Love it. Hughes is so skilled but makes himself vulnerable to big hits like that one. He’s small and will stay small - if he doesn’t adjust he’s facing lots of pain…

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:21 pm EST

Gauthier, man or man. You got to give him a credit for trying, but it is not enough. All I see is a borderline NHL'er. Hands of stone, very little hockey sense...

andrei

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:16 pm EST

JFC. Agreed 101%

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:14 pm EST

Gauthier cannot score for the life of him. Feel bad for him.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 8:11 pm EST

Rhydal continues to impress me…he’s big, he’s fast & he knows what he’s doing. AFAIAC, he looks way better than Carpenter.

JFC31

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:59 pm EST

This is how you do it... It's not how hard do you shoot, it is 100% accuracy.

andrei

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:59 pm EST

Schneider with a fab pass. The offensive upside of this kid goes under the radar…

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:59 pm EST

Nice pass by Schneider…I think he’s gonna have a great season!

JFC31

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:58 pm EST

Nice shot! P needs to shoot more.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:52 pm EST

Newfie: Nahhh...you knew at least once Gauthier would do that off the wall high speed cut to the front and have it go in...I mean it would go in once out of liek 20 times doing it...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:45 pm EST

I'm pretty sure if we used a line of Brod-Hunt-Goat together for a full 82 game schedule, they would have 0 goals, 0 assists for 0 pts...LOL

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:43 pm EST

RF- Your GM Suit would be a Grim Reaper costume, lol!

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:33 pm EST

Cuylle needs to go back to junior!!!

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:29 pm EST

RF- It was Spicy Pork, not sausage! C'mon study the details!

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:29 pm EST

Hunt projected that pass sooooooo bad. Good on Gauthier getting the shot off solid...but Hunt made it clear that was the only option on his mind.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:27 pm EST

They got al excited about Hughes...but Trouba kept pace with him...is something wrong with Hughes? I seem to remember him being able to accelerate to another gear to get around D....or becsaue its pre season he isnt pressing at 100%?

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:25 pm EST

And my god Tinordi sucks. LOL

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:24 pm EST

OK so that last sequence with Jones defending...last year he wpoudlnt have done that...he would have turned around to skate with the guy or tried to position himself for the break up the ice and reached for the puck then used his skating to get into the next position if it didnt work. Instead he jsut put himself in defensive position, sacrificing the ability to just turn up the ice as easily if he broke up the play and didnt force himself to rely on his feet...big change, and what I said he needed to do in order to stick in the NHL. Very good to see. I also always said he would get there, because he isnt stupid and it wasnt from a lack of ability, but a lack of need. He was so good in NCAA that he could do it the other way and get away with it every time. He jsut needed to adjust.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:20 pm EST

Chytil is on another level now. Watch out. Kid is just starting to scratch the surface of what he can become in a few years, when he will enter his prime. Just looks like a different player. Keep Kids line together and watch them all three take a huge step up. If projected lines pan out, Rangers will have a sick depth across all four lines. Might be the deepest lineup since, what, 94 team?

andrei

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:16 pm EST

Rf4L: You mean conundrum....becsaue he is making nice plays with the puck, stick handling in a phone booth as it were...but when he has a pass come to him to shoot or a rebound..he is messing it up...I mean come on kid!!

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:16 pm EST

andrei. Agreed 100%

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:15 pm EST

That Sausage eating goalie sucks. Farm him out.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:15 pm EST

andrei: At the same time, as discussed yesterday...it would-be nice if there was a way to have Othmann in the AHL. He will need to learn the pro game no matter when he arrives, and I think he is close enough to start that...but he cant...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:14 pm EST

Chytil = stonehands tonight.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:13 pm EST

Newfie: Good point...for all Reaves flaws..understanding the game and knowing how to play it isnt one of them. Now granted he doesnt have the skill to be a top player, but he sure as hell knows the game...I could see him being a good coach someday.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:13 pm EST

Glad to see Rangers finally realizing that rushing prospects often does not pay out the way they had planned out. Absolutely, a right decision to sent Othmann back to juniors. Can't stress it enough, kids need time to develop.

andrei

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:12 pm EST

andrei: Yes...pick corners...int he AHL..he does it there...I have seen it...I watch the Pack play. But thats my point...in the AHL he does that, but int he NHL he is unable to do so...its so strange that its so stark.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:11 pm EST

I think Panarin is trying to help Krav get a goal. He is forcing pucks to him. Lets hope that goes away...I mean, if the kid can get one maybe Bread will not do it anymore...but it sure looks liek he is trying to help him...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:08 pm EST

Wild, pick corners? JBro can't even get it on the net. Someone with the better hands would have had 4-5 goals by now.

andrei

Fri Sep 30 2022 7:06 pm EST

Carpenter SUCKS! A cross ice pass inside his blueline and GOAL by the Devils. Keeping him over Rhydal will be just dumb.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:52 pm EST

Wild..and not only does he goes to where he wants but he actually KNOWS where to be .............it works for him and for us.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:51 pm EST

COMark: What always blows my mind with JBro is that he gets the chances, in the AHL he seems to pick corners and beat goalies with a good quick release...but int he NHL, even when he is against backups (who would be starters in the AHL) he cant seem to do the same thing...I mean, he cant even pick corners. It jsut goes to show how much more intense the NHL is and how that speed steals that little bit of time you need to make the play jsut a bit better...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:49 pm EST

Rf4L: But Carpenter does win draws...and since thats been a big issue for this team...I dont see that being a real thing...I mean in the way of it happening, not one being better than the other...jsut usage and who is risked on waivers if one of them is.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:43 pm EST

Gauthier > Carpenter.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:40 pm EST

The Devils broadcast crew blows away Nosendick.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:37 pm EST

RF- At least J Brodz is a good energy guy for an emergency Gallup. But he can't score at the NHL level.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:37 pm EST

RF- True on Panarin, but he also had some incredible feeds that made it.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:36 pm EST

Farm out stone hands Brodinski ASAP please.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:36 pm EST

This is quite a period. Rangers with a lot more speed and tenacity. Reaves impacting the game. Gauthier with some nice play. J Brodz also noticeable. It's been pretty dominant, Blackwood is going to need fluids between periods.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:35 pm EST

Rf4L: Gauthier has impressed me a few times with his passing...something that may have happened 1 or 2 times every 4 or 5 games int he past, has happened a few times in his limited pre season showings this year. Not to say he has turned some corner and will suddenly be a top player...but its good to see...and good for him he hasn't given up trying o improve his game.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:35 pm EST

I know it’s his 1st period of the preseason but P is picking up where he left off with give aways. Nice.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:34 pm EST

Devils complete unable to handle the big guys on the Rangers...I know Reaves isn't the best skilled, but he is going where he wants when he wants around the net...I know its not their regular D and not one pair is normally together...but still...not a good showing against strong players.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:33 pm EST

Beauty setup by Gauthier. Hunt of course doesn’t score.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:28 pm EST

Someone said Gauthier was a late(ish) add to the lineup tonight over whats his name...(starts with a P, I can pronounce it but not spell it LOL) Is there a chance that a team is talking trade? And they are playing him to up his value, or hopefully up it? Nothing really go off to come up with that, but its that or GG is struggling to decide who he will keep or if Gauthier is too valuable to risk waivers with. Or maybe they cant get a team to take him without adding a piece and they are hoping to raise his value enough to get someone to take him off waivers...thats a possibility as well if I am jsut putting out possibilities...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:25 pm EST

Love that Trouba jsut stepped into that shot there coming int he zone...need to do that now and again to keep the goalie and the D guessing. Not a real high chance to score, but if you never do that the other team can ignore that and be ready for the pretty plays.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 6:13 pm EST

C’mon Krav….shoot the puck quicker than that! Great set-up by Cheeto!

JFC31

Fri Sep 30 2022 5:22 pm EST

E: The only way he could be hurt by it is if he and the coaches allow bad habits to form. If he is mentally strong enough to keep challenging himself to do all the little things correct he will be fine.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:59 pm EST

td: And that emphasizes how stupid the NCAA is. If they allowed kids to be part of things liek training camps (that are not paid) they would be able to build their programs because more kids would feel it was a good route for success and improvement.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:57 pm EST

Othmann plays physical and players know it. And they’re gonna knock his ass around. I think it’s good that he was fighting thru it and pushing back against it. But there is a huge difference between lining up against some 6’3 180lb kid and some 6’3 fully developed man. Especially if he’s trying to keep his roster spot on his team because he has a wife and 2 kids at home that he supports. He’s not gonna let you take it to him. That’s kind of why I felt that Othmann was better served in the AHL. He’s the kind of guy that will benefit from those hard times on the ice where he is gonna have to stand in there and deal. I think he’ll be better for it. But I don’t think he’s being hurt by going down to Jr. He’s got a good career ahead. He has a good future in front of him

E

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:46 pm EST

E- But can the Rangers carry 14 forwards and not hurt their deadline cap? I think they risk sending Hunt down to make Vesey 13th forward. No matter what Gaut has to go. Is he traded or waived to Hartford? Does he clear?

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:45 pm EST

Did anyone see this gem from Zucc about Torts? https://www.reddit.com/r/rangers/comments/xrgykh/dropping_gloves_take_your_sht_with_you_down_to/

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:44 pm EST

TD- Yes, TIMMAY and Welinski- are on waivers, but not technically assigned to the AHL. Just like Smith and Elson weren't officially sent down until today. Technically they are still in camp.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:28 pm EST

E - definitely. And man, you can see that through OTHMANN. He was getting the shit beat out of him in both games.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:25 pm EST

I'm not going to sit here and say the NCAA is perfect...and I think in terms of football and basketball, they 199 percent due criticism. You can't look at those stadiums and the viewership on television...but college hockey?! Talk about a loss-leader. Those programs don't make squat. And for most large schools, the whole fucking team is on a free ride, so those athletes, if they choose to finish out their degree can end up saving something to the effect of a half-million dollars in tuition and assorted fees...and I'll say this too: NCAA hockey isn't like football and basketball, because it doesn't have nearly the monopoly over the top players. In fact, colleges need to really sell themselves to top players because there are any number of places they can land before their 21st birthday...In truth, I give the colleges a lot of credit for not only attracting, but retaining top players...many of whom could walk onto an NHL team whenever they want. Take Owen POWER, for instance. The fact he was drafted first overall and STILL went to Michigan says A LOT. The dude could've signed on the dotted line and made $1 million last season on the Sabres. But he went back to school. Does that sound like a kid that the NCAA is taking advantage of? Not in my book.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 4:11 pm EST

ColoradoMark - TIMMMAY!!! Is already on waivers.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:53 pm EST

Lineup tonight….https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1575910409579610112?s=20

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:40 pm EST

TD: and it’s a big step to play with men over boys. Lot to deal with if you’re just a kid.

E

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:40 pm EST

Sending Othmann back to Flint to me was a no brainer and correct decision. First there’s no room for him. Second IMO he’s not physically ready (especially given he edge he plays with). 3. Barring a major injury he’ll have a dominant final year of junior perhaps leading his team to a Memorial Cup appearance and play a huge role for Canada’s WJC club. Good decision Drury!

Rf4L

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:36 pm EST

I think Gauth is out and Vesey is in. And there is no reason to overthink it. Every coach has that guy that they just like that other people don’t get. For GG it’s Hunt. So I expect him on the team.

E

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:35 pm EST

NCAA is a scam when it comes to student athletes. Making all that bank off a students face and allowing them no chance to earn on their own. As far as I’m concerned a student athlete should be like anyone. And if they wanna lever their athletic celebrity they should be able to. I see no difference in this anymore than the barista on the quad making espresso. Or the kid who works at Target to earn some money.

E

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:19 pm EST

My prediction after tonights game: Sent to hartford: Welinski, Gettinger, Emberson, Cuylle. Pajuniemi might get a game but it's only a matter of days. J Brodz and Tinordi will be put on waivers. I also expect Bartkowski to be released from his PTO, but maybe he signs to play in Haartford? RYDAHL will be sent down just because he can be. Then that leaves the decision on HUNT, GAUTHIER, VESEY and I have no idea what the Rangers will do. Gallant loves HUNT, Vesey has played well and probably makes the most sense as 13th forward. Doubt they keep 14. Maybe Gauth gets traded after being showcased? He's probably played well enough to generate a little interest from people who haven't seen him for the last three years, lol.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:11 pm EST

I thought Travigno could play both center and wing

Jnyr

Fri Sep 30 2022 3:09 pm EST

By the way, for all the "D" depth the Rangers have which allowed us to trade Lundkvist, interesting that the Rangers only have three unsigned D prospects: The amazing Hank Kempf, Vittorio Mancini and Simon Kjellberg. So after our top 7 (Assuming Hajek and Jones), the Rangers have Emberson, Robertson, Skinner, Scanlin and Welinski. I fyou want to count Tinordi and Bartkowski, whatever. But I can't say any of those three unsigned guys are a lock for a contract, and while the 5 in Hartford are probably solid AHL players, Robertsonis the only one I think has a future in the NHL. WINGS and GOALIES are our primary depth right now.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:51 pm EST

and the thing is...they could sign ATO's unpaid tryouts, but NCAA says they cant have anything paid for...becsaue its not fair...I mean "fair" that because one player isn't good enough to make it pro that the ones that are good enough cant take steps to improve more...there is nothing fair about that...at all.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:49 pm EST

td: they are trash because the NCAA rules cross over sports. They punish kids for sharing cars with each other (yeah that happened at UCONN) they force them to be unable to take jobs as other students can get. NCAA is trash...the take advantage student athletes, and don't allow them to get better...out of some silly idea about competitive balance...as if it makes things worse that athletes get better...its archaic...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:44 pm EST

Wildcard - No NCAA players play in camp, not even if they pay their own way. Just never happens. Not unless they're under contract or on a PTO. They play in rookie camps, but that's about it. Also not sure what you mean about the NCAA being trash. Maybe with basketball and football...but hockey? C'mon. Outside of maybe UMinn and BC/BU, there isn't a hockey program out there that makes a ton of money.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:37 pm EST

Of course if that was the case, why wouldn't they send the other junior kids there until the AHL season starts, and get them more time with pros...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:28 pm EST

Jnyr - It's because NCAA players aren't and cannot be under contract. If BERARD dropped outta school, he could sign a PTO. But for liability reasons alone, the Rangers wouldn't let college kids show up to camp. NCAA rules also prohibit them from taking money. And if all that wasn't enough? Their season starts this weekend. Most of them have been in camp with their respective teams since the start of the month.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:26 pm EST

It might be as simple as, he isn't going to play games there...I am going to ask around and see if I can get an answer though.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:24 pm EST

COMark on Boyko I have no idea...I have never seen anything about it....I don't think I have ever seen it happen before.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:23 pm EST

I wonder if PAJUNIEMI is sick. Hard to imagine Trocheck is the only one who came down with something in a crowded setup liek training camp.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:22 pm EST

And can anyone of you rules guru explain to me how Talyn Boyko is able to attend AHL training camp? He's not signed and he is still 19.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:21 pm EST

Okay, coolest name of the day: Edmonton signs "Maximus Wanner"

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:19 pm EST

The only real interesting part of who is still in camp: PAJUNIEMI (who was supposed to play tonight but looks like GAUTH took his spot) and Emberson. I figured everyone else still around would be here the end, but wasn't counting on those two.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:16 pm EST

JNYR- Trivigno and Berard are both wingers. But they would be an antogonizing line for sure. For laughs I would have Rempe (6-8) center the two mini mites.

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:11 pm EST

I had this thought…Travigno centering a Brerard down road would be a lot of fun to watch

Jnyr

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:05 pm EST

TIMMMMAY!!!! Oooon waivers.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:03 pm EST

@NYRangers·3mOFFICIAL: #NYR cut Training Camp roster by 8 players: Turner Elson, Karl Henriksson, Patrick Khodorenko, Olof Lindbom, Brandon Scanlin + C.J. Smith are assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Brennan Othmann has been returned to Flint of OHL + Adam Edstrom has been assigned to Rogle BK of SHL.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:02 pm EST

OTHMANN to FLINT, EDSTROM to ROGLE, ELSON, HENRIKSSON, KHORDENKO, LINDBOM, SCANLIN, SMITH all sent to Hartford

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 30 2022 2:00 pm EST

Hells: He could pay his own way. But that means everything...food, hotel, equipment including sticks, and he would have to reimburse for any medical issues. Its a big deal....again...because the NCAA is trash.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 1:57 pm EST

Berard is going to play for Providence in the NCAA this season with his brother. Being in camp would be an NCAA violation.

HellsKitchen

Fri Sep 30 2022 1:56 pm EST

Jnyr: I didnt even think of it until you posted that. I wonder if its because he couldn't afford it. He is NCAA and the NCAA is trash, so if the Rangers paid for anything he would violate his status....I know there are some waiver of sorts for development camps and such, but not for trying to make a pro team. Otherwise, I have no idea why he isn't there...

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 1:39 pm EST

I don’t see Brett Berard in camp. Does anyone know why this is

Jnyr

Fri Sep 30 2022 1:23 pm EST

Colin Stephenson@ColinSNewsday·2hGG said Chytil is going to come over and play in place of Trocheck. Gauthier and Bartkowski also will be playing, after playing last night. #NYR

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 30 2022 1:20 pm EST

looks like LAFFY stepped up his game and the PO experience help him. For Jones would like to see him on the 2nd unit PP. Hopefully he plays tonight!

Jerry_Garcia

Fri Sep 30 2022 12:48 pm EST

Brodzinski with panarin = hilarious he and hunt need to go bye bye

vcp1994

Fri Sep 30 2022 11:52 am EST

PJ: I am kind of wondering if like Reaves, who appress to be destine for being scratched when they don't need his size and mentality as much, that Jones and Hajek will be rotated based on opponent, until/if one of them makes it impossible to take them out. Hajek is a bigger, and doesnt get pushed around as easy, Jones is better with the puck and a better skater.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:53 am EST

Hospo - My FULL expectation is that if we don't see BLAIS on first and GOODROW on second to start the season, we'll see one or the other and then both as the season wears on. Given what I've seen from KRAVTSOV thus far, I just can't see GALLANT keeping him in the top six. And given what I've seen from the 'kid' line, I also don't see him breaking them up...So BLAIS on first, GOODROW on second. Big storm a' comin'...Rangers Twitter will make Ian look like drizzle.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:50 am EST

PJ - No argument here. TINORDI was a fucking turnstile last season. But given what I've seen from GALLANT, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's our seventh defender. He played well against Boston. Granted, one stupid pre-season game and the B's were pretty much a taxi squad...But my thinking is that he's going to want an experienced defender in the 6-7 spots...and JONES-HAJEK won't give him that. Also could see him using TINORDI to sit REAVES and add muscle to the lineup. So if fourth line ends up being something like GOODROW-CARPENTER-BLAIS or some derivative of it...throw TINORDI in as your sixth. Give him 13-15 minutes and then double shift K'Andre/LINDGREN occasionally with SCHNEIDER.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:08 am EST

I see both sides of the argument...A guy like OTHMANN? He's got the talent, for sure, to play in the AHL. And part of me says that if he leaves, then that's another spot open in the OHL for a young player to jump into...the pandemic showed how well playing above your level really worked with players across the spectrum, interestingly enough, OTHMANN himself. Guys who played in the AHL and European leagues during the pandemic ended up coming back and dominating juniors this past year...CUYLLE is the same...and then you had guys that in-filled juniors, like Connor BEDARD. That dude made the WHL his bitch as a goddamn 15-year-old! But all that said, there's an emotional component to hockey and throwing a kid who isn't more than a few days older than 18 into the deep end with little support structure...well...it can be a mess...One guy that comes to mind is Tyler SEGUIN. He came into the league WAAAAY too early...and then he played overseas, where he didn't have his family...at first...and supposedly he was a hot mess over there. Think about being 19 or 20...having hundreds of thousands of dollars at your disposal and being in fucking Europe by yourself...SEGUIN came back and was an even bigger mess. Apparently got deep into cocaine from what I heard and was just getting sloppy. Which is why the Bruins essentially gave him away, pennies on the dollar...Granted, dropping a kid in downtown Hartford ain't the same...but there's no question that OTHMANN has a lot of growing up to do no matter how mature he may be. And it's better to do that growing up in the structured environment that the CHL provides, albeit loosely, than to leave that type of emotional development in the hands of the Hartford staff. Can it work? SURE! Does it always? No. And frankly, I see ONLY advantage to having him go back to the OHL...First and foremost because he lost a fucking season to COVID. Secondly, that he had ONE breakout season. Let him repeat and do it again. Thirdly, there's a VERY good chance he gets a top role on Team Canada in December. Wouldn't doubt it at all if he gets a letter. Maybe even gets the captaincy...NTM, I believe Flint has most of it's team returning this season, which should make them a strong contender for a championship...the only REAL loser in all of this is OTHMANN, because he ain't going to get one step closer to free agency...so to sum up for the TL;DNR folks out there: Larry Brooks is a porridge-brained dick choker who couldn't spit out an original thought someone had those shriveled up rabbit terds he calls testicles pinched in a vice.

tdchi

Fri Sep 30 2022 9:08 am EST

Tinordi didn’t see time last year because he didn’t deserve it….He was actually worse than Nemeth….When Nemeth failed the traded for Braun….Hoping it is Hajek or Jones on the third pair…

PJ

Fri Sep 30 2022 5:46 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/29/silly-nhl-rule-adds-layer-to-rangers-brennan-othmann-decision/

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 30 2022 5:45 am EST

“After waiving forwards Turner Elson and C.J Smith, according to Cap Friendly, the Rangers also sent 19 players to Hartford to trim their roster down to 40 players. The names of note heading to the AHL include Matthew Robertson, Talyn Boyko, Dylan Garand and Bobby Trivigno.”

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 29 2022 11:41 pm EST

Othmann should be on the NYR. Whether he could hold his roster spot is debatable. I still don’t see any reason for him to go to Jr. He’s past that phase. His performance for Canada was exhibit A. And he didn’t look phased at all against men. And he’ll assert his game. He will fill out. I truly wish he could be in the A. But I also see nothing detrimental about sending him down to Jr.

E

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:24 pm EST

Incidentally, it would not surprise me at all to see the Rangers start with HAJEK and TINORDI fighting for the right to play on SCHNEIDER'S flank. Didn't think Big T had a bad game his first outing and ultimately, I think the reason he got bounced last season was because they couldn't really do shit with NEMETH. I could see HAJEK starting the year and TINORDI swapping in for him whenever they face a bruising team...I think JONES starts in Hartford because he'll get top minutes there, as opposed to either platooning with HAJEK or getting odd games.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:19 pm EST

RF4L—-That tweet is brilliant. While I am not in favor of the juniors rules that are in place just to protect the Canadian junior leagues, I am in favor of the Rangers having to send young kids back. Based on their history of handling young kids……..it cannot have a worse outcome than they have had to date. As CO MARK mentioned…..the contract also slides.

Bob

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:17 pm EST

TDCHI - Agree with alot, except maybe the GAUTHIER (not that he has been bad) and the placement of the 4 Million Dollar Man on the 4th line....and "but at some point, you've got to wonder whether keeping it together is worth potentially hamstringing your top two lines"..I used "handcuffed" but whatever..:)

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:14 pm EST

RF4L - EASY ROD...EASY ROD!!! Don't be Tweeting disagreements with Brooksie. He'll block you faster than he soils his Depends.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:10 pm EST

Welp, I thought maybe the offense would do a little more than sputter, but can't say I'm surprised by the outcome. That D was...well...atrocious. BARTKOWSKI I remember being a tough, serviceable defenseman when he played with the P-Bruins and Boston...man, he's slipped. Bad. WELINSKI, surprise, surprise, is an AHL defenseman on a good day...and SCANLIN? He was the best out of the bottom three and even that would be barely enough to make Hartford...Patrick KHODORENKO is a guy I just continue to not understand. He was a pretty good signing out of college, but he did nothing to impress me in either his first or second year in the AHL...and I really think one of the main reasons he's still in the organization is that they simply don't have many center prospects...I'd cut all four tomorrow...GETTINGER...he had his moments, but not enough to stay. He'd be number five...Now onto the guys I liked: Libor HAJEK had another solid, if not unspectacular game on D. I think he would be a good pairing for SCHNEIDER...HENRIKSSON had his moments too. He's Hartford-bound, for sure, but the kid is fast and has a lot of energy...REALLY like Adam EDSTROM. I'm not surprised, because I loved what I saw of him on Rogle...He's a lot faster than I thought he was and for a big guy? He's got some skill. Keep an eye on this one next year...The GOAT. I still think GAUTHIER is on waivers in a week or so, but I think he's definitely show himself as one of the top four candidates for the three open forward spots(two, considering one will assuredly go to KRAVTSOV). He had another strong game and is again doing all the things folks want him to do...OTHMANN...man, he's at the top of the list among non-roster forwards...THE best skater who isn't assured a roster spot...and that includes KRAVT. It's not even close, really. VESEY is a distant number two...but OTHMANN is the best. Any other year he'd be on this team. No doubt. But there's just no room and even if they did decide to keep him, his salary is on the higher end of the spectrum. I thought maybe they'd keep him for 10 games...but that will mean at least one good player on waivers or not signed...He'll be back in juniors this fall, but I'm sure someone in the Ranger organization will explain that it's a numbers game...simple as that...And lastly, Olaf LINDBOM did surprise me...he wasn't nearly as terrible as I figured he'd be...but that said...he'll have plenty of time to work on his game in Hartford...everything else? Sammy BLAIS looked good for his first game back, but faded bigtime as the game went on...and the line that looked great in the first 10 minutes started to look very reminiscent of the dreaded HUNT-STROME-PANARIN line from last season. Frankly at this point, the forwards I'd keep are KRAVT, GAUTHIER and VESEY...and I'd give any one of them a chance on that top line before BLAIS, TBH. Second line too, if we're laying it all out there...the "kid line" was fantastic again...but at some point, you've got to wonder whether keeping it together is worth potentially hamstringing your top two lines...LAF should be with Z and KAKKO with TROCHECK. KRAVT should join CHYTIL with either VESEY or GAUTHIER. And the bottom line should be BLAIS and GOODROW with REAVES or VESEY or GAUTHIER. It's the natural order of things...but it's also in direct contrast to what GALLANT will do.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:58 pm EST

"theater" shoud be "the other

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:48 pm EST

Hospo: theater thing is the stuff we don't get to see. Maybe Krav looks uncomfortable off the ice even talking with other guys...I mean he did not have the best interactions with the team from reports...immature to say the least, so maybe he is feeling something of an outsider...and maybe Panarin just took to the kid, and the kid is relaxed with him. If they have chemistry naturally...I think it would be stupid to not see if it worked on the ice. I mean, again, we don't get to see that stuff the way a coach would.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:45 pm EST

Rangers just outworked by Devils….Just not much life and Bartkowski played poorly as did Welinski….The rest of the D looked ok…Blais looked good considering and Laff looked good as well…Would have liked more from Kakko….Not that he played poorly but he needs production this year….Just preseason but hope for a better effort tomorrow night..

PJ

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:40 pm EST

JFC/WILD - I pretty much agree with JFC..but am trying to see where GG is coming from...I can see wanting BLAIS and his hitting and forechecking finding a home on the Top 6 and seeing if it sticks against the odds...Maybe he will but i just see him as a square peg for the Top 6 round hole...And then you have Krappy's waiver status complicating matters and why the Rangers are giving him a shot on a silver platter..In the interim, until they flop or succeed, the kid line gives him chemistry on a 3rd line....Don't like the plan, but I can see it....And I HATE Goodrow on a 4th line!!!!!!

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:28 pm EST

Hospo - funny, I mostly am on board with GG’s performance as coach, too. He’s once again gotten good resukts in his 1st year with a team and his players seem to respond well to his style. I just don’t agree with his handling of Laf & Kakko (although KK did get Too 6 until his injury) and think the future and present is better with them in the Top 6 now. Again, it’s about wanting them to reach their potential ASAP and 13 minutes ain’t gonna get them there ASAP…it’s gonna be an unnecessary delay in this team reaching its peak. GG seems willing to “experiment” with Blais at the expense of others when his career path doesn’t warrant it. What was that expression in the 70’s? Today is the 1st day of the rest of your life…with Kakko & Laf that should be the motto…their development is gonna determine so much, so let’s get them there NOW instead of playing around with GG’s hunch, for lack of a better term.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:22 pm EST

Conversely if the top line clicks and looks great with Blais but the second line doesnt, then Laf or Kakko could be moved there ion pace of Krav. Its not just if the second line looks good. But just that the kids can be used to adjust...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:21 pm EST

Hospo: My thought was Laf of Kakko on the top line...but again I wonder about that idea of having one line that is a known quantity. That will be figured out pretty fast. If he goes with the lines that people are talking about now and runs game 1 with the kid line, and if the top lines struggles and the second line looks good, if I am right, he will make a change. maybe not in game 1, thats a quick trigger...maybe nt even the first week. GG isn't all that quick to change things at times...so he may give the lines times toggle a little. But after the first couple games if the top line isn't doing well, and the second line looks good...or if neither do...then I would think he makes changes...if he doesnt than he didnt keep the kid line together just to have a good lien to start.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:18 pm EST

JFC - Plain and simple, LAFFY is ready for Top 6..and is heads above anybody else....with Kakkao being second..I understand the kid line thing, it has some chemistry and it will do better against weaker matchups, but the top 2 lines will suffer..and which lines get more ice time??? You can have Laffy and KK on the top six and still put together a darn good 3rd line with the likes of Chytl, Goodrow, Blais, Krapshot...well, that's my reasoning, right or wrong, but GG knows way more than me and has other views and I do mostly like Gallant so......

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:12 pm EST

Tonight the Kid line was good....anotner guy that was good was Gauthier...but again, him being good just doesnt seem to be good enough to force anything. I give him full marks for stepping up and starting to be more physical, and continuing to drive to the net. But again, who does he push out? He had a few mistakes, but Scanlin (sp) looked good. Nothing special, and I don't think he moved up the chart to the top 6/7, but he was pretty darn good. Should have a good season in Hartford this year I would think. Other than that? Seems like most of the players were not mentally engaged. I would imagine that some were thinking about making their way to hartford others thinking about not getting hurt. Whatever the case...they were not present tonight.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:07 pm EST

Hospo - there’s two ways of defining what’s “good” for the team. If the idea is to win at all costs and fuck the rest (which is where Gallant is and surprisingly so was Quinn) then the ice time of young players is of no concern. I’d like to think BOTH can be satisfied in this case if GG didn’t just have an idea in his head of what he’d WANT his lineup to be and what it should be. Lafreniere indeed looks like he has gained some “man strength” in the off-season and showed it again tonight. I like Blais but a hypothetical of Kreider-Z-Blais vs. Kreider-Z-Lafreniere and I see Laf outplaying and outscoring Blais…and doing just about as much hitting as Blais, too. Blais is all “hope it works out” at this point….14 career goals, a rep for hitting & some flashes of soft hands, Laf had 19 goals just last season. Sorry, I just don’t see Blais over Laf…who once again tonight said he doesn’t care what wing he plays. We’ll see how long GG sticks with his wish list…all I see is that Lafreniere is ready to pop & 13 minutes ain’t gonna help this team at ES as much as it needs the help.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:07 pm EST

JFC31/ Hospo............this Othmann needs to go back to Jr but let there be no mistake, he will be wearing a Ranger jersey soon and for a long time. Laffy is looking really good so far and he should have his break out year, this season. Hope Kakko does too ,but............and my jury is still out on Kravtsov. And I will have no problem at all with Hajek as # 6.

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:06 pm EST

Hospo: I wonder how much GG sees the Kid line and his one sure thing. What I mean is that there he has the option of 3 lines being new, or 4. Starting with the kid line intact gives him at least one line that he knows can click. IF he breaks that line up he will have 4 lines he is not certain of. If less say Panarin-Trocheck-Krav click right out the gate...well then that would allow him to try both Laf and Kakko on the top line if Blais being there doesnt work. If all 3 work? Hell...take it and run...the odds of all 3 top lines working is low I think. But again, everyone knows the kid line wil at least create pressure and GG knows it. So I can understand the idea of at least having one good line to start the season. One line that doesnt need time to gel.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:01 pm EST

JFC - Right about OTHMAN's promise but not being physically ready..Krapshot, while possibly having the skill, is also strength challenged right now..KInda like BUCH when he resembled the Scarecrow from the Wizard of OZ...not a good thing if you are playing agasint the top D pairs..BLAIS is the opposite.....BOTH KK and LAFFY can provide both in the top 6..but that's beating a dead horse and bringing it to water...

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:55 pm EST

Newt - agree…preseason lineup. Our regulars were very good. I’m thinking that Othman is going back to Jrs. He’s got a bright future but he’s nit ready yet, it’s just about shame that he can’t go to Hartford because he’d learn more there & play against bigger, stronger players. Dougie Hamilton sent him flying very easily…that’s man strength vs. teenage strength right there.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:50 pm EST

A few quick takes from that game..First...Rosen is just horrid..totally unlistenabe...Second, Is it just me, but has LAFFY lost some of that baby fat and looks lean and ready..Kid is going to have a big year..How big depends on where he plays...which leads me to the KId line..They can be good together.and were at times tonight...and are a good story..but is that what is best for the team when you have 30 mill in 4 forwards being handcuffed with relative schmoes? And I exaggerrate with the schmoes when talking about BLAIS..I love the way he plays but just don't see him as Top 6.....And if you asked me to choose between Krapshot, Blais and Othman to play on the Right of the big boys, I would take Othman..but I know he belongs back in Juniors....And I would be fine with HAJAK as the 6th D-man....

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:41 pm EST

It's only pre-seson ,nothing to worry about. It was a "throw the shit against the wall " kind of line-up. As long as we stay healthy and we get a good look at everyone,that's what is important. On a really positive note, I think we are gonna score some short handed goals this year, maybe even a team record ?

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:26 pm EST

STFU Nosendick. We give no fucks about your minnesota homecoming. Assholes.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:26 pm EST

Rf4L: It felt like if he walks across the room without an injury its a good day for him. Not making fun of him, but the kid has spent as much time injured as healthy it seems like.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:23 pm EST

Another plus? Lindbolm didn’t get hurt!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:21 pm EST

JFC. Agreed.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:21 pm EST

Something I like about Blais. That shift there. He gets the puck. Chips it over to another guy as he hits th blue line to jeep the play onside and move the puck up...then goes straight in on the net. Didnt work, but it was a simple play, give and go to the net. Didnt try to beat guys one on one, didnt try to be the hero, none of that crap. And the Rangers need that mentality more at times, because they get to fancy at times.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:20 pm EST

The kid line good too. Z and K zzzzzzzzzz.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:20 pm EST

Lafrenière has always had a knack for anticipating what direction passes & clearing attempts are going & knocking them out of mid air. I think this makes him a viable PKer and would help increase his ice time. Kakko could also get more ice this way. Put them both on a PK and their che is try would be an even bigger boost.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:19 pm EST

Laf is clearly playing with confidence. Can't imagine that a long playoff run with some success personally didnt have something to do with it. I think eh really started to believe in himself at the NHL level in the post season.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:18 pm EST

E: Thats true...and that is the other side of playing heavy. You end up taking penalties when you play a hard game. Its rare that a guy can play heavy and not get penalized.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:17 pm EST

Now that made this game worth watching. This kid is gonna break out this season. You can feel it building…

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:16 pm EST

Rf4L: Have to agree...this was a bad night. Only a few guys seem to have showed up...its like they are thinking about the regular season, or movie night...anything but the game...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:13 pm EST

Wild: there are always those guys who can put a hit on you but mostly if you saw it, you can get some kinetic energy back into them. It’s the kind you get from Jasper Fast. You know he’s gonna finish every hit on you, and he just plays hard. But then there are guys like Trouba who come from the Kromwell style where they just can shift on their edges and time it perfect to hit you. But those guys like Blais just when they hit they take you off balance and keep going as if it’s a car crash. Some guys are just heavy. Blais is like that. But Blais is always gonna get penalties as well.

E

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:13 pm EST

This has been a horrible outing by the Rangers in almost every aspect.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:11 pm EST

JFC: There are plenty of people equal to me here...jsut not you. Clearly...since you just posted this trash...trying desperate to elevate yourself from the gutter. I told you I call out crap when people post it. And I didnt say I wouldnt stop interacting with you...learn to read...I said I will interact with who i please. Its telling that you are still crying about what I say...even though its clear you don't understand a bit of the words I use. And no...its not me...its you...if you are so desperate to avoid being made a fool of...why do you keep interacting with me...and trying to win an argument with me? Dont have the guys to shut up and face not having the last word? Again..very telling in that regard. Hence me knowing you are not my equal....

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:08 pm EST

Rf4L: I think he is trying to fill space...and there really isn't anything to talk about....but in that case...let there be no extra chatting...it snot needed...but he chatters a LOT. I really wish they had a student of the game type there, who would expand things better than he does...he doest really break things down, he just talked during replays like he just did. Didnt break down how he was defended or what hemal have been seeing....I know a lot of folks don't like Vally, but he does that, and its informative...not sure he could do it in game as a color guy...but damn...im sure he could do better.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:07 pm EST

Ok, Wall Crawlers….so, you can all see it clearly now. I’m asking this pompous asshole not to interact with me in order to keep the peace and you see how he comes back and refuses to do so? He’s so obsessed with his desire to express his superiority complex that he can’t manage something that’s really pretty simple. Ya see, he doesn’t think ANYONE on this Wall is above him…he thinks that HE is above all of us! That’s why his MO is to tell everyone why they are wrong on a regular basis. He is Mr. Unequalled…classic narcissistic superiority complex. No one is his equal…LOLOLOL! This is classic! Love it when people reveal themselves for all to see…no one here is Wild’s equal…remember that. Too funny…and he calls others keyboard warriors…absolutely classic! :^)

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:04 pm EST

That was a HELL of a shot...and that was with Fox defending...and in pretty good position...though I am sure he wished he was a step closer, or quicker I guess i more accurate. Fox was a little behind and was having to reach a bit more than his norm. But still, he forced a backhand shot, and it wouldn't have gone in if not prefect...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:03 pm EST

Bring on Connor Bedard!!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:03 pm EST

Another bye bye enjoy the AHL? Khoderenko.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:02 pm EST

The ‘insight’ Nosendick babble on about is so trivial and only the most uninformed fans would not be aware of. Is that by design (re they are told to offer up that shit) or are they that stupid? Of course making it 10x worse is their insistence to enlighten us during the play by play so frequently.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 8:00 pm EST

Not sure who passed that puck to Gettinger there...but damn...talk about putting a guy in a bad spot. He has no speed going, and had a defender moving towards him...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:58 pm EST

Rf4L: Unfortunately you are probably correct...and if they do continue it wil be out dated stuff they grabbed during camp....

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:56 pm EST

JFC: i will interact with whoever I want here. Its an open forum. Maybe don't be a cry baby...and yeah you are. always...every time. You cry. And yeah..you were crying on behalf of the players you have decided should get what you think they should based on your opinion...and get nasty and have a tantrum when someone counters that stance. And listen up punk...you don't ever...EVER tell me what do. Yo are not better or above me...you are not even an equal...so sit down and mind your place.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:55 pm EST

Newf. Enjoy them now because it’s highly unlikely they’ll continue. They are the result of early training camp opportunities to film soundbites.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:52 pm EST

Newfie: yeah its not her fault...every team, every game, has someone asking the same questions.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:51 pm EST

Its not a shock that the kid line looks the best. I mean they are the only line that can be fully intact from last year...cant underestimate that kind of chemistry and knowing each other.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:50 pm EST

Wild...yes it's way better than those between period interviews when the guys are out of breath and get the same qustions over and over. ( no offense meant to our new young gal, I like her )

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:47 pm EST

This is my last word to you, Wild. Why is it that you’re so frequently in dust-ups on this Wall? This bullshit you just pulled is the perfect example. You seek to contradict people even when they’re not interacting with you. Hospo posted concerns about Kravstov with CM, posting , ““Could be how they see the RWs, but a BLAIS coming back from an ACL tear and a Krapshot coming back his second temper tantrum and neither ever showing anything worthy of top 6 so far is a clusterfuck”…did you tell him he was CRYING being a victim on behalf of players? I agree with their opinions…are Hospo & CM in my “echo chamber?” You WANTED a confrontation…you sought it out! I responded to you, “I’m not sure what you’re talking about. If who can’t take it?” and you answered, “Wonder why you don't get what I am saying....” WTF is wrong with you? Then your next response is to say I’m“Crying” I’m not the one who has been in major FLAME WARS over and over again on The Wall. That would be YOU! Do not interact with me on here…I want nothing to do with you. I’m saying it in front of everyone who is on this Wall…do not address me in any way. If you do so in the future, everyone on here will know you are the one who is looking for confrontation…the same way you proved that very clearly tonight. For the good of the Wall, do not address me in any way. Very simple…if you can’t manage this simple thing, then it’s you who are obviously the problem

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:45 pm EST

Nice to know that the players (at least according to Trouba) understand that they wee close to being knocked out in the first round, and didnt just focus on how deep they made it. Good mindset to have. That means they understand they have work to do.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:42 pm EST

Not sure how much I will trust the stats...but they have Gauthier with 6 hits...SIX! But they also have Blais with just 3...so again, don't know if I trust the stats collection on the night. Still though, Gauthier is trying o show he can play a bottom line role...I don't see him getting a top 12 F spot. But he is putting int he effort to get that 13 spot, or maybe to get traded. He hasn't hurt himself I don't think this pre season or camp. Not that he has made it that GMs will be falling all over themselves to trade for him, but he hasn't made it harder...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:36 pm EST

12 shots in total by the Rangers. Gee what else is new?!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:35 pm EST

Rf4L: By the way, its Welinski who has been with Hajek...and he has been abused a few times this game. His positioning is quote terrible on almost every play coming back into the defensive zone. He has a nice shot...but damn is he a liability out there.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:32 pm EST

Something to add to Blais...while he hits like Reaves, he can keep up with the play in a way Reaves never has been able to, even before he started to lose his speed with age. Makes him much more useful for a coaching staff. Have to wonder if he will end up being worked into the PK? He has the skating ability and the guts to do it, thats for sure. Though I wonder about his footwork and quickness of stop starts and such.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:30 pm EST

Taht was a weak call...I mean...wahts he supposed to do, let the guy skate past him, or push him to the net....he didnt leave his line to make contact...he was backing up and then held the guy up...but you can do that.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:30 pm EST

And Othmann tonight helping make the big argument moot. He looks a bit overwhelmed.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:29 pm EST

Rf4L: Edstrom has had a coupe good plays...and I think its his first ever game action in North America so I will cut hims some slack. He has been and remains a long shot and I don't mean just for this season. if he ever makes it to the NHL even as a call up for a few games, I bet it will be 2 or 3 years from now...if not longer...

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:27 pm EST

E: He hits like Reaves...he doesnt just make contact, he acts like he enjoys it and he wants them to know it.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:27 pm EST

Edstrom is a big zero too.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:26 pm EST

The slug beside Hajek needs to be farmed out pronto. Horrid positioning there.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:25 pm EST

Blais hits thru people. He gets extra oomph anytime he makes contact. He causes bruises. He is the definition of play heavy.

E

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:22 pm EST

And my man Hajek looking solid. Alas may mean zippo to GG.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:21 pm EST

Blais hitting everything in sight. Love it!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:20 pm EST

Rf4L:I was thinking the same thing. I didnt know what to expect from him against NHL players, and while its just pre season...he has been solid...and has a good shot he has let loose a couple times. Not sure what his ceiling is and whatnot..but he is better than I anticipated.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:18 pm EST

They seem bit less sloppy here in the second...appears they got their heads out of their asses.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:17 pm EST

Newfie:Nits something that started via their twitter feed a few weeks back..maybe it hasn't been that long. But I think it started with the Trouba C stuff....after that there has been a lot of that sort of thing. It is nice to see it between periods. Its the sort of thing we normally don't see until they retire, so its a nice look inside for current times.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:16 pm EST

I’m pleasantly surprised by Scanlan. Seems solid positionally and for sure has some physicality.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:14 pm EST

Rf$l: If that was what people did her...noone would ever respond to you...becsaue you are one of those posters, Liek me, who has pissed everyone off at some point over the years.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:14 pm EST

Hey Nosendick: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:14 pm EST

I love this new feature between periods with the players talking about players.hope they keep it up at least for a little while.

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:14 pm EST

and by the way...this is an open forum..if you want private conversations...go someplace else..find your echo chamber...becasue I am not the only one you cry about when they respond to something you post and they don't agree with you. You cant stand being called out for rants that make no sense...you just bark at anyone who doesnt agree that you didnt directly address...but you are perfectly fine addressing them in a nasty way...grow up kid.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:13 pm EST

I have a suggestion: Don’t respond if/when a poster is continuously annoying you. It’s quite refreshing to do so I’ve learned.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:13 pm EST

I have a suggestion: Don’t respond if/when a poster is continuously annoying you. It’s quite refreshing to do so I’ve learned.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:13 pm EST

I have a suggestion: Don’t respond if/when a poster is continuously annoying you. It’s quite refreshing to do so I’ve learned.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:11 pm EST

JFC: I fully expected you to prove what you are...a crybaby with an attitude...keyborad warrior...the only person that need to go do anything is you. Find help..this isn't the first time you have decided that you needed to prove you were raised wrong.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:10 pm EST

E: the worst case is that he builds bad habits becsaue he doesnt NEED to do things in order to succeed. Thats why I think there needs to be a waiver thing...not every year, not for multiple years with the same player, but something for those situations.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:10 pm EST

Wild - go fuck yourself, asshole….see how it’s gonna work?

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:07 pm EST

Good on Fox to chase after the asshole who crosschecked him.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:07 pm EST

JFC: You are crying. You do not all the time..

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:03 pm EST

Othmann isn’t a Jr level player any longer. He belongs in a pro league. Sending him to junior isn’t a travesty at the end of the day but he is a little bit of a man playing against boys and he should be getting paid to play hockey at this stage.

E

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:00 pm EST

Wild - RF says keeping Skinner and sending out Robertson is a head scratcher. You say “because they’re less concerned with Skinners development” CM also questions it and you say, “Keep Robertson around for practice is not the best move. This lets him get to Hartford, and settle in.” You have no problem contradicting other people’s opinions and stating your own with conviction, as if you’re somehow in the know. I respond to OTHERS, not YOU, and you claim MY OPINION is “crying!” and start babbling about losers and cutting players. So my opinion doesn’t hold the weight of yours? Is that it? Do me, yourself and everyone here on The Wall favor and don’t interact with me…that way I won’t have to tell you what a hypocritical asshole you are and how you should go fuck yourself anymore. Because that’s what I’ll do every time you talk shit to me, dickhead.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:53 pm EST

Newfie I would buy that...especially in a game that doesnt matter. I know people think that it shouldn't matter and they should be able to act like it is a real game. But thats just not human. That extra mental edge comes from knowing there is something to lose, thats what makes the best players the best. If we see that sort of thing roll over into the regal season thats an issue...but now?

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:51 pm EST

Rf4L: I was just saying to myself that it feels like the guys wo are going to make the team know it, and the guys who will not know it as well. They are being sloppy...I am wondering if they will pull it together the rest of the way. Its the pre season and I think they are playing like it is...not the greatest effort so far. But TO me it seems more the Rangers NOT playing well than it is the Devils playing well. Not that its a gimme for them, but they havnt done anything all that impressive either.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:50 pm EST

Newf. For sure he didn’t look ready.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:49 pm EST

I have a suggestion: Don’t respond if/when a poster is continuously annoying you. It’s quite refreshing to do so I’ve learned.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:49 pm EST

Not that it matters but I think Shesty was still thinking about the Wood goal on that second one. Goalies hate short side goals !

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:46 pm EST

That sucked. Hopefully not a harbinger for what’s coming with these 2 teams…

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:45 pm EST

JFC: If the players are fine with it...why are you crying about it like it matters? How do you know the Kid Line didnt let GG know they wanted a chance to stay together? Krav came early...he has done everything he needs to. He got bad advice, probably by the guy overseas that he fired maybe? He seems to have hit it off with Panarin (big shocker) and GG is going to try to leverage that for the betterment of the team. Well thats his job...the team...not individual players...I am tired of people being victims on behalf of NHL players...its just so stupid.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:44 pm EST

Maybe because you’re babbling….

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:42 pm EST

JFC: Wonder why you don't get what I am saying....

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:42 pm EST

Rangers suck. No Honour for Connor!!!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:40 pm EST

Sloppy PP. Who’s the slug playing alongside Hajek?

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:38 pm EST

Wild - I’m not sure what you’re talking about. If who can’t take it? The guys getting 13 minutes per game? Because it has nothing to do with them taking it….they haven’t made a peep of protest about anything. They’ve been good soldiers all along…unlike Kravstov.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:32 pm EST

Watching him skate...I would NEVER think Blais is coming off a major knee injury last season. I know it was early in the season, but still. He is moving well, very well

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:29 pm EST

JFC: If they cant take it...then screw them...cut them waive them...whatever you need to do...because you will never win with losers...and if you think like that...well..

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:28 pm EST

Gauthier pulled his only move out....that was a nice little last touch there..full credit as its not easy to do that when you are getting plowed over...but damn son...can you try something else maybe once or twice?

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:28 pm EST

Hospo/CM - as I said very early, GG has his ideal lineup already in his head and he’s gonna force the issue until someone proves they don’t belong where he puts them. No way in fucking hell that Krav should he HANDED a coveted spot where he will be able benefit from playing with Panarin & Trochek while Kakko & Lafreniere have to UNSEAT him…after they’ve toed the line, put team 1st & followed what the coach and organization wanted. Add in the fact that Panarin is babysitting Krav and you know damn well that’s his spot to lose. It’s a horrible message to send to young players who do all the right things. And I’ll reiterate this once again…I have NO PROBLEM with the Kid Line per se. What in have a problem with is the 13 minutes TOI Kakko, Laf & Cheeto are gonna get. It’s an absolute NON STARTER for me…you don’t give a #1 overall and a #2 overall in the 3rd & 4th seasons respectively, onlyb13 minutes of ice and virtually no PP time and think you’re not stifling their development.

JFC31

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:27 pm EST

That should count!!

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:26 pm EST

Bob. My tweet back to TD’s special friend: “ Not a silly rule at all. It’s there to protect short-sighted GMs and owners from biting off the hand that feeds them. Poorly done LB.”

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:23 pm EST

Bob: I have said each team should be able to have 1 player who is in the last year of eligibility moved to the AHL one season early. But just once in a 5 year period. SO once you use it, the next 4 years you cant. And yep...you may not have any clue if there is a guy in 2 years that would be a better fit...but that will make the teams be sure they want to use it when they do. At times its just bad for everyone involved OTHER than the Junior team. But really...they don't matter. I know junior hockey is important, but not more important than individuals who have clearly moved past that level. With my idea those teams still get a top player for 3 years of their eligibility and just one 1. Maybe there is also a top 3 rounds or top 2 rounds or something...sort of like how the SHL has a transfer agreement that says if they are not a first rounder their teams in the SHL have the right to retain them.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:23 pm EST

Bartkowski is horrid.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:22 pm EST

Bob- Even more important is we slide his contract a year! Where’s he going to play on this team? I know Kravt is being given a shot, he is older and we need to give him some time to either become an NHLer or increase trade value.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:19 pm EST

ZBad- Wow. He is a strong guy. Incredible play. Fox/Kreider- same as ever. And Blais just crushed Wood 2x in one shift.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:19 pm EST

I know its just pre season...but its cool to see Kakko and Laf out as the F pair for a PK

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:08 pm EST

Brooks bitching about the rule that requires Othmann go back to Flint instead of to Hartford. Othmann misses the cutoff by 5 days. On one hand, I agree and there is not much more to learn for Othmann in juniors. On the other hand, it prevents the Rangers from rushing him like they have with other prospects in the past.

Bob

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:03 pm EST

SKINNER got cut.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 6:02 pm EST

RF- thought Skinner was sent down?

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 5:13 pm EST

Rf4L: Because they are less concerned with Skinners development...or they are more concerned that he is doing things they want to get ahold of a few more days. Again, Letting a young player get settled from the get go is good.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 5:08 pm EST

Comark. I saw Robertson play. He was ok. Much better than a few others for sure especially Skinner who’s still with the club. Head scratcher for sure.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 4:55 pm EST

(Video) Honest Heart's Development and Cut Content

Colorado...why would you think Halak is going to HTF when he is gonna be the back-up for Shesty ? Or am I missing something ?

Newfie_Ranger

Thu Sep 29 2022 4:40 pm EST

RF- I think the prospects still in camp will be sent down after their obligatory game tonight or tomorrow (Wellinski, Scanlin, Emberson). I think Robertson got 1 game and Welinski and Emberson will each get 2. Scanlin only getting 1 as well. So Robertson must really not have impressed (Which is weird because of the train wreck of Tinordi-Skinner in Game 2, you would think Robertson wouldn't have stood out negatively as much?

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 4:30 pm EST

CM - If those are the lines, I have lost a little faith in Drury/Gallant....Gifting Krapshot a spot because he has the Rangers in a tough spot with the waiver thing is bad enough..Rushing BLAIS back to something he has never played before would be just as foolish,...And paying Goodrow almost 4 mill and wasting his talent to play on a 4th line would be just as head scratching to me...But, like you said, maybe in a week GOODROW, Kakko or Vesey will be your top 6 RWs if the others flop.....for a few weeks...........ON D, Hajak and Jones seem like the 6/7 but who gets to wither in the press box? HAJAK showed last year he could handle that role..:) but to me, he seems like the better player right now and I think he was solid in the NHL two years ago paired with Brendan SMith...But do they want JONERS more high risk/high reward offensive game?.Gotta remember the selection of the 6th D also highly effects SCHNEIDER, who as a rookie had a perfect partner in BRAUN late last year....Maybe HAJAK is just being showcased for a trade for middle round round draft pick??

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 4:01 pm EST

DREW: congrats on your boy moving up. Great part of having a boy. Passing down the game. My kids have zero interest in the sport. My youngest used to cry when she watched me play. She thought I was getting hurt. At least I got them all skating lessons and they can skate at the rink.

E

Thu Sep 29 2022 4:01 pm EST

Rf4L: The Pack having 2 goalies at least, makes sense. They may even want 3 or 4 to split up workload for the start of camp as they work with goalies one on one...something I know that have done in the past (not sure if this staff does that or not) and its good for him to get that one on one time...and he wont get that in NY right now as they will be focused on the guys who will be in the cage for the Rangers.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:59 pm EST

Early season draft list courtesy of Craig Button. Hoping Rangers land a pair of centres with their 2 firsts! https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-draft-eduard-sale-connor-bedard-1.1855421

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:53 pm EST

The cuts come with no surprise to me except for 2 things: 1). There are still a few guys who I thought were lesser prospects than Robertson still around. 2). Boyko not going back to his junior club but perhaps they want 2 goalies in the Pack camp so until Lindblom gets cut Boyko gets time there.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:45 pm EST

COMark: I think that Jones has won the spot. Keeping Robertson around for practice is not the best move. This lets him get to Hartford, and settle in, and start camp there Monday so he is starting off strong there instead of having things be disrupted. Same with Travingo, who was never making the team this season. Getting a good jump with the Pack allows them both to be in the best position to be playing their best when the team looks to Hartford for help. The other guys are not close...at least the ones still around. They are junior kids that they will want to hang onto a little longer to work with them before being on the outside looking in (same with euro kids). Hajek is still round because I think he is the 7th D...unless they can trade him at least....and a kid wont be that 7th D. I think the only calls still not made fully are on wing and the 4th line.13th F.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:39 pm EST

Hospo- I agree- I think they are going to start with the kid line. But maybe they revisit later. So if you read the tea leaves with the lineups for the next two games, I think unless someone really changes the narrative the lineup from the first couople of days of camp are what the team starts with: Kreider-Z-Blais, Panarin-Trocheck-Kravt, Laff-Chytil-Kakko, Goodrow-Carpenter-Reaves with the Jones Schneider as the 3rd pair. That means the other lines are vying for 2 bench spots: OTHMANN-KHORDENKO-GAUTHIER (Juniors unless they keep him for an extended look- HTFD-Spare part) VESEY-RYDAHL-HUNT (All vying for 1-2 spots?)GETTINGER-HENRIKSSON-EDSTROM (1 game look but hartford bound), CUYLLE-BRODZ-PAJU (Hartford bound). And on D- HAJEK-BARTKOWSKI (battle for 7th D spot), SCANLIN-WELLINSKI (Hartford Bound after game tonight) TINORDI-EMBERSON (Hartford bound, but outside shot at 7th spot). HALAK and DOMINGUE to Hartford after Friday.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:17 pm EST

CM - Could be how they see the RWs, but a BLAIS coming back from an ACL tear and a Krapshot coming back his second temper tantrum and neither ever showing anything worthy of top 6 so far is a clusterfuck of the highest for the Top 2 lines..To me, at the least that means KK should be there if they have ixnayed Laffy to LW

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:13 pm EST

Elson and Smith on Waivers so they'll be assigned tomorrow if they clear. I'm sure teams are chomping at the bit to grab both of them, lol. With those two that will leave the team with 2 full teams for the game tomorrow and Friday. Assuming the roster will be down to just about 28 guys before last pre-season game.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 3:02 pm EST

19 players cut. Mostly the AHL contract guys and lower tier 1st year pro prospects (Rempe,Korczak) Only surprises are Bobby Trivigno and Robertson, and maybe Garand. But some of the remaining guys get their one pre-season game tonight and then should be sent to Hartford (Lindbom, Khordenko, Gettinger, Henriksson, Scanlin, Welinski) or Europe (Edstrom). Not sure whether Boyko goes back to junior or if he is eligible for Hartford? I don't think he is signed, so I don't know how he can be assigned to AHL?

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 2:33 pm EST

RF4L - Here's my cares about the Leafs: That they get their shit pushed by the Rangers and eliminated from cup contention in the east before the Rangers. Outside of that? They can fuck themselves.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 2:29 pm EST

CoMark: Yes, true about Nemeth. HOwever, the numbers I referenced in my post took into account the elimination of the dead cap space next year. The Rangers currently have $65,000,000 accounted for in contracts for players next year. Yes, things can change but when you consider the bulk of that total is being consumed by players with NMCs, the problem won't go away.

rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 2:11 pm EST

RF- The dead cap space of 3.427m comes off the cap as well as the cap going up. A lot of changes will occur during and after the season, and there is a cap crunch, but that's why I am happy that Drury unloaded Nemeth without buying him out.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 2:08 pm EST

HOSPO- They did try Laffy at RW on the line with Trocheck and Vesey onTuesday, but he's back at LW with the Kid Line tonight. I think the original camp lines (with BLAIS on 1RW) is how the season will start and Kravt on 2RW, but who knows?

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 1:37 pm EST

CM - If that is the lineup for tonight, surprised that Jones isn't in also to continue his battle for the 6th D spot..But guess he will play tomorrow night..Also obvious from the lienups so far that the Rangers have no designs on playing LAFFY at RW..Kakao, Blais, Krapshot or vesey or Huntsie :) as your top 3 RWs is scary...in a bad way...

Hospo

Thu Sep 29 2022 1:05 pm EST

Anyone know where to find the game tonight on tv/stream?

NCRanger

Thu Sep 29 2022 1:04 pm EST

A big No to P. Kane. Way too cost prohibitive, both in terms of assets and cap. The Rangers could be setting up nicely w/ two firsts in what is being labeled as the best draft since ‘03 (Jessiman draft oy vey. I wanted Getzlaf or Parise). They are now in the enviable position of drafting an developing kids w/o having to rush them. That’s a great spot to be in a salary cap environment. Let’s hope Drury’s eyes don’t get all glazed over like Sather’s. He did great on the Nils trade IMHO.

NCRanger

Thu Sep 29 2022 12:15 pm EST

Surprised Bartkowski hasn't played up until now. Usually the PTO guys play almost every game. Rumor is cuts today, and ROBERTSON isn't on the ice for practice, so he might already be in Hartford. Thought he's be in the mix until the end.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 12:14 pm EST

Here's the lineup for tonight: Kreider – Zibanejad – BlaisLafreniere – Chytil – KakkoOthmann – Khodorenko – GauthierGettinger – Henriksson – EdstromLindgren – FoxHajek – BartkowskiScanlin – WelinskiShesterkinLindbom

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 12:02 pm EST

If Sather were still in charge, I would think Kane would be as good as ours at the deadline for all our yutes! But I think Drury is a much cooler cat, and while I could see him giving up a couple of 1sts, and maybe someone like Kravt (depending on how the year goes), I personally wouldn't do it as I think he'll be a rental. That said if he is the missing link and is fire with Panarin, maybe Kane wants to end his career with NY as we maximize our cup window.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 11:59 am EST

RF- Lol, I was trying to envison a barb burner. Barb wire, Barbie, Barb Walters, Barb Bush?

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 29 2022 11:56 am EST

Just to further emphasize the point: Next summer all of Miller, Laffy, Chytil and Krapsnot will need new deals. Also hitting either UFA or RFA are Blais, RR, Gauthier, Hunt, Carpentar, Hajek and Halek. Of course some won't return and others will be resigned (or replaced) at the same current cost. Nonetheless, with those that are signed, the Rangers are already over $65,000,000 in committed salaries next year. The is supposed to raise to something like $83,000,000 and for the sake of being generous that leaves Drury $20,000,000 to sign 11 players. You acquire Kane in a sign and trade and now you're down to something like $13,000,000 for 10 players. That means at least one (or both) of Miller/Laffy and one of Krapsnot/Chytil are traded.

rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 11:49 am EST

Kane will cost for sure something like Othmann, a first and someone like Schneider. A HUGE pass on that otherwise you risk ripping a major hole in the 5 years of rebuilding the organization went through and that could be for just 3 months of the guy. He's not affordable next year given the small cap increase coupled with the need for new deals for all of Laffy, Miller, Chytil and 7 other roster spots. PASS PASS and PASS some more!

rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 10:37 am EST

re: KANE - LOVE the idea of getting St. Patty. The guy is and will continue to be elite for some time...but...I don't love...at all...what it'll cost to get him. And there's just simply no making the math work out. Patty might take some form of discount to stay with a cup contender long term...but realistically speaking, how much of a discount will he take? Open market, he'll probably get the contract he already has over four or five years. Maybe even longer. Would he really take long-term of $6.5 or 7 million or so to stay with a cup contender long-term? I don't see it. And even if I did, I'm just not sure the Rangers could/would invest that kind of money in him AND give up something to the effect of OTHMANN, a first and KAKKO for him...Just a non-starter unless KANE is quite vocal about where he wants to go and drives both his price and his contract demands down to way beneath the stratosphere...ALL THAT SAID...KANE-Z-KREIDER would be just crazy to watch. We're talking an unstoppable unit for the next two or three seasons.

tdchi

Thu Sep 29 2022 9:50 am EST

Rf4l...this is the kind of shit they need to take out of hockey, fighting after a guy throws a perfectly clean check. Its hockey, if you dont want to get hit play ping pong.

topovski

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:47 am EST

Good morning/evening wallsters! I have been lurking but haven't had a chance to comment. DREW Jr moved up a level in travel hockey so it's been tough to post. I DVR'd the past two games against my other favorite team from Long Island and the Bruins. I am cautiously excited that we are playing this well with half our regulars dressed for each. Vesey and Rydahl are two forwards that I noticed. I agree with a lot of the posts here on their projections for the regular season. tdchi (I think) made some interesting points about the 6th D. Jones played with Schneider last year for a bit but might not be the best "fit" even though he's probably the most deserving.

DREW

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:40 am EST

Oops. Barn

Rf4L

Thu Sep 29 2022 7:39 am EST

Zegras gets crushed trying to cut through the middle and a ‘barb burner’ of a fight ensues. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/ducks-zegras-leaves-pre-season-game-with-upper-body-injury-after-massive-hit/

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:04 pm EST

KANE Rumor: https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/report-patrick-kane-turns-down-leafs-identifies-the-top-3-teams-on-his-trade-list

schneidw

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:38 pm EST

Hospo. Agreed. Like zero effort to understand the players themselves. That takes time and commitment. Instead go with common fan theme. Nice integrity eh?

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:16 pm EST

TD. You are not getting my point but whatever. Not important enough to belabour.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 8:56 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/28/rangers-have-tricky-contract-problems-before-nhl-cap-increases/

Stevielegs

Wed Sep 28 2022 7:51 pm EST

LOL and as if on cue...the Leafs doing the reverse-Quinn: Jonas Siegel @jonassiegel36mCalle Jarnkrok and Alex Kerfoot are both playing defence right now for the Leafs with Jordie Benn and Carl Dahlstrom both out of the game.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 7:42 pm EST

RF4L - Well fan perception is one thing...reality is a completely different beast. I get why folks would be concerned about two centers eating up $22 million in cap...but man, I played that game with the Penguins and CROSBY and MALKIN...and they went on to win back-to-back cups...the problem I see with the Leafs very much starts with their defense and moves toward their goaltending. Their D is just bad. REILLY is a good offensive d-man, but then that have another guy who is essentially the same, on a lesser scale and not nearly as good at D in TJ BRODIE. And then you have MUZZIN, who is always injured and whose best days are two years behind him...HOLL is...OK...and then GIORDANO(see MUZZIN)...SANDIN and LILJGREN are good pieces...but man, I just don't see how a team wins a cup with that D...and to the Leafs' limited credit?! IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST D THEY'VE HAD IN A DECADE...at any rate, if your argument is fans are blaming JT, I can totally see that...but it ain't his fault that the Leafs' management has been 35 flavors of inept. This is a team that should be challenging for the cup every season for the past three years...the fact that they've never made it out of the first round is a true indictment of their management.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 6:30 pm EST

RF4L _ STapleface is following in the footsteps of Lard Ass bozo Carpinello and just a waste to read..How coul HAJAK be "leveling Off" after the absurdity of the year he had last year (and how he was treated) and how ll he played the other night in over 20 minutes?

Hospo

Wed Sep 28 2022 6:27 pm EST

RF4L - yes, more than likely CARPENTER is the next Jarred STOOL, will make the team no matter what, but then performance will enter into it...We;ll see how he does I guess.....With RYDAHL, who has impressed me, you don't come over to the US at 28 if you want to play in the AHL...But bad performances and injuries happen all the time and hopefully he will have the patience to perservere in Hartford until he gets a shot....And, I think he gets the sane salary no matter where he is....so there is that....It sucks when performance and merit isn't always rewarded...

Hospo

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:54 pm EST

So Stapleface posts an article n risers and fallers and adds a category called ‘Leveling Off’ where he slots in Hajek. That subsequently prompts a slew of nasty comments about Libor. Sad. Stapleface sucks.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:48 pm EST

DCIgolfer: Hang in there dude!!!

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:42 pm EST

Riding the storm out in Orlando. Naples and Fort Myers took a beating. Hoping to avoid that here. LGR!!!

DCIGolfer

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:16 pm EST

And for the central Florida folks (not sure if any wallsters are from there): Be safe!!

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:14 pm EST

Agreed with the sentiment that Carpenter will make it and Rhydal will get cut for all the reasons being cited. But if R keeps his head down and plays well for the Pack given what I’ve seen in these 2 games it’s only a matter of time before he’s recalled. Carpenter might be a little more physical but Rhydal has way more skill IMO.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:11 pm EST

Stevie. Hell Hajek getting a legit shot and making it will make ME happy. I’ve been defending this kid since he was acquired. The way he’s been handled by TWO regimes is inexplicable to me. That he’s kept quiet thru it all is IMO a testament to his character. If any Ranger deserves to make it and thrive AFAIC it’s him.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 5:04 pm EST

On Gauthier someone said earlier and I think it’s got validity. Gauthier hasn’t been able to reshape his game into being a bottom 6er. Combine that with his inability to contribute anything with the puck and a shot that wouldn’t scare my long deceased gramma (great lady BTW) and he’s stuck in no man’s land. Of course being given zero opportunities from an icetime perspective to find something only exacerbates matters. I saw a few big hits from him last night but that’s so infrequent from him it almost looks weird. I was a big fan long before Squishface landed him so for me he’s one of the more disappointing things about this version of the Rangers for me. I honestly thought he had power forward potential. Not anymore tho.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 4:38 pm EST

TD: The defense and goalie issues are secondary to the perceived JT problem. Plenty of Leaf fans see the contract and recall his effectiveness as an Islander and then in his first year as a Leaf but don't consider where his place is in the lineup, which is as the 2nd line centre. He doesn't get as much icetime as Matthews, doesn't get Marner on his wing and usually doesn't get to play his position (in front of the net) on the PP. His stats suffer as a result and he becomes the subject of ire from the fanbase. The goalie and defense issues that you cite have very little to do with that.

rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 4:31 pm EST

TD- Agreed that Gauth didn't get a lot of opportunities last year and definitely rode the pine more than he was in the lineup, but he got a pretty fair shake after injuries early on. He was playing on the modified kid line. Granted, that line wasn't as effective without Kakko on it, but is that because CHYTIL and LAFFY were still finding hteir groove, or that Gauthier wasn't as effective on the RW as KAKKO (Who wasn't that effective!)

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 28 2022 4:08 pm EST

It feels good to agree with some posts even though not entirely . Krappy has a contract no matter what. Rydahl can go down for the first 10-20 games so the coach and gm can make some decisions on the roster they start the season with. And he can get better acclimated to the smaller rink and the USA. The goat on the 2nd line would help them make a decision on him. Fitting vesey hunt carpenter Blais Goodrow et al is a good problem. I hope hijack gets a real shot this season and makes the gm happy.

Stevielegs

Wed Sep 28 2022 2:50 pm EST

Wildcard - KRAVTSOV is going to be with an NHL team no matter what. He may have something to personally prove, but it's not like he's going to be out of a job and wondering where he'll play hockey if he gets cut...VESEY? Exact opposite. The big difference between the two in terms of how they are playing is that one has a shit-ton of NHL experience and the other has essentially played half-seasons at lower leagues for the past three years. And it shows. KRAVT is worlds more talented than VESEY could ever dream of being. And yet he's not looking any better. That's because the fucking idiot shot himself in the foot two out of the past three years and then had COVID do the rest for him. Again...this isn't to say VESEY is better. But he's playing better. No question about it.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 2:36 pm EST

ColoradoMark - I think the caveat with the RYDAHL-CARPENTER situation is that I don't think CARPENTER would get claimed if he was waived...but that said, I no more believe that my cat will do my taxes this year than I do GALLANT will waive CARPENTER. He was brought in for a reason and it wasn't to ride the AHL bus.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 2:32 pm EST

RF4L - What I see in KRAVTSOV is a kid who is rusty beyond belief. He doesn't look comfortable, he looks nervous and he looks like he could use a solid year in the AHL. But that can't happen any more, so we get what we get and we don't throw a fit. All that said, we really can't step back from having Dryden HUNT as our second-line RW. KRAVT at his most rusty and least effective is still better than that dude.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 2:26 pm EST

JFC - Totally agree with you on the TOP 6 RW...Makes zero sense to me for it not to be KAKKAO and LAFFY (or one of the vets can switch)..Krapshot, Blais and anybody else aren't ready...I really don't give a rat's ass about how Krapshot plays on the PP and open ice but I have seen little (good or bad (so there is that)) from Krapshot in my limited viewings of the first two games..While a few other wings have jumped off the page here or there...I guess the Ranges have no choice but to keep playing Krappy and hope what they think they have does emerge..The thing is, I don't see him as a fit for bottom six either..and could you imagine how he would deal with being ket on the team but in the stands like GAUTHIER and HAJAK?? And I do not like LAFFY o nthe 3rd line, nor do I think he belongs there on this roster...TDCHI argee with almost all your takes so far, and that is a rarity!!!

Hospo

Wed Sep 28 2022 2:00 pm EST

Welp, there it is: the 'what the fuck is Wildcard trying to say' post. Mmmmmkay buddy. Watched the game. Looked at the stat sheet. VESEY played better than KRAVT. Not a matter of opinion, simple fact.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:57 pm EST

Puckyou - Gonna frame this in sort of a strange way: GAUTHIER'S problem AIN'T that he can't finish, per se...it's that he's been shoehorned into a role, with limited minutes, on and off the bench...and that doesn't help matters when your top, go-to move relies on impeccable timing...I saw this a lot with KREIDER when he was younger...always used his speed and cut hard to the net for a shot...it means not only are you needing to beat essentially the whole D and whoever is backchecking, but you also have to beat the goaltender or catch him off-guard. Timing is everything and if you're a cunt-hair off, you're going to do what GOAT does. And simply put, he's never going to get that timing down playing limited minutes on fourth line. I'll say this about him: He had it down pat in the AHL, where he was getting top-line minutes...what he REALLY needs is the chance the Rangers are apparently giving to KRAVTSOV right now...and this isn't to detract from what they're doing with him...it's the only way KRAVT is going to be anything but a line on the waiver wire for this team...but he's getting regular minutes with competent linemodes and on the PP. He's being put in a position where he is most likely to succeed. And that's the right thing to do there...But it's where GAUTHIER should have been last season instead of this carousel of shit forwards that were getting minutes on the PANARIN line right up until the deadline...GOAT may never be the player I hope he becomes...but for him to show what he has, he needs regular minutes on a line with players that can get him the puck...I think to a degree, he's reinventing himself...he's now understanding that no one is going to give him the hand up...and now he's playing a grittier game. But it's probably too late for him and his Ranger career...I'm hoping he gets another crack on Thursday and possibly one in the top three...because if he can get his timing right? The goals will pile up with that kid. He's got a very unique blend of size, speed and skill and it's a shame the Rangers don't better utilize it.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:49 pm EST

Didn't get to see much of either game (3rd period mostly). But Kravt, while not dominating by any means, had a few "wow" moments with the puck. You can see he is able to do things (especially getting a shot off from almost impossible positions) that not a lot of guys can do. I think he could end up being a player. TROCHECK was refreshing, especially on the faceoff dot. He just seems quicker and stronger than Strome. The #16 kept throwing me off! But he forced a bad pass that led to the OT winner, that's for sure. GAUTHIER is very noticable, but he can't buy a goal. RYDAHL was impressive. I like him better than Carpenter, but I am guessing because he can be sent down and he isn't a known quantity like Carpenter, he will be. I didn't notice tha many others in the short amoutn of time I got to see. I taped it, so might go back and watch a little.

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:42 pm EST

RF4L - I don't think there's any issues with TAVARES, other than maybe his cap hit being a little high. The problem with the Leafs has and continues to be the fact that they have a really shitty defense and never bother to invest in goaltenders. ANDERSEN and CAMPBELL were their two closest attempts at getting a true starter, and neither one is/was that good. And even if they had their moments of clarity with those two bozos, they never had a D worth a shit...I'll put it this way: If you put the Rangers' defense OR their goaltender on the Leafs last year? Good chance they win the cup. I know it's speculative, but I truly believe it. The bonkers part about all this is that they could easily move MARNER or NYLANDER for the defensive/goaltending help they need...but they don't...Their problem ain't having two strong high-paid centers...it's that they make ZERO effort to build a reasonable playoff team around them.

tdchi

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:25 pm EST

Should be “to get one”

PJ

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:24 pm EST

Wild…You are correct he has no contract…They one he needs to prove he can fill a role with an NHL team….He busted his ass in the offseason to prepare for this opportunity..He thinks he can make it and I seriously doubt he is saying who cares if I don’t I can go play in the AHL….That is ridiculous….I actually believe he will be on the season opening roster….

PJ

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:40 am EST

PJ: He has no contract to lose. He isn't trying to prove he belongs cat the NHL level, he has been at the NHL level. He is 29 years old...he literally has nothing to lose, if he doesnt get signed by the Rangers he can take an AHL deal, he can take a deal overseas, keep spring and try again next season....Krav is literally trying to prove everyone wrong about him, about his attitude, and to prove that he can compete at the NHL level regularly. Vesey has already shown that in his career. Krav hasn't. Vesey I am sure knew that he was a long shot, so if he doesnt make the team, doesnt get singed, he will be ready for it, he likely is ready for it, it wont be a shock, so there is less pressure, he can just go out and play. Its the same across all sports, guys who walk on, try out, they always look good when they are not part of "it" yet, they always open eyes. Its a mentality thing...they are less concerned with the "what ifs" so it is reflected in their play. Issue is almost all of them take a step back when they get a deal, suddenly its real and the pressure is back on to get game time, and that mental edge goes away.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:29 am EST

Wild….Agree on Vesey play last night but not sure how you believe he has nothing to lose….The guy is here on a tryout… He is fighting for his career….He has no contract….

PJ

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:26 am EST

rf4L: Lets not forget he made a few passes last night that the receiving player flubbed...he made one that the player (I think JBro) literally lifted his stick over...was a perfect breakout pass, instead the puck ended up on a BOS players stick just inside the Rangers blue line...Krav doesnt do things on his own often...yeah he has made some highlights reel moves one on one in his life, but its only after someone feeds him the puck in stride and he is able to carry that speed...and he also take passes well to fire the puck, and then he makes good passes to guys to get them chances. Now he has had some passes he has tried to force, and maybe they work in the KHL with passing lanes being a bit different due to ice size, and he needs to have a few intercepted to learn that as any player would, and he has not shot the puck at times when I think he should...and tries to pass it for a perfect play, and that also comes from being young and maybe being pushed to make plays rather than just taking the simple route. I also think his game relies not hat chemistry part of the game, and he doesnt have that with anyone yet. I feel like once the lines are settled in some, that he will build that quickly and start to look better becsaue again...he is in the right spot far too often for it to never work out with his level of skill.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:05 am EST

I tend to agree with the concerns about Krapsnot. He's getting lots of icetime but the results so far are middling. Of course, it's very early but at the same time, the level of opposition isn't exactly overwhelming. That said, it's sometimes easy to forget that this kid, despite what he apparently thinks/believes, is very inexperienced and needs time to adjust and develop. Floating around in the back of many people's heads (no doubt including Drury) is the vision of Krapsnot pulling his woe is me/pouting routine if he's pushed down the lineup or worse, pressboxed. His trade value is no doubt already compromised - a quick return to that behaviour will only plunge it further. Maybe he'll shine a little more if/when he's put on a line with P and T. We shall see...

rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 10:04 am EST

rf4L: I think those rumors are 100% media driven. Every official source, and the best "insiders" are all saying Chicago has had zero talks with any teams. I am sure teams have called...that always happens...but so far I believe they have done zilch. There are rumors to the effect that they want to keep him past this season, they do have 44 million in cap space for next season right now...so they could if they wanted. We will have to hear it all season becsaue the media guys who rely on rumors to keep people interested (since they bring nothing else of value) don't have much else to go with.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:58 am EST

On Blais...he looked good in the videos out of the first few days of camp....but thats the first few days of camp...I a curious how he will look with some game time under his belt and how long it will take him to get to a point where he feels and plays like he feels he is fully mentally back and with timing and everything. He missed a long stretch, and that cant be easy.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:56 am EST

BTW, the season hasn't even started yet and I'm already sick of the Patrick Kane rumours. Just say NO Drury.

rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:54 am EST

JFC: GG said he was going to use different players not he PK this camp/preseason after they had some many PK guys leave over the summer...I was wondering what ids would get a look, or f all of them would. Laf makes sense...he is smart and works hard, is physical, and has the skill to burn a PP if they mess up. That one shift last night sucked...but how often will he fall trying to get back to defend?

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:46 am EST

td: Totally disagree on the Vesey thing...hell the guy got 3 more minutes of ice time last night...and don't try to say you knew that from watching...he was totally invisible on at least half his shifts. The guy looks good when he gets given top moments...but otherwise...ehhh....and if signed he wil not be getting top line minutes (19+ per game like last night) or top PP time. Krave made a bunch of nice passes last night...did not look at all nervous about it, only to have either a D make a great play or the forward that he was passing it to screw up....or in some cases the timing was just a little off, as is expected with guys at this time of year. I am sure he is gripping the stick a little tight, he wants to produce to prove he belongs. He has something to lose. Vesey doesnt, he can be relaxed because really..he has nothing to lose. Add to that Krav isn't some grizzled vet, he will still be a little struck by what he is trying to accomplish. Hell I se it in some other kids as well that are trying o make the team...or accept that they havnt been "pre-selected" like the Zibs and Kreiders and Panarins of the team. Hell Schneider is staying at a hotel until he is told he made the team...For the record I LOVE that...it means that Krav (and others) don't feel entitled to a spot. Krav will be fine. He played better last night than i think a lot of folks want to give him credit for. The biggest reason why is when he is on the ice, he is almost always in the right spot, even off the puck. Now how he defends needs work as he seems hesitant or unsure of how to defend guys at times, but thats the easy part, the hard part is knowing where to put yourself...and he seems to have that part figured out.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:44 am EST

Methinks some rethinking by Rangers brass is gonna have to be done regarding Top 6 RW’s. Krav was better in the 3rd last night but he is still very tentative & basically rusty. Seems that Blais is also very rusty from what I’ve read. Both are rusty but for different reasons…Krav really played very few games last year and none of them on NA rinks. Blais is rusty due to injury. Laf looks confident & aggressive on the forecheck last night, he was going to the net well and was able to pick one in because he had a nose for the net. Seems to me that unless Krav & Blais really pick it up, Laf & Kakko should be the RW’s. Laf even got some PK time last night…one shift was a shit show when his stick got jammed & Boston scored SH.

JFC31

Wed Sep 28 2022 9:18 am EST

NYStranger: Agreed.

rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 8:39 am EST

I love the Goat’s size and speed, but going on 3 seasons now and can’t bury the biscuit it seems. It’s like he beats the D to the outside with speed, sweeps in and goes hard to the net with the puck in his teeth but hasn’t figured out how to get it past the tender. He could wind up being a star down the road if he ever learns how to light the lamp.

Puckyou

Wed Sep 28 2022 7:41 am EST

RF these are the pitfalls of signing big contract UFAs. The organization takes a chance that the value and length of the contract doesn’t hurt them, and usually eventually, it does. We will be reaping what we sow sooner or later as well. The hard Cap sucks, when there is no way out.

NYStranger

Wed Sep 28 2022 7:22 am EST

The contract value aside (he was gonna get at least that regardless of where he signed) the Leafs erred with JT but not realizing he needs number 1 centre minutes to thrive. His first year he got them and had a career year in goal, points and +/-. Matthews was a rookie. Year 2 JT’s numbers were close to tracking but he missed 1/4 of the season with an injury. Since then Matthews has taken over the number 1 centre spot and taken those minutes with him. He’s also earned the right to have Marner set him up all season(s) long. JT’s effectiveness has suffered as a result. He is still a very good player but as a 2nd line centre paid too much. Not foreseeing this was where the Leafs stumbled.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 28 2022 6:37 am EST

schneidw:Bettman will do everything he can to get Matthews to the empty desert.

shonuff

Wed Sep 28 2022 3:49 am EST

The goat has 2 choices see a shrink and figure out how to score with confidence, or become a defensive 3-4 line player. Drury has to decide whether to keep him , trade him , or gamble sending him down. …. No kids need to stay up for the regular season so far. I like rydahl but he might become a victim of the numbers game , and could probably use a little time in Hartford to get use to the size of the rink and the USA if he’s not claimable.

Stevielegs

Wed Sep 28 2022 1:28 am EST

No sense in going over the guys who have a spot waiting, with exception to maybe TROCHECK, who came as-advertised. Very glad he's a Ranger...the rest...KRAVTSOV...he got better as the game went on, for sure. But man, he's getting cherry assignments and at this point, he's getting beat out by a lot of other guys who are getting far less generous ice. Some of it could be nerves. He handles the puck like a fucking live grenade with the pin pulled. Just very poor passing and has been pretty awful on the PP...at this point, he's been beaten out of a spot by VESEY...like hands down, not even close. And there are at least two or three other wings/forwards playing as good or better with less ice...VESEY. I have no idea how you cut the guy after these two games. He's been the best Ranger winger in both. Noticeable every shift and doing all the right things...CARPENTER. Best I can say about the guy is he likes to bang. I saw him layout a couple of nasty hits...but he seems like Dryden HUNT Jr. Maybe a bit bigger? I can't see who he beats out to make the team. There are five or six different forwards who are better...And HUNT. Someone said he was noticeable? Um, I guess? In the way they Dryden HUNT is noticeable, which is that he buzzsaws in, forces turnovers, but is so painfully inept with the puck that it never matters anyway. Absent PANARIN on his line, he'd struggle to break five points in a season...Will CUYLLE: NOT READY. Not by a country mile...RYDAHL is on my short list of guys who have made the team in two games. Solid player. Good size and tenacity. Decent with the puck. Putting CARPENTER and HUNT out of a job...GAUTHIER...this guy does everything the team asks and he had a GREAT game last night. He was on my cut list last night, just because with KRAVT and only two other forward spots, it's hard to envision who he bumps...but if he plays like he did last night, that third spot could be his and RYDAHL may just have to be one of the highest-paid players in the AHL...TRIVIGNO: Nice story, not ready. Probably never will be. Still a good player to have and maybe after a season in Hartford, he can do more. He's not going to get a top-line spot on this team, which makes his utility negligible...BRODZINSKI: I'm glad we have him...for HARTFORD...He's another who is just not even close to the push for there...ELSON: Same, only even farther away...And on D: I liked what I saw from ROBERTSON, he played well, but I don't know how much better he'd do against a full NHL squad...I will say this: Between him and JONES and HAJEK, the clear odd man out for me is JONES. Not because of how he's played...but because the role JONES played last night is the exact one FOX played today. HAJEK and ROBERTSON fit the part. JONES does not...EMBERSON...I know most folks think he was a throw-in, but he's a GOOD player...albeit one who probably won't ever win a spot on the Rangers...he had a very good game...Jared TINORDI actually looked pretty good last night...I sometimes forget he was one a very respected prospect...and he didn't look out of place...but I also remember him seeming the same way last pre-season...then the regular season came and he was like a pylon...SKINNER...awful game for the kid and there's just no room on the team for him. But he's not a bad player at all, and it's a shame he's as buried as he is...My updated projections/selections for the team? KRAVTSOV, VESEY, GAUTHIER; HAJEK, ROBERTSON; footnote: Swap RYDAHL for ROBERTSON and carry 14 forwards and 6 D...Reality? I see GALLANT keeping KRAVT, HUNT, CARPENTER; HAJEK and JONES. Maybe VESEY gets signed and JONES relegated to Hartford.

tdchi

Tue Sep 27 2022 10:46 pm EST

Should be would have let him go…..

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 10:45 pm EST

Hospo…Gauthier had one of those plays in the first also but just can’t finish….He was more physical also….Personally I wouldn’t have let him go as he is what he is…..Vesey will have a tough time making the roster if GG favors Hunt and Carpenter when making final selection…Hope this isn’t the case….

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 10:13 pm EST

Kravtsov: That kid is skinny... needs to beef up

schneidw

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:59 pm EST

SCHNIEDW - The thing is, GOODROW is much more than a 4th line C (behind ZBAD, TROCHEK and CHYTl) in both how he plays and how he is paid..I wuld love LAFFY and KK on the top two lines and Goodrow on the 3rd (taking the draws) with CHYTL and ????...ON GAUTHIER, he had a very Gauthierish drive to the net in the 3rd and played with some jam but as JAKE said he just accomplishes little more ofthen then not...Will it ever come? I don't know

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:59 pm EST

Tavares: His contract his killed TOR... I can Mathews leaving as a 27YO UFA... Tavares is a great player but wasnt a need for TOR, and he has been injured alot... now as oblique strain.. which is an injury that can be tied to lack of fitness and training.... TOR got so lucky with top picks (I would take Mathews over McDavid) and hasnt capitalized because of suspect defense and goaltending... I only mention Mathews because all media has him gong to PHX... who the F*CK would want to go to PHX....

schneidw

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:58 pm EST

Tavares: His contract his killed TOR... I can Mathews leaving as a 27YO UFA... Tavares is a great player but wasnt a need for TOR, and he has been injured alot... now as oblique strain.. which is an injury that can be tied to lack of fitness and training.... TOR got so lucky with top picks (I would take Mathews over McDavid) and hasnt capitalized because of suspect defense and goaltending... I only mention Mathews because all media has him gong to PHX... who the F*CK would want to go to PHX....

schneidw

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:53 pm EST

VESEY: His past NYR experience and his Boston/New England connection gives him an opening and so far, he has earned it... I would like to Vesey and Blais on the same line... GRINDERS w size and skill.... put Goodrow at C

schneidw

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:52 pm EST

Didnt watch the game, just highlights...looking at the score,it didnt seem too shabby. That said, we lost...I hate losing - even meaningless games - but at least it wasnt the Islnders.

wiosa

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:50 pm EST

JAKE104: SO freaking true!!!! Gauthier on paper should be a 1RW and 1st team all star..... there have been very brief glimpses where Gauthier looks the part.. but mostly, it has been fluff.. I think he developed so many bad habits in Quebec league with his size and speed overwhelming his competition that he never needed to develop the grit, hands and 2-way play... he is a really big figure skater for the most part (form over function) and never developed the balanced power forward skills needed to succeed in the NHL... I will say, Othmann is showing me that he is the real deal LW and will be a long time NHLer...

schneidw

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:47 pm EST

Well Jack Edwards and Cliff Clavin were giving Gauthier props…Send him to Boston….

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:39 pm EST

Been watching hockey over 60 years and I still can’t figure out Gauthier. If you built a hockey player in a laboratory he would be an A specimen. What is missing I can’t figure out it’s gotta be more than just brains. Kravstov much better tonight. Rydal still over Hunt. Skinner, Trivigno, Carpenter, Cuylie, Elson, Hartford tickets are ready.

Jake0104

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:35 pm EST

Oh, and still have seen nothing from Krapshot..and still like RYDAHL.

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:30 pm EST

Again, only watched the 3rd period..and i had 3 takeaways....NOBODY distinguished themselves...the only good play I saw was ROBERTSON's big hit...and there has got to be 3 Hunt's and 3 KRAPSHOT's on the team because they were on the ice every other shift..I understand, but not enjoying, the Rangers needing Krapshot to succeed becasue he can't go to waiver and are giving him every chance..But Huntsie?????? I guess some guys played well in the first period

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:26 pm EST

E…Agree on Kravstov…Was watching him as well…A highly skilled player that needs some time in the NHL…Like him not being afraid of physical play and even pushing back…

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:14 pm EST

PJ: don’t look at scores. All that matters is performances. Expect a lot of disjointed play with a lot of guys that don’t have NHL skill, some guys who ain’t mature enough yet to play in the NHL, some veterans more concerned with getting shifts in to play into game shape. I don’t read too much into much else. I did spend a lot of time watching Kravstov. He was taking advice on the bench. He was standing around and looking. It wasn’t lazy standing. I think he was trying to work out the flow. He definitely looks like an NHL level player to me. He took a slightly errant pass behind him and caught with his inside skate and put it right on his tape while in stride. That doesn’t look like much to some people but that’s hard to do off the back skate in stride. Little things you notice with skill guys.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:03 pm EST

BOB: I agree. Rydahl is just on the move every shift and he’s looking to lay the big hit. But he also moves the puck effectively and in stride. He seems to like being off the wall and in space. I can see that he’s gonna be an obnoxious player when things get going. A good signing me thinks so far.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:02 pm EST

Oh and Gauthier actually played well.

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:00 pm EST

If I never see Tinordi play again I will be happy…The pairing with him and Skinner truly was atrocious….After a good first the Rangers were outplayed and outworked the rest of the game…Didn’t take Trocheck too long to catch Rangeritis…Pass up shots for low % passes several times tonight…Hunt still blows and Vesey did not continue his good play from last night…Preseason but still hate losing to Bruins. Had to watch their feed which makes it worse.

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:57 pm EST

Cuyle made contact whenever he could. Not very much by way of that. I continue to like Rydhal a lot. He’s clearly got a lot of experience and I can see where he’ll stir the drink. Hunt was noticeable. But what really made me happy was Trocheck going out there and winning a draw in the defensive zone. Hopefully, some of that is fixed. Krapshoot was a little flat footed early on but he seemed to start getting into a rhythm Lafreniere is a good solid high IQ hockey player. And Goat I was done with last preseason yet here he is. Still doesn’t stay in his lanes, still has no hands, was a big more physical but I just don’t get it. I don’t see anything there. And Hunt is playing like he has competition breathing on his neck. And good because he does.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:53 pm EST

Not impressed with Kravtsov so far. Like Rydahl over Carpenter.

Bob

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:41 pm EST

R47. Agreed. Bruins were dirty and nasty. Rangers took a lot of shit and didn’t reciprocate much.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:40 pm EST

Laffy with a broken foot would be very Ranger like.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:39 pm EST

That 2 on 1 for the Rangers is an example of a couple guys that havnt play4ed with each other...pass was just off...that comes with time, and even just practice time...and knowing how the other guys like to play.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:38 pm EST

Meaningless loss. Pretty much a meaningless game by most of the Rangers..

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:36 pm EST

I'm surprised that THIS group of Rangers weren't more physical tonight...

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:35 pm EST

Rf4L: Doubt it. He didnt act like it as THAT bad....he got hit int he foot...it happens al the time in games. He missed the only shift his line played at the end of the period....and its pre season. I counted and it didnt look like anyone had left the bench. If they were concerned about an injury he would have left...

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:34 pm EST

You would think with all of the downtime and after the season the Goat would learn 1 other move. I feel like it worked once or twice and he now has it ingrained in his head.

Cnparda

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:32 pm EST

Is krappy related to Cheetos?

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:31 pm EST

Laffy broken foot??

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:26 pm EST

Very good 3rd period by Krav!

JFC31

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:19 pm EST

Nosendick ditty: “BTW Goodrow will be in the lineup sometime soon.” Gee thanks. Idiot.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:13 pm EST

Rf4L: He went RIGHT back to the exact same play the next chance he got...may have been a "lets try this" type of thing...wonder if he woudl try that in the regular season...we shall find out for sure.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:13 pm EST

Cuylle invisible.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:10 pm EST

and he has a hell of a wrist shot...

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:10 pm EST

The goal is on Trochek forcing a pass that wasn’t there.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:10 pm EST

Rf4L: he definitely looks more relaxed...smoother in every movement.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:09 pm EST

Rf4L: I kind of think he will be another JBro. Effective, hard working, but an AHL guy that earns call ups where he makes people say "if he only could have..."

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:08 pm EST

Krapsnot way more noticeable this game. In a positive way.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:08 pm EST

Oh and watching this game on NHL network and having the Bruins feed...I find myself waiting to hear the play by play guy say "And now, for the rest of the story" It does not sound like I watching a hockey game....

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:07 pm EST

Triv is a nice story but sure looks like an AHLer to me.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:06 pm EST

Rf4L: JBro is good for injury fill ins when there re 2 or 3 guys out. He has skill...liek we just saw there...almost hurried one. The guy isn't devoid of ability...its just the ability to do it regularly at the highest level. The AHL is littered with guys like him. Good to have for the farm team to help them, a good pro, like he does things the right way and you are not worried about him leading young players the wrong way, and good to have for call ups, and then not so valuable that if when sending him back down you lose him on waivers.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:03 pm EST

Ranger47: THts the things thats hard to see. I mean are those broken plays because they are not ready, or because they are expecting one thing, and another happens, and then they toss the puck away becsaue they send it to the wrong spot? I am sure that there is at least SOME of the issues stemming from not having played together, in some cases, ever, even in scrimmage. SO there has to be some issues that would not last long after lines are set and some games re under their belts.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:03 pm EST

Skinner is indeed shit.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:01 pm EST

Carpenter sucks.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:00 pm EST

Hoping no more Brod after this preseason.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:57 pm EST

Hope to see more out of Trochek in the 3rd. Without our 1st line, Panarin and even Chytil these guys are looking like a poor AHL team. Not sure how much of that is not being used to playing with each other versus not close to being NHL ready....

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:39 pm EST

bringing

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:38 pm EST

RF4L: I thought that Tinordi wasn't playing badly but Skinner sucks which is beinging the pairing down....

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:33 pm EST

Carpenter a lock now. Bruins dirty.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:30 pm EST

I think it's funny...the game on NESN (NHL Network game) keeps showing that John Tavares is injured and out but keeps showing his team as the NYIs instead of Toronto....

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:18 pm EST

The Skinner/Tinordi pairing is atrocious

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:16 pm EST

Nosendick in mid-season form babbling through at least 1/3 of the actual play. Assholes.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:16 pm EST

Not for nothing but Vesey is a much better choice then Hunt…playing well hopefully he can keep it up.

Steve443c10

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:09 pm EST

That Bruins goal shouldn’t have counted….Studnicka smashed Lindy in the face with his stick….shoulda been a high-sticking penalty!

JFC31

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:08 pm EST

That Bruins goal shouldn’t have counted….Studnicka smashed Lindy in the face with his stick….shoulda been a high-sticking penalty!

JFC31

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:08 pm EST

Bad play by Lindgren. Then worse play by the shitty refs.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:08 pm EST

Stick to the head - should have been a penalty...

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:05 pm EST

Nosendick babbling away. So different from last night. The play by play guy was way more professional and helped keep Shitelitti’s annoyance minimized.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 7:00 pm EST

Where’s Sammy?

Puckyou

Tue Sep 27 2022 6:58 pm EST

Just tuned in to see the wonderful Nosendick duo intermission. *sigh*

Rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 6:58 pm EST

Stevie - “Gerber baby!” LOL! Thanks…now I’m gonna see that every time he’s on!

JFC31

Tue Sep 27 2022 6:57 pm EST

Rhydal looks good again! Nice speed & you can tell he’s no rookie. Krav needs to pick it up…very tentative. I really liked Halak that period. Very important that he is good at moving the puck. This will provide more continuity w/Shesty’s puck skills. D won’t have to adjust as much & it keeps pressure off of them on dumps-ins

JFC31

Tue Sep 27 2022 6:03 pm EST

Dickaletti looks like the gerber baby . He needs the nosen combover hairdresser

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 5:41 pm EST

HOSPO- Agreed, if that’s tonight’s lineup I’m NOT going to Vegas anytime soon! But those were the morning practice lines, the guys playing traveled to Boston. Vince guessed Pajuniemi would be in, but pretty close. My lines are my guess based on the Rangers release of the roster!

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 27 2022 4:56 pm EST

Thanks for the insight. That’s what I thought. Disneyland is beta testing this with some season pass holders. Giving us a slight discount for using it. Convenience with an eye towards making money seem like it doesn’t exist.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 4:22 pm EST

All of my tickets are handled thru the MSG App....https://www.msg.com/madison-square-garden-official-app

RF73

Tue Sep 27 2022 4:19 pm EST

E your good with the tickets. They have a special way to read them

Jnyr

Tue Sep 27 2022 3:53 pm EST

Quick question to some of you. I just bought some electronic tickets for MSG. I just bought some as I’m in town next month. Downloaded to my apple wallet. Saw that there was no bar code. Just wanted to confirm with someone that MSG uses the new tap feature that doesn’t show any barcode to scan. I used it on at Disney not long ago but before I had to jump out of line and thumb thru emails at the game I wanted to confirm that you can just tap nowadays. Anyone know?

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 3:16 pm EST

Cuyle should be interesting. He’s gonna want to bring his style of play and show he belongs. Not so interested in seeing him fight although I suspect given the chance he’ll like to get into it. I just want to see good finished hits, covering his lands and playing high IQ hockey. His chances of making the team probably are very low out of the gate. But I do think he’ll get his shot this season. But as always I always remind people to look at players and what they do as opposed to the score line. I’d like to see some good performances.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:55 pm EST

STEVIE/CM - If WM's practice lines are what we will see for the game, remind me never to trust CM's best guess crystal ball! Just busting CM's jump!

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:41 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano · 4hLines for today's #NYR practice:Kreider - Zib - KakkoPanarin - Chytil - SmithBlais - Goodrow - ReavesOthmann - Gettinger - Khodorenko - SykoraMiller - TroubaJones - SchneiderHajek - WelinskiIgorGarandI would assume most of these guys, if not all, won't play tonight.

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:40 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2hAfter connecting the dots, here’s what I’m expecting for tonight’s #NYR game:F- Lafrenière, Trocheck, Kravtsov, Vesey, Carpenter, Hunt, Cuylle, Rydahl, Gauthier, Trivigno, Brodzinski & PajuniemiD- Lindgren, Fox, Robertson, Skinner, Tinordi & EmbersonG- Halak & Domingue

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:38 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·29mThe #NYR have assigned this year's second-round pick, Adam Sýkora, to HK Nitra in the Slovak league. That was the plan all along and brings their training camp roster to 61 players.

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:33 pm EST

Ooops, that was do CM and Bob..referencing the scrubs.....Remember the Bruins/Isles/Flyers vS Rangers pre-season games of 40 -50 years ago? OK, I know some of you weren't born yet, but they were some amazing games..well, if you liked hitting, fights and blood!

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:30 pm EST

CM - Scrubs or not, guys like Krapshot and Gauthier should have a lot of motivation to play their asses off..Same thing for the Vesey-Rydahl-Huntsie line...which may get alot of play if the Bruins do typical Bruins things..Interested in watching Cuylle also...

Hospo

Tue Sep 27 2022 2:28 pm EST

The lineup is showing a bunch of guys who are contending for a roster spot. Carpenter is still battling. Rhydal is battling. Vesey is getting another look. You start looking at the tea leaves and you begin to see who is getting the deeper look.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 1:20 pm EST

I'm havign a hard time recognizing many of the names on the Bruins roster for tonight?: Forwards: Samuel Asselin, Justin Brazeau, Charlie Coyle, Trent Frederic, A.J. Greer, Joona Koppanen, Marc McLaughlin, Georgii Merkulov, Matthew Poitras, Craig Smith, Oskar Steen, Jack Studnicka, Luke Toporowski Defensemen: Mike Callahan, Brandon Carlo, Connor Carrick, Hampus Lindholm, Mike Reilly, Anton Stralman, Jacob Wilson Goaltenders: Brandon Bussi, Kyle Keyser, Jeremy Swayman

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 27 2022 12:40 pm EST

Ooh...no Boyko. Oh well.

rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 12:37 pm EST

Typical road preseason roster. Scrub-filled.

Bob

Tue Sep 27 2022 12:29 pm EST

These are the guys playing tonight, with my best guess as to the lines: LAFFY-TROCHECK-KRAVTSOV, TRIVIGNO-CARPENTER-GAUTHIER, VESEY-RYDAHL-HUNT, CUYLLE-BRODZINSKI-ELSON, FOX-LINDGREN, ROBERTSON-EMBERSON, TINORDI-SKINNER, HALAK-SPICY PORK. Doesn't look like Boyko is playing?

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 27 2022 12:20 pm EST

I'd be looking to sign Miller to a long-term contract before he prices himself out of our cap...

Ranger47

Tue Sep 27 2022 11:38 am EST

Cm thanks. He looks like he needs a new helmet .

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 11:36 am EST

Halek and Boyko in nets tonight. I'm curious to see how the latter fares. Reports out of camp are saying he's vastly improved over his showing last fall. Imagine if the Rangers have landed yet another legitimate NHL goalie prospect with this kid? Talk about riches...

rf4L

Tue Sep 27 2022 11:30 am EST

Stevie- Key = K'Andre (Pronounced Key-Andre)

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 27 2022 11:23 am EST

E who is Key ?

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 27 2022 10:26 am EST

Things I liked? Othmann obviously. Man, that kid is a real pain in the ass. Didn’t get lost in the moment at all. Key was ridiculous. We always said it, when he gets that physical side of his game down he’d be a force. He cracked a few guys. I really like Ryhdal. That guy really likes to bang. I was unlike some of you okay on Carpenter. Yeah, he’s slow, and I don’t like these physical guys who just skate in sand. I want guys who hit quick and escape the zone quick. Everything at high speed. He just isn’t that. I’m holding my tongue on his PK prowess till I see it more.

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 10:15 am EST

Key looks frighteningly good. I know he spent a lot of the summer in da beauty league which is filled with good NHL players but he just looked like a machine. He was jumping in all the holes, making the right feeds and seeing seams and being creative. On the back check he hunted people down and just draped over them. It was obvious that Key was starting to tap into his offensive game but the New York Rangers may wanna wrap him up under contract soon because I think he is gonna get better. Maybe a lot better. I would not be surprised if he surpasses a 55-60 campaign. But then again…

E

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:57 am EST

Miller was dominant….Looked like he owned the ice….Just how much better can he become?….Was great seeing hockey again and I haven’t had higher expectations for a Ranger team in a long time….This team is deep….

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 9:53 am EST

Just one game but Rangers looked real good. None of the sloppy play you normally see this time of year…Thought Vesey was one of the better players on the ice….He can kill penalties and not a zero offensively….Much better than Hunt or Gauthier…Didn’t really see anything from Kravtsov…Hopefully he has to earn his spot….Jones had a strong game and moves the puck real well….Hajek steady and sound defensively….Carpenter was not good at all but just one game….

PJ

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:59 am EST

if Carpenter shows again like last night, get rid of him. i cant imagine him and Reaves on the same line. two old slow pokes, no thanks.

stepunmytoe

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:58 am EST

Oops, make that “…we AREN’T even supposed to keep score.”

Limbo

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:57 am EST

JoeM hit on a good point last night - preseason games are kinda weird. You have vets that are just trying to work up a lather. You have kids that are there to impress. You have bubble-vets that are straight up desperate. A weird mix of motivations. And the opposition is in the same boat to varying degrees. But, although it’s just a step above a scrimmage, it is a competition. I agree with the Bill Parcells thoughts - if you are playing a game, it is still important to win. I want to win every game, even the “meaningless” ones. Heck, I want to win every one of my kids flag-football games that I coach - and we are even supposed to keep score! Does that mean we trot out MIKA or IGOR if they take a knock? Of course not. And it won’t mean that much come April, the main point is seeing what we got and prepping for the season. Regardless, I still liked to see that win last night. Better than a loss. Still way early, BUT, if MILLER keeps this up, we may have 2 NORRIS trophy winners on this team. I believe that hasn’t happened in over 60 years.

Limbo

Tue Sep 27 2022 8:17 am EST

Based on the one game(as all decisions are), and who played last night, cuts would be CARPENTER, TRIVIGNO, WELENSKI...On the bubble: KRAVTSOV, SYKORA, JONES, RYDAHL. Made the team: OTHMANN, HAJEK and VESEY...but of course, all of these decisions also have to take into consideration waivers and whether the guy has a contract....VESEY is the easiest one: He's better than Dryden HUNT by a lot. And while I'd like to see GAUTHIER get a shot, VESEY has a demonstrated track record and is really a Swiss Army-type player...I would sign him as our 13th forward...OTHMANN, as great as he's played, belongs back in junior. And SYKORA back in Europe...even though in other seasons, I think both would be on the cusp of making the team...So basically, there are five spots on this team that could conceivably be earned...three up front and two in the back. Competition for the front is between KRAVT, GAUTHIER, HUNT, VESEY, CARPENTER, and RYDAHL...and on D, its HAJEK, JONES and ROBERTSON for two spots...KRAVT, as crazy as it sounds, makes the team no matter what simply because he can't go through waivers...And I think HAJEK is probably in the same boat. So now we're down to two and one spot...I honestly think we could end up in a spot where we take three forwards...probably HUNT, CARPENTER and VESEY, and let JONES ride the taxi back and forth from Hartford whenever someone is questionable...that puts the GOAT on waivers and RYDAHL on a one-way from Hartford. I can't see GALLANT cutting his boys, HUNT and CARPENTER...which kinda sucks because RYDAHL does look better than both...Summary for the TLDNR crew: The Rangers basically haven't had this level of competition for roster spots in a decade.

tdchi

Tue Sep 27 2022 6:59 am EST

Hospo. Miller was very good too. Lots of forays into the offensive zone. He looks ready to take a big step forward offensively. So much skill on the backline

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 10:31 pm EST

RF4L - Good to hear on CHYTL..he needs to build on his PO performance..Good news on OTHMAN too..Has the skills and not afaid to be physical. Gonna be a good one but likely too soon?...Still hope he forces the rest to up their game..and you never know..

Hospo

Mon Sep 26 2022 10:15 pm EST

If I am Dryden Hunt I am worried about Rydahl. Have we outgrown Reaves usefulness? Nothing from Krapshot. Jones is very noticeable. Brendan O has a real good offensive game. Miller was jaw dropping.Chytil looks confident. Trivigo too small and not interested in a Vesey rerun.

Jake0104

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:59 pm EST

Hospo. Chytil and Othmann.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:44 pm EST

Only saw the 2nd half of the game..saw nothing from Krapshot, but that's nothing new for for me..Although I have been pumping RYDAHL for awhile and I might be biased, I really like the way he plays.....Carpenter is GG's boy but Rydahl can make a good Black Ace and injury insurance for the 4th line..Speaking of 4th line, Reavsie looked kinda slow on that Islander goal...Maybe HAJAK and Jones will have a spirited battle for number 6..neither hurt their chances.....Who looked good at ES during the first 30 minutes???

Hospo

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:33 pm EST

Halek has a 1 year deal. I’m interested to see how Boyko fares tomorrow…

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:31 pm EST

TD. Rangers also passed on Dobson to draft Krapsnot…

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:24 pm EST

td - I was really concerned seeing Krav on the PP in the 3rd period…not moving his feet, no quick movements, just kinda ordinary passing the puck without ever looking like a threat. He looked nervous & tight…as you said, he didn’t play poorly but he was just kinda blah…not good for a kid who needs to prove something. Hell, maybe that’s the problem…he’s worried about external stuff instead of just playing. And actually, he really didn’t play much hockey last year.

JFC31

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:15 pm EST

Oliver WAHLSTROM. Man, what the fuck happened to this guy. I keep getting people telling me that he's actually really good and will be this gamer for the Isles and blah blah blah...the dude straight-out sucks...Like I won't jump up and down about KRAVTSOV's performance, but while he had a quiet game, he didn't have a bad game, per se...WAHLSTROM was a zero. Whole game. So much talent and size in that guy and he does so fucking little with it. May never be fully onboard with KRAVT, but at this point, I'm sure fucking glad we took him over WAHLSTROM. I'd be throwing fucking beer cans at my TV if I had to watch him all season long.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:12 pm EST

Game wasn't even close. And the crazy part about it is that the Isles had most of their 'big guns' in the game...the left NELSON, BEAUVILLIER, BAILEY, PALMIERI and POLUCK out...the Rangers, OTOH, were without TROCHECK, LAFRENIERE, PANARIN(!!), FOX(!!!), LINDGREN and more...The Rangers were FAR better. The Isles looked like the friggin' Bridgeport Isles...Thoughts? RYDAHL > CARPENTER, who didn't have a very good game...KAKKO is ready to break out. No question in my mind...OTHMANN is just fun. We got a hell of a player in him...Likewise with SYKORA. Both are not far from the Garden...I don't know why fans hate Jimmy VESEY so much, but I thought he had a great game and would be a great addition to the team. Hate to say it, but he looked better out there than KRAVTSOV...Not to say KRAVT played bad...he didn't...but he also didn't really do much to distinguish himself from the mix...Libor HAJEK...a good, solid game from him on D. That dude needed it. BAD...RYDAHL had his moments. He definitely didn't hurt his chances with that game...SHESTERKIN-GARAND is going to be one heck of a tandem next year. Hope Jaro HALAK hasn't signed a long-term lease.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:10 pm EST

Oh, and I really liked Rydhal a lot.

E

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:09 pm EST

Romanov is a real pain in the ass. Othmann is gonna make it really interesting coming final cut. Pretty happy with a lot of aspects. Don’t care about the score but definitely a lot of good things to like.

E

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:51 pm EST

Missed the 1st period but Rangers were so much quicker than the Islanders it was completely lopsided. Rangers were moving and THINKING quicker than the Iceholes…anticipating what they were gonna do. I thought Rydahl looked like a player that GG would like, I thought Hajek looked relaxed & confident, Trevigno good, too. I thought Krav looked tight & tentative….like he was thinking too much.

JFC31

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:43 pm EST

Yaaay. Really strange listening to the game and having to constantly check to see if the name they just called is one of yoru guys. Love to win though, especially against this team.

wiosa

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:36 pm EST

Another thing. After tonight...I woudl have zero issue with Vesey being signed for a minimum deal. Not to be a regular, but as the 13th F i would rather have him than Hunt. ts clear he is a better player than Hunt, and he can play up and down the lineup if needed. He amy get offers from other clubs though...and someone may offer him a bit more (900K or something) if they have a guy go down in preseason or a gut doesnt look as good as they hoped for. But he woudlnt be an anchor when put in here and there.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:32 pm EST

On thew draws thing...NHL.com has Rydahl not taking a single draw. A little surprised by that...

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:29 pm EST

DCI: They are at least even. Haven't paid enough attention to draws to see who is up against who...thats a big part of it.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:28 pm EST

Knee jerk hot take. Rydahl>>Carpenter

DCIGolfer

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:26 pm EST

The most impressive thing I see is the Rangers depth, it’s just not close between the talent on the Rangers and the Islanders. Someone who deserves to be in the NHL won’t be on the Rangers.

Cnparda

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:12 pm EST

I could see GG liking this Rydahl guy. Nothing flashy. But looks smart. Haven't seen any big mistakes. Solid off the puck. Good skater. Good stick. He looks like a good safe player to have in the 4th line...or as the spare, or the first call up since he is waiver exempt.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 8:09 pm EST

Hajek steady.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:53 pm EST

I sure am not missing Nosendick.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:53 pm EST

Romanov is a dirty prick. Fits right in with I-holes.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:49 pm EST

So far, so good. Kids look good. Kappo looks a lot more confidence and actually looks like a bit different player. Sykora looks like a possible future NHL’r, another good pick. My boy Kravstov does not look out of place. Always seem to make a right safe play. Good ice vision, very good anticipation and seems like he has no issue with the NHL game speed, which is an issue for the most kids. Same applies to Kappo, which is a great sign. Othmann, will be a hell of a player one day. You can see it, but kid needs time. No need to rush him.

andrei

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:38 pm EST

Its also nice to see after the whistle around the net that Krav (while not being nasty or anything) is right int e blue paint. Some more finesse types and skilled types, especially when young, wil not go right there...Not that I expect he will become some nasty after the whistle guy, but its still nice to see him moving right in there.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:33 pm EST

Man Oth and Sykora on the same line are a couple of little buzzsaws

Stepunmytoe

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:31 pm EST

RDW: I didnt notice it...but what I did notice is may laughter...I cant believe the NYI gave up the 13th overall pick for that guy. He just isn't all that steady looking.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:30 pm EST

SO didnt get to see the first...but so far in this second period I have already noticed a couple things. First. Krav, sneaky with the puck, and finds his way into soft areas. Someone said he leaves himself open for hits...but it seems like he knows that, and makes a move at the right moment to not leave it hanging out there too long. Now that might change when the games are for real, and against top defenders. Second. Jones. He must have done a lot of film work this summer or something. Because he isn't doing the drift away and scurry back thing. He is much quieter on the ice when off the puck. Also, this is the Chytul the Rangers have been waiting for I think. He is patient with the puck, confident with it...makes plays rather than tossing it away. Its just a pre seasons game and just a period...but the things really stand out.

Wildcard

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:27 pm EST

Anyone else catch that Romanov elbow on Kravtsov?

RDW

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:20 pm EST

Krapsnot leaving himself way to vulnerable for big hits.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:14 pm EST

Rf: I agree. He is a slug. Dont need it

Stepunmytoe

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:12 pm EST

Carpenter sucks.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:51 pm EST

Rf4L...agreed on Othmann and he has put on 10 lbs over the summer. can't wait to see Cuylle, maybe tomorrow against Bos ?

Newfie_Ranger

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:45 pm EST

Othmann is very impressive.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:42 pm EST

Schneider = Steady Eddie.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:38 pm EST

Refs in mind season form

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:32 pm EST

I will say id rather Vesey over Hunt. Aint sayin much.

Stepunmytoe

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:31 pm EST

KK 2 opportunities to throw a hit. Nothing. Oh well.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:29 pm EST

Panarin’s right wing Jimmy Vesey!

Bob

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:27 pm EST

Jimmy’s Feces!!!

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:27 pm EST

Jimmy feces

Stevielegs

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:22 pm EST

Horrid play by Chytil.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:20 pm EST

othmann got lit up!

NV94

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:19 pm EST

Othmann not playing against teenagers and pays the price.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:17 pm EST

Carpenter thinking he’s Panarin. Geesh.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:15 pm EST

Limbo. Thx. Seems like they aren’t streaming pre-season games. I caved and bought the sportsnet streaming package.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:11 pm EST

Jimmy’s Feces. Lolol.

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:06 pm EST

As we embark on yet another season of Rangers hockey … I bid all my old friends here my absolute best for a great remainder of 2022 and a wonderful 2023. May you all enjoy good health and much happiness! And Let’s Go Rangers!

Nick

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:00 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·22m#NYR warmup rushes for preseason game No. 1:Kreider - Zib - KakkoVesey - Chytil - KravtsovOthmann - Rydahl - SykoraTrivigno - Carpenter - ReavesMiller - TroubaJones - SchneiderHajek - WelinskiIgorGarand

Stevielegs

Mon Sep 26 2022 5:25 pm EST

RF4L - this always works for me: https://nhl66.ir/simulator

Limbo

Mon Sep 26 2022 5:05 pm EST

Interested to see how thios guy RYDAHL..Guys liek him, Hajak Krapshot should be chompin at the bit to win a job...

Hospo

Mon Sep 26 2022 4:55 pm EST

Islanders lines for tonight: Parise-Barzal-Holmstrom,Lee-Pageau-Wahlstrom, Johnston-Andreoff-Clutterbuck, Kubiak-Bardreau-Durandeau; Defense:Romanov-Dobson, Salo-Mayfield; Wotherspoon-Hutton; Goalies: Varlamov, Skarek

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 4:29 pm EST

Anyone know where the game can be streamed???

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 4:19 pm EST

Pete please reach out to me ranmad94@gmail.com about tickets for Saturday after Thanksgiving

vcp1994

Mon Sep 26 2022 4:12 pm EST

R47: Good question. Based on the POs for me it's Chytil. Based on potential, it's KK. I've said it before and will say it again - he needs to add some physicality to his game or else he risks limiting his effectiveness and worse, his minutes because his coach gets annoyed (re I am certain the coaching staff has been nattering at him for that and I'm not saying he needs to be RR II; instead throw a hit here and there when they present themselves).

rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 3:29 pm EST

Greater physicality and going to the net concerns; KK or Chytil?

Ranger47

Mon Sep 26 2022 2:56 pm EST

schneidw - Here's my prediction non KAKKO: This coming season, he gets more minutes and a regular spot in the lineup and you see him put up 20 goals and 30 helpers. I think 50 points is the low side for him this season...comparing him to PULJUJARVI? I'm not so sure about that. PULJU, while rushed to a degree, also was put into catbird seat...he drew a nice cushy job alongside McDAVID when he first came in unless I'm remembering incorrectly. KAKKO just hasn't gotten that same kind of look...I also, however, think they've been a lot more level-handed with KAKKO than the Oilers have been with PULJU. KAKKO has been eased along, it seems to me, which hasn't thrown him into that situation where people are saying 'well he's on a line with Z/PANARIN, how come he isn't scoring Y goals?' Instead, we have that slow drumbeat of morons claiming his unspectacular stats prove he's a bust.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 2:35 pm EST

TDICHI: I myself have doubts about Kakko mostly centered around his speed of play (slow pace) and his tendency to hold the puck and always going to the back of the net instead of paying the price and going to the front.... His awesome net crashing goal (disallowed erroneously) against PITT has given me hope that he is starting to get it... there is no doubting his skill, its more his style of play and lack of physicality and assertiveness... to your point, there is still time for him to turn the corner... he doesnt look like a bust to me.... He strangely does mirror his fellow Finn RW (unfortuntely not Laine or Rantanan) but Jesse Pulkjvari with EDM... Not what I had hoped for when he was drafted

schneidw

Mon Sep 26 2022 1:32 pm EST

TD- I saw them a bit differently: (I know you had some of the wingers flipped but...) Kreider-Zib-Kakko, Vesey-Chytil-Kravtsov, Trivigno-Carpenter-Reaves, Sykora-Rydahl-Othmann. Bottom two lines still feisty!

ColoradoMark

Mon Sep 26 2022 1:17 pm EST

Roster for tonight's game: https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1574449499442884608. Think I saw these lines somewhere: KAKKO-Z-KREIDER, KRAVT-CHYTIL-VESEY, TRIVIGNO-CARPENTER-SYKORA, OTHMANN-RYDAHL-REAVES, MILLER-TROUBA, HAJEK-SCHNEIDER, JONES-WELINSKI, with SHESTY to start and GARAND to finish. Interesting lines. Those bottom two lines are...how shall I say? Feisty.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 12:11 pm EST

I have two tickets for the home opener and four tickets for the Saturday afternoon game after Thanksgiving is anyone is interested. I have them listed on Ticketmaster but the fees there are insane (for both buyers and sellers) so would love to do it sell them directly to a die-hard fan. They are in section 120, row 19.Let me know if anyone is interested.

pete

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:58 am EST

For those outside of the New York area, the game is on NHL Network today and tomorrow. ESPN+ for game 3.

ColoradoMark

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:54 am EST

See Alex GALCHENYUK is in Avalanche camp on a PTO. Will be interesting to see if he gets a job. Again: Another low-cost, zero-risk player they Rangers could've brought in.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:52 am EST

schneidw - Oh they're out there. Like fucking cockroaches. Wait until the lights go out and things get quiet and one of those little bastard idiots comes scuttling out from a crevice in the floor...as for what KAKKO is and isn't, I don't think its unreasonable at all to suggest he's a 30-goal scorer. The dude can control the puck, play the boards and actually has a pretty slick release on his wrister. Depends on how he's played, true. But 30 goals shouldn't be a problem with KK in the coming years. I would expect it'll be a norm. But if you're one of the fucktard roaches crying and whining about how the Rangers shoulda taken ZEGRAS or BOLDY...you're going to carp about how this guy 'hasn't done anything' since he was drafted...and then tuck into some real bullshit about his stats and blah blah blah. Like I say, if you want to do a quick pairing away of fans/people you don't need to waste time listening to, just unfollow/ignore anyone who starts a sentence by saying or even implying KAKKO is a bust. They're an idiot.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:47 am EST

Amazingly, it's on MSG and MSG+. I wouldn't be surprised if its blacked out in some parts of the state, but we shall see. I'm sure onhockey.tv will have links.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:36 am EST

Kakko: On the Athletic comments section under A Staples articles there is a huge contingent of Kakko bashers... Most of the NYR fans on Athletic expected a 30 goal scorer out of the gate...

schneidw

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:27 am EST

Here in SW Ontario games is on NHL CentreIce ... flippin between that and the Yankees and the Jays....

sjw

Mon Sep 26 2022 11:18 am EST

Does any one know where to watch this damn game tonight?

Limbo

Mon Sep 26 2022 10:53 am EST

PuckU - here is that lohud article. Love what everyone is saying here. Especially GG - “He has got to take it - we’re not gonna give you nothin”, lol. If VK has really matured, it could be a ridiculous shot in the arm. Still think there will be at least vet tinkering (at most major KANE-tinkering) at the deadline for a playoff push. But, if VK works out, this is an excellent reg season team, better than last year. https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/09/24/ny-rangers-vitali-kravtsov-hopes-to-quietly-redeem-myself/69513921007/

Limbo

Mon Sep 26 2022 9:21 am EST

RF4L -That's pretty much the whole universe of them: Morons from Rangers' Twitter. But that narrative sometimes bleeds into columns...At any rate, there seems to be an undercurrent of folks who simply don't understand the nuances of KAKKO'S stats...and why he's not putting up numbers commensurate to his draft position. And the reasons are plain and simple as they are evident: Outside of his rookie year under a really shitty coach, KAKKO hasn't had a season where he could dig into a regular assignment on a line and play a full 75-plus games. He was just getting into his groove last year when he broke is wrist. And then coming back to where the Rangers were in their season? That's like waking up from a goddamn coma and then running a friggin' marathon 30 seconds later. It's just not ideal. Nevertheless, I grow very weary of folks who bitch and gripe about KAKKO. If anything, his "slow" start(I use quotes, because I don't think its accurate at all) has gifted the Rangers a very strong player this season on the cheap.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:44 am EST

Besides twatters in twatterspace who’s calling KK a bust?

Rf4L

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:14 am EST

Wildcard - yeah, it's camp. Blah blah blah...But when you fast forward to what the lines are on opening day? If I'm a betting man, I'll go with the lines the head coach said he expects to have on opening day. I'm pretty sure my chances on that bet are just as good today as they were last week. Maybe even better, given how he split the squads.

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 7:01 am EST

Need more evidence? Here's 36 minutes of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08qr7xzX4LE

tdchi

Mon Sep 26 2022 6:55 am EST

RF4L - You can criticize whoever you want. But if you're sitting there saying KAKKO is a bust...again, you're either a moron or just retarded. Someone says shit like that and I know to read no further because that is someone who simply doesn't nor will ever understand hockey.

tdchi

Sun Sep 25 2022 10:21 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9yfGzjTh2s

mf

Sun Sep 25 2022 9:56 pm EST

Good words from Krapshot...Make me a believer Vitali!..All that being said, I hope the KID line is a bust becasue I sure as hell don't want the Rangers top 2 RWs to be two of Huntsie, Krapshot and BLais....As for Kakkao, he has the size and skills, but does he have the will and desire to use that size along the boards and in traffic on a consistent basis instead of looping and staying on the perimiter??

Hospo

Sun Sep 25 2022 9:19 pm EST

Wow. Someone has the audacity to criticize a Ranger who might someone’s favourite and s/he is a ‘retard’. I mean really? REALLY? Geeesh. The self anointed policing in here is despicable sometimes.

Rf4L

Sun Sep 25 2022 9:02 pm EST

I see Kakko as a typical puck possession player. He’s a good fit on a line where he can find his teammates in space. He’s just hard to deal with when he is lugging pucks on the board.

E

Sun Sep 25 2022 8:42 pm EST

Here's a test: Watch this video and if you can get through half of it thinking KAKKO is a bust, you're a retard and/or incredibly fucking stupid. Oh, and he's 21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8w36rjTtc

tdchi

Sun Sep 25 2022 7:39 pm EST

Kakko is 21 & 7 months old. He played in 43 games last season & 48 games the year before. A little patience !?!? https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kakkoka01.html

mf

Sun Sep 25 2022 7:37 pm EST

Rf4L: Kakko plays a game similar to Jagr. Noone woudl ever call his game "physical" He was not running around out there laying out hits. But he used his size and strength in other ways. Kakko is like that, all be it not as dominate or nearly as skilled overall. But the style is the same. Kakko needs to learn what he can do and start pressing more...but he doesnt need to be more physical on an aggressive manner...jsut using that size to not only control the boards, but to go to the front with power.

Wildcard

Sun Sep 25 2022 5:52 pm EST

punch. No hard cap = team(s) retraction = less NHLPA jobs and therefore membership. That’s the selling point for the union.

Rf4L

Sun Sep 25 2022 3:55 pm EST

Building a team that has excellence at the top and depth throughout the lineup and among the black aces is a near impossibility in a hard cap league like this with a ceiling this low. It places luck at the top of the list of what you need as a GM, rather than skill. Baseball absolutely has it right. If your fan base supports your team, you have a huge opportunity to build a championship team with skill alone that can be competitive for years. In hockey, you not only have to hit the lottery, you have to rely on all the variables breaking your way with no room for even one bad personnel decision (including health) at the top of your lineup, and very few throughout the rest of it. But if the players have no backbone to fight for their salary rights, so it shall remain.

punchrolfe

Sun Sep 25 2022 2:24 pm EST

E...and that's pretty much how I saw it...and in regards to kakko ever being a "difference maker " that is way up in the air for me. This is his last year for me to show if he is a keeper or not. If not, send him out of town on a package deal.

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Sep 25 2022 12:48 pm EST

I won’t over-reach on the Kakko last game of the season scratching too much but the guy wasn’t contributing much and the New York Rangers couldn’t get in between the circles. Like at all. It’s a testament to how good the defense of TB was but the New York Rangers backs were on the wall so GG thru it up in the air and tried something different. It wasn’t a travesty. KK was not the difference maker. The third line was totally stalled out. I think having Hunt go up like that was a testament to the lack of depth more than anything else. Behind KK on next up was Hunt. Who next? Reaves. But leave dead dogs were they are as food for the crows. On to a new world. One where Hunt is on the PP and play RW for Z.

E

Sun Sep 25 2022 12:41 pm EST

FWIW IMO GG’s biggest issue with KK is the total lack of physicality in KK’s game. Hunt from that perspective is KK’s opposite.

Rf4L

Sun Sep 25 2022 11:39 am EST

vcp....sorry to say but that says more about Kakko than it does about Hunt or GG ! I'm still waiting on this guy ?

Newfie_Ranger

Sun Sep 25 2022 11:08 am EST

So what kind of bitching and moaning and hand wringing will go on around here if the Rangers have a tough start to the season? We can all point to the silly line combos in training camp! Man can't wait for some games so we can bitch about tangible things. LOL. BTW just teasing

NYStranger

Sun Sep 25 2022 11:05 am EST

The mention of Pysie epitomizes and symbolizes everything the sucked about the Torts era. There was a lot of good but a lot of bad as well…

NYStranger

Sun Sep 25 2022 11:02 am EST

Anyone who would give up Kakko and a pair of firsts for Kane must have a screw loose and desperate. Uugghh. This is exactly the kind of deal that crushes a franchise. Make a big swing for a Cup and then nothing. Think ‘94 BUT loosing…….yup. That kind of haul has to bring back a Kane level player but 24 yo and not 34 yo. Yes he will be 34 in November.

NYStranger

Sun Sep 25 2022 10:55 am EST

Hunstie AHL player of the year big fuckin deal. He is nothing more than a depth player. Playing him over kakko was sickening in the playoffs.

vcp1994

Sun Sep 25 2022 10:25 am EST

Yes. I for one am so happy to hear "Huntsie" looks good. I cant wait to see the new and improved version, in our top six. You know its gonna happen. Something about this organization that rewards non scoring, middling players. Huntsie>Pysie

stepunmytoe

Sun Sep 25 2022 10:16 am EST

Raise your hand if you were vocal about the line setup and D pair set up on day one and day two. You k ow who you are…own it. Now look at todays setup. Kakko on the top RW spot. Jones and Schneider together on what is reportedly looking like is pre-season game one lineup. Granted. Laf is not there and Vesey is and Krav is with Chytil and Vesey. But still. GG said that we would see different lines during preseason or earlier maybe. And here we are…he did just that. He did the same thing last camp. I imagine if we went and looked he did that same type of thing with other teams camps. Clearly the guy has a way of doing things. Like it or not, he does it that way. Clearly we know basically 2 D pairs and parts of each line…but not one single full line is for sure.

Wildcard

Sun Sep 25 2022 9:45 am EST

Unless the plan is to rent Kane for a playoff run only. Obviously Kane won’t demand 10m a year again as a UFA next summer. But he will still have interest. But giving up as many assets for a 32 year old seems risky and counter to the plan in place but it’s worked before. If Kravt develops chemistry and Kakko starts showing potential, maybe they don’t pursue Kane. But if all the kids thrive, is there cap room?

ColoradoMark

Sun Sep 25 2022 8:47 am EST

Newfie, glad to hear you and the family are OK. My son is getting ready for his first Hurricane this week down in Orlando. People , are we missing something with Hunt? How can this kid be the most impressive? I don't get it

Kis

Sun Sep 25 2022 8:33 am EST

mf. With deals for Laffy Miller Chytil and Krapsnot due next summer Kane won’t be affordable.

Rf4L

Sun Sep 25 2022 8:31 am EST

The trade deadline is so far away and down on the priority list at this point in the season, besides, Patrick Kane costs nothing but money next season.

mf

Sun Sep 25 2022 7:47 am EST

Puck. Pass! Way too much. Besides if Krapsnot hits the need for Kane lessens.

Rf4L

Sun Sep 25 2022 7:30 am EST

Vince M. Wrote an article also about Kratsov for lohud, in it there’s a video of a long offensive shift by his line, he looks real good and I forgot just how big he is. He and Panarin look like they have chemistry. What’s the over/under on Brooks articles about Pat Kane at deadline for Kakko and a pair of first rounders- if Kratsov establishes himself?

Puckyou

Sun Sep 25 2022 6:02 am EST

Gallant named Dryden Hunt, who is competing for a fourth-line role on the wing. He has been working on a line with Jimmy Vesey and Gustav Rydahl.“I’m satisfied with everybody but if there’s one guy who’s standing out a little bit, it’s Huntsie, to be honest with you. I think he’s been really good.”

Stevielegs

Sun Sep 25 2022 6:01 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/rangers-artemi-panarin-looking-to-regain-his-old-form/

Stevielegs

Sun Sep 25 2022 6:00 am EST

“I have definitely made a lot of noise in the past so it is necessary for me to redeem myself a little bit,” Kravtsov, who infamously refused assignment to the AHL Wolf Pack last year and instead scampered back home to Russia, said through an interpreter. “Everyone in the locker room understands. It is all about mutual respect, putting in the work and getting on the team.”

Stevielegs

Sat Sep 24 2022 5:18 pm EST

"LARRY" https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/vitali-kravtsov-eager-to-redeem-himself-with-rangers/

mf

Sat Sep 24 2022 4:40 pm EST

Thank you ,all you guys for being so kind and thoughtful ! :) now let's get this damn season started !

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Sep 24 2022 3:53 pm EST

TD. Yep. Hence ‘not Squishface’s finest work’….

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 3:03 pm EST

Newfie_Ranger - Glad you and your family are alright, my man.

tdchi

Sat Sep 24 2022 2:56 pm EST

RF4L - And the Lightning have two cups. I think they won that trade definitively and without much of a doubt...I guess there's still a slight chance HENRIKSSON, HAJEK and/or any of those picks ends up hoisting the cup...but the low bench mark for "AS" much success is hoisting two...

tdchi

Sat Sep 24 2022 2:50 pm EST

4 juniors cut including unsigned Alfano.

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 1:33 pm EST

up = update

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 1:33 pm EST

McD/Miller trade up. As of now the Rangers have Hajek Henriksson Väisänen Laba and an upcoming first and third/fourth for them. Not Squishface’s finest work but the jury is still out on definitive conclusions.

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 12:58 pm EST

Cmark: Glad to hear mom's well.... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-10/noela-coulter-73yo-sunshine-coast-surfer/100606062

mf

Sat Sep 24 2022 12:31 pm EST

Glad to hear Newf is ok! My mom is ok, she was able to text this morning that her cottage is fine, trees not so much! No phone service and not sure but most of PEI is powerless right now. But safe!

ColoradoMark

Sat Sep 24 2022 12:11 pm EST

So Stapleface saying in an article today on each team’s most likeliest trade candidate for the Rangers it’s KK and he would be a deadline deal asset offered up…

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 10:20 am EST

Coach Newf, glad to hear you and yours are safe... CMark, mom OK?

mf

Sat Sep 24 2022 10:17 am EST

https://bluelinestation.com/2022/09/24/canes-gm-trocheck/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email

mf

Sat Sep 24 2022 9:48 am EST

Glad you’re safe. Gonna me a $$&& cleanup.

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 9:47 am EST

Newf. My wife and I are watching live reports this morning from all of NS PEI and NL. Devastating. I said to my wife: No wonder the small Carribean islands get wiped out - the storms are more intense there. Our weather is so whacko now.

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 9:33 am EST

Wow !... just to let everyone know...completely safe and sound here. it missed the East Coast and St John's were I live. It was like squaring off with Chara on the ice, gloves have been dropped and he is getting ready to make a round house right at my head but he falls backwards and the refs jump in :) Not so lucky for the West Coast in Port Aux Basques where the main Ferry Terminal is and our link to Mainland Canada by road. Several homes close to the water's edge were swept out to sea (can you imagine ?) As far as I know there was an evacuation and no loss of life. Only early reports so far. They are saying on CBC news that this was the "lowest pressure system to reach land in Canadian history . Yikes !

Newfie_Ranger

Sat Sep 24 2022 8:42 am EST

So GG says last year Hajek looked like he ‘lacked confidence’. Well phucking DUH coach. Tyard what happens when you are forced to watch 3/4s of the season from the pressbox!!

Rf4L

Sat Sep 24 2022 4:45 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/libor-hajek-ready-for-his-shot-at-bigger-rangers-role/

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:49 pm EST

Be safe NEWFIE!!!! Hope HAJAK gets a legitimate chance with SCHNEIDER

Hospo

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:41 pm EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/23/kandre-miller-pushing-for-more-in-third-rangers-season/

mf

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:36 pm EST

Hajek may have done something or nothing at all. Reminds me of life get treated like shit by management for absolutely no reason

vcp1994

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:14 pm EST

JFC. Agreed. Worse tho is that Hajek has endured this despicable behaviour for TWO years now.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:52 pm EST

Hajek was another guy who was a good soldier last season, waited patiently & raised no fuss. He’s just become a whipping boy for casual Rangers fans who like to look at analytics and pay no attention to the fact that he only played 17 games last season. There is no way that minute amount of playing time is going to,lead to anything but playing rusty & not up to your potential. I’d have no issue if he wins the 6th spot. But, after the way Gallant treated him last season, it wouldn’t surprise me if any good developments regarding Hajek are simply a ruse to raise his trade value. No way a coach refuses to play a guy one season and then comes back and talks about a guy in glowing terms on Day 3 of camp.

JFC31

Fri Sep 23 2022 5:54 pm EST

NEWF- Stay safe, hope you can avoid the worst of it. My mom is on PEI as I write this and she is bracing for impact. Hoping the worst misses her as well!

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 23 2022 5:53 pm EST

thats not to say that limiting Reaves ice time...well games totals, isn't a good idea. He isn't getting younger. And Reaves at 100% or close to it, is a force in the NHL, but when he does slow down a little, he loses a LOT, and is less of a force, and it's very noticeable. Even though he is hitting, and even though he is still probably the hardest working guy on the ice from either team. If GG can find the right balance of games off for Reaves it could be really good.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 23 2022 5:47 pm EST

It’s all fun and games until Newfe gets wrecked by a hurricane. Helps give us a sense that everything is a-okay in CA.

E

Fri Sep 23 2022 5:44 pm EST

PJ: The issue is, if they don't learn how to shut teams down in the post season, everyone will look worn down. Last year was nuts, every other day for 40 days...it's just not possible to really hold everyone at full strength and ability. I really believe that if they had finished off just one series earlier and gotten a few days rest they would have gotten closer to the finals than they really did.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 23 2022 5:38 pm EST

Good plan by GG with Reaves…Keep him fresh and you can still give him minutes when the games really count….He looked worn down and slow in last years playoffs…

PJ

Fri Sep 23 2022 4:38 pm EST

rf4L...thanks man, I will . Cheers.

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 23 2022 2:36 pm EST

Newf: Been thinking about you as I see the reports on that hurricane. Stay stuff my friend!

rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 2:31 pm EST

GG on Reaves: "I'm not gonna say he's playing every night... But when we make our lineup and look at our team in the summertime, he's an important guy for us."

Wildcard

Fri Sep 23 2022 2:18 pm EST

Just gettin ready for Hurricane Fiona this weekend. Gonna touch down on good ole Newfie-land on Saturday. We should be OK here on the east coast (Avalon Peninsula). can't say the same for the west coast. See you on the other side ...LOL

Newfie_Ranger

Fri Sep 23 2022 11:46 am EST

E: Agreed. Its sad to see any player go through what he is dealing with. TO work so hard your entity life to achieve a goal, and to jsut barely get there and have it ripped away must be devastating. IN his case its a lot more scary since he has some hereditary issues with migraine, and now he has had a significant head injury. His chances of full recovery are zero...because his full recovery is still dealing with brain issues.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 23 2022 11:05 am EST

Rf4L: The thing is...there was zero chance that any changes woud be made in that group with the Hajek/Schneider pair...since yesterday was their first official "practice" and then today that groups first "official scrimmage". Of course there was no change, I imagine the first changes we will see are heading into preschool season game one...since, well...GG has said it more than once. People need to step back a bit...GG clearly has a plan since he has hinted at it a couple times now this camp, in jsut the first day...and I dont think there is anything to really read into...Last year GG did head scratching things in camp that we never saw again all season.

Wildcard

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:56 am EST

Hard to sit there and see Nolan Patrick and think what could’ve been. Kid has so much in his tool bag but at some point it’s more about life. Or even quality of it. Initially, I thought he could pull out a Tomas Hertl thing. In that Hertl has his career cratered by injuries that stymied his development and cut him short. And yeah it did. His trajectory was superstar. Instead he’s just very good. Patrick is dealing with his head. I’m not sure you’re ever okay. I still remember the little piece that I saw on Chris Pronger who was just beginning to venture into sunlight after 4-years. His concussion symptoms were so severe that sunlight induced migraines to the point he would puke just being outdoors. Now? My brother in law says he sees him regularly surfing at Dana Point with Paul Kariya. One has to wonder if his life is gonna be permanently effected by head issues. Maybe he should get to Peru and do that Ayawaska (sp?) treatments.

E

Fri Sep 23 2022 10:34 am EST

Cm and he doesn’t like to speak English and he’s not captain material and …..

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 23 2022 9:56 am EST

Nicolas Hague: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hagueni01.html

mf

Fri Sep 23 2022 9:52 am EST

TD. Suspect the RR placement is because he’s made the team and will be the 12th/13th forward depending on opposition and injuries.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 9:50 am EST

Ranger twatterland likely all full of angst: Day 2 of the Schneider/Hajek pairing.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:58 am EST

So I'm going to have a bit of fun reading far too into things...but I think those assignments ColoradoMark listed have some interesting Easter eggs tucked betwixt...Each of the three squads has what is presumed to be a full NHL line and a full NHL pairing. Notice who is paired with SCHNEIDER? Yup. Libor HAJEK. I was expecting ROBERTSON or JONES, but both are on the pairing that is...experimental...Obviously with three squads, there's no indication of fourth line...but the two 'most likely' to make the team? GAUTHIER-CARPENTER-TRIVIGNO, VESEY-RYDAHL-HUNT. I would expect some permutation of those two lines to be our fourth line. REAVES, in other words, skating with guys who are not likely to make the squad(SYKORA/BRODZINSKI).

tdchi

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:53 am EST

I know cap-wise it won't work but Nick Hague of the Showers is not in camp due to no contract. 6'6" defenseman with a mean streak who played in Vegas's top 4. I'd love to nab him and put him alongside Schneider!

rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:38 am EST

I've read around the horn this morning and the stupidest, most news-devoid column out there is the one penned by fucktard Brooks. That dude wrote the column almost solely so that he could put his own name into it. That idiot is beyond self-absorbed. And the best part about it is that while he's writing about the great advice he gave to a goaltender a fucking decade ago, he's getting scooped by the Athletic. Legend in his own mind. Speaking of someone who is well-beyond retirement...

tdchi

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:20 am EST

Man, that is sickening news about Nolan PATRICK, but I totally agree. At this point, I don't know how the kid continues. It's just very sad, because he's such a wonderful talent. But at some point, you have to choose life over a sport. And that point for him was probably a year ago or more. Kinda reminds me a bit of Patty LaFONTAINE's situation...the dude was always one bump away from a serious issue. Probably should'a never skated with the Rangers. Fortunately, he did pull the ripcord after his collision with KEANE and to my knowledge, has lived a complete life since then...PATRICK? Just so sad. What could've been.

tdchi

Fri Sep 23 2022 8:07 am EST

Stevie- But… but Panarin is too soft and doesn’t play like Messier did…and his salary… and he’s not big…

ColoradoMark

Fri Sep 23 2022 7:00 am EST

Nolan Patrick will not play this year. Battling concussion symptoms. Again. Retire kid. Please.

Rf4L

Fri Sep 23 2022 4:42 am EST

“This, by the way, recalls the time that shooters would routinely fire high at Henrik Lundqvist during practices run by then-head coach John Tortorella, who mocked a reporter (Take three guesses) for privately advising the King to simply leave the net the next time it occurred.”…https://nypost.com/2022/09/22/igor-shesterkin-furious-after-collisions-at-rangers-practice/

Stevielegs

Fri Sep 23 2022 4:40 am EST

Oh yes trade breadman asap … lol…“I played against him for a lot of years,” Trocheck said. “Sometimes, you’re playing against him, sitting on the bench and kind of just sit back and watch as a fan. It’s kind of crazy to watch the stuff that he does out there. Things that I wouldn’t even think about doing.“He’s a special talent and I see myself out there getting passes that I’m not even ready for because he just gives them to you when no one’s expecting it. Fun to play with.”

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 22 2022 5:26 pm EST

Update. Othmann was playing with Carpenter and Gauthier, so swap him and Trivigno. Reaves was skating with Elson and Khordenko, so a bit surprising with that one.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:51 pm EST

And Finally Team C: LAFFY-CHYTIL-KAKKO, VESEY-RYDAHL-HUNT, CUYLLE-MCCONNELL-BARKER-ALFANO, JORDAN-FRITZ-WHELAN, and DIGIACENTO. HAJEK-SCHNEIDER, JONES-WELLINSKI, SCANLIN-GUITARRI, DOMINGUE-GAHAGEN-BOYKO. This group has the kid line, the 4th line Black ace candidate line and some kids including the much heralded ALFANO. Also of note that HAJEK skated with SCHNEIDER and JONES with WILLINSKI so Twitter's collective heads exploded. Also Spicy pork, an AHL contract goalie and our 6'8 unsigned goalie prospect.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:45 pm EST

TEAM B: PANARIN-TROCHECK-KRAVTSOV, SYKORA-J.BROD-REAVES, EDSTROM-KHORDENKO-RUESCHOFF, GETTINGER-LOHIN-SMITH, and ELSON. MILLER-TROUBS, ROBERTSON-EMBERSON, HILLMAN-MARTIN, HALAK-GARAND. (Again not sure about where the LW's fit in but also interesting that EDSTROM is another big center who is listed as a LW. This group is definitely less skilled than group 1 after the 1st line.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:32 pm EST

(I forgot Easton Brodzinski, Johnny's Brother, as the 13th forward. Also of note REMPE is listed as a RW. I thought he would be groomed as a Center so that was surprising.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:30 pm EST

So the three practice groups are what they are using for the first three days. Based on reports and estimated guessing here are the lines for each group. Some of the bottom lines are total guesses, so this isn't written in stone. The reason I am posting this is I think these lines give you an idea of where management sees certain players. Of course none of it means anything, but I at least find it a good discussion point: TEAM A: KREIDER-ZBAD-BLAIS, TRIVIGNO-CARPENTER-GAUTHIER, OTHMANN-KORCZAK-REMPE, BARBASHEV-GRUBBE-HENRIKSSON, FOX-LINDGREN, TINORDI-BARTKOWSKI, HEANAULT-SKINNER, SHESTY-LINDBOM. Obervations: So they have one potential top line, 3 potential 4th line/spares on the second line, 3 1st year pros on the 3rd line and low level prospects on the 4th. TRIVIGNO/OTHMANN might be switched, but I'm just guessing. Then a top D pair, a Bubble 7th D-Man pair and an AHL pair.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:00 pm EST

Sounds like Othmann scored the first goal of the scrimmage and (no one woulda guessed) GGauthier scored the 2nd. Goodrow isn't scrimmaging (Precautionary- but if there was a game he would have played) and Reaves and Carpenter in different groups the closest thing to a 4th line was: HUNT-RYDAHL-VESEY. Also, Sykora ran into Shesterkin and Shesty slammed his stick and looked hurt (You could set your alarm to Shesty getting hurt and somewhat dramatic response!) but all is fine.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 2:44 pm EST

Yeah I am sure the Rangers, Trouba and Laff and Miller are just freaking out over this hug blow to the lockerroom chemistry. I mean this is definitely like the Oakland A's of the '70's or the Bronx Zoo Yanks!

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 2:28 pm EST

Someone should fire the PR person who thought up this best friend thing. Despite the positive upside, there's too much of a downside risk to be going down this path.....

Ranger47

Thu Sep 22 2022 2:24 pm EST

CoMark: What a load of crap...

rf4L

Thu Sep 22 2022 2:09 pm EST

Some of these bloggers: (From the U Gotta be kidding me dept!) https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3434650/theres-a-big-time-chemistry-issue-brewing-between-two-of-the-rangers-brightest-young-stars

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 2:01 pm EST

tdchi: So I have zero idea how this works anymore so a question .As for Russian players not allowed in Tournament's..Is the player that plays for the national team, that resides in Russia and not drafted or in the NHL still a member of Russian Military and can be called upon at any time ??? If yes it would make perfect sense they cannot play ? If no agreed its stupid. I could be off by 20 years ???Either way no win for those players.

shonuff

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:48 pm EST

COMark: Laf and his agent have two choices. Use the cap as it is now and will be next year. OR bridge until the cap is freed up and he can sign for the same cap percentage but more actual money. There are risks for both paths, but I am sure there are agents and players discussing that stuff since the cap froze, and more now that the end is in sight and expected.

Wildcard

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:45 pm EST

Rydhal: Someone just made a really good point on Twitter about him. He has a one way contract but is waivers exempt. That could give him a leg up on being the “normal” 13th F. Why is that? He can be assigned to Hartford on paper, removing him from the cap, but not affecting his pay. That means they can send him down on off days, and he won’t give two shits because he will get the same pay. That won’t create massive changes in the cap…but it does all add up. If he spends 30% of the days off the roster cap wise that’s like having 30% of the season without a 13th F. May not get away with if with guys on waivers. That would be a business decision added to the hockey one, but really, how much will really separate the guys battling for the 13 spot?

Wildcard

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:37 pm EST

So the guys who are going to get paid: LAFFY, MILLER. Guys who will get paid or traded: CHYTIL, KRAVTSOV(RFA), BLAIS(UFA),JONES (RFA). Buyout Cap Hit Leaving: 3.4M. Guys coming off the books or traded most likely, REAVES, HUNT, GAUTHIER, HAJEK, VESEY (You know he is signing), CARPENTER. As much as it looks bleak, I think it is doable. Obviously a lot depends on how the year goes. But I imagine Laffy will get a long term deal. I imagine Miller will get a bridge. CHYTIL, KRAVTSOV and BLAIS are the biggest question marks, but if everyone plays well, these are good problems to have.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:26 pm EST

RHET- If you are Laffy's agent are you pushing for an extension now? Although he seemed to pick it up after the all star break, you still see he is going to get better. If I'm his agent, I'm waiting for him to have a breakout 3rd season and then start negotiations. Probably the same with Miller's agent. STUTZLE and HUGHES already set the bar, and while that will help Laffy, a strong season will help more.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:24 pm EST

RHETORIC: this is a flat cap world. Exasperated by the fact that the New York Rangers retooled nicely. It’s gonna be tough given how many players are gonna get paid. It ain’t gonna be easy and decisions won’t be easy. And regardless, the fans are gonna crucify Drury regardless. I’m just wondering what the economics of the league will be in 4-5 seasons. It might be ugly. Ask TB and COL will have to pay the piper for the mistake of winning.

E

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:19 pm EST

If GG DOES keep the Kid line intact, might he not in games wait to see which 2 of the top 3 "more balanced" lines are going and allot playing time based on that per game rather than limit the Kid line to 12 minutes?

Ranger47

Thu Sep 22 2022 1:03 pm EST

I can see both sides. WJC does have "Russia" on the jersey. NHL teams in Czech Republic won't. But, we haven't lived for decades under Soviet era oppression so we may not have the same visceral reaction to Russian aggression.

HellsKitchen

Thu Sep 22 2022 11:51 am EST

GG seemed like he hared the kid line, now all of a sudden he's it's biggest fan? What are we doing here? If Blais has a big season, good for him, but how do we re-sign him in the offseason? We really don't have the money. Why haven't we signed Miller and/or Lafreniere to extensions? I can see both players having big years. How much is Laffy worth? I guess we can always follow the Sather bridge deal method. Yay?

Rhet0ric

Thu Sep 22 2022 11:36 am EST

Think I lamented about this before, but the punishing of Russian hockey players over Ukraine seems so counterproductive. Wasn't a big fan of them being pitched from the WJCs and even less a fan of this...Hockey players are international. They may hail from a country and wear the colors, but there's no better way to conquer xenophobia than to travel abroad, meet other nationals and exchange ideas...all of this happens with hockey internationally...and in a very small way, international hockey helped bring an end to the Iron Curtain. Players traveling abroad and see what it was like on the other side...DEFECTING under horrendous penalty and personal loss...It's a shame folks can't see that when they're banning not just a country, but individual players from competing.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 11:31 am EST

TROCHECK on PP1 - It's an absolute NO BRAINER to have your best faceoff guy on your first unit. ABSOLUTE no brainer...I guess it'd make less sense if he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn door...but TROCHECK has nasty shot and is very good around the net. He's STROME++...maybe even +++. The PP will, as crazy as it sounds, be much improved with him on it.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 11:29 am EST

JFC31 - Said this last summer when I speculated that BLAIS would be where he's starting and I'll say it again: This wouldn't be MY approach to the Rangers' lineup...but I do understand GALLANT'S approach. And I don't necessarily think it's a bad one...the proof will be in the pudding. I think the LAFRENIERE-CHYTIL-KAKKO line pretty much showed that all of those players are ready for big minutes...the question I have is in the execution. If the idea is to roll three or four through one and then start shortening the bench from the middle of the second onward, then I think these lines absolutely suck balls. Gotta let LAF fly...but I don't necessarily see him doing that...re: KRAVT? I don't think I have to remind anyone here of my stance toward this kid. And if I were coach, I'd pretty much tell him he has to force his way into the lineup. But the reality of keeping LAF-CHYTIL-KK together is you have no shoe-in RW for the PANARIN line. MY choice would be GAUTHIER, TBH. Good soldier, quietly waiting for his chance. But KRAVT is a more talented player, for sure. And the other options outside of those two are just total nonstarters(though I absolutely LOVE PAJUNIEMI)...OTHMANN? He's better starting in juniors. CUYLLE? Better starting in Hartford...And on top of this all, if the play IS to have GOODROW start on fourth line with CARPENTER and REAVES/GAUTHIER/HUNT, then we really do have four lines that can skate...again, not the approach I'd take...but I get the logic and it's sound.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 11:25 am EST

So if you are a conspiracy type, maybe the Rangers management is trying to prevent the kids from having breakout seasons so they can re-sign both to reasonable contracts next year? Lol. I think the kids will demand more ice time. I hope Gallant can find more ice time for lines 3-4 this season as it will keep the players more fresh in the playoffs.

ColoradoMark

Thu Sep 22 2022 10:46 am EST

I don’t think questioning ever changing science is really political, but it’s been made political. Especially since just like the wall , most are opinions few are facts.

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 22 2022 10:21 am EST

RF - point taken regarding my analogy..my bad…just trying to illustrate that QUESTIONING authority is not a crime, it’s not unjustified…especially when it comes to the history of our team. If coaches & GMs were “experts” they wouldn’t make so many mistakes & get fired on a regular basis. And I’ll reiterate the big point that you & I agree on…it’s not about Laf being on the Kid Line, it’s not about being on the 3rd line…it’s about the low ice time that comes with being there. If that line gets 16 minutes per game, then there is no big issue. But, there’s a snowball’s chance in hell that is going to happen & that relegates the #2 ES scorer tom12 minutes a game and virtually no PP time. If old-school Gallant suddenly changes his spots & starts giving the 3rd line 15-16 minutes a game, I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. Who knows, maybe Drury had a chat with GG and discussed this point…that he needs to find a way to get Laf & Kakko more ice. But, I doubt it. When he was questioned about Kakko being scratched for game 6, Drury said that GG runs the bench, not him.

JFC31

Thu Sep 22 2022 10:07 am EST

There has got to be an improvement at the faceoff dot...period. Both during normal play and on special teams...Especially on the PP where, as KIS stated earlier, 20 - 30 seconds chasing a lost face-off draw translates into 17 to 25% of total PP time...Losing your draws kills team continuity/stamina and is embarrassing if you don't have anything on underneath.

RF73

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:35 am EST

KIS: 1st Unit PP: Trocheck like Strome are both RHS, if the 1st unit is comprised of 3 RHS in Panarin, Zbad, Fox, with Kreider the only LHS parked in the crease, "then shouldn't we have a LHS on the RW who can unleash a one-timer along the lines of a Martin St. Louis? (I think this is more important than having 2 defensemen on the same pairing that shoot from the same side) Then when constructing a 2nd unit PP, we're going to need the RHS Trocheck (possibly playing the LW once in the offensive zone) and at least 1 RHS D'man (Trouba with the cannon?) I think it matters less what side whoever parks themselves in the crease shoots from, and more important to have a RHS LW, and a LHS RW for both PP Units. IF GG & Company can build on last seasons PP performance and back it up with an effective 2nd PP Unit, we're going to be 1 miserable team on opponent's schedules. jmo-snatcherally.

mf

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:33 am EST

Kis. FWIW I’ve no problem with the 3rd line of KK Chytil and Laffy but they need more than 12 or 13 minutes a game.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:31 am EST

BTW part of the Laffy issue is that ahead of him are 2 guys going nowhere anytime soon. A switch to his off-wing I think is far easier said than. And to think the team’s top forward prospects are both left wingers. It’s so Ranger like it’s not even funny.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:27 am EST

JFC. Well said but dude why close with the political crap? Serves little other than to incite baleful acrimonious posts.

Rf4L

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:21 am EST

TD - valid points and yeah, I clearly remember you talking along these lines a while ago. Look, anyone who knows coaches, especially grizzled, old-school guys like Gallant…ESPECIALLY when you look at Gallants playing career…know that they often make decisions not based on x’s & o’s but on personal feelings & instincts…and they’re not always right. I said that I thought Gallant might like Blais because he reminds him of HIMSELF when he played. I also think he’s got a personal issue with Lafrenière…not that he doesn’t like him as a person but, perhaps he thinks he has too much fun, not serious enough, etc…but more likely he just likes Blais better. Who knows but it’s absolutely possible. Gallant was never able to fix the 5v5 problems last year and so this year it appears that he prefers to have Lafrenière, who was second on the team in ES scoring, get 12 minutes per game and that makes NO SENSE to me. People were saying Laf was maybe gonna go on PP1 and I said NO WAY because GG now has HIS guy Trochek. People are also saying, “well, it’s OK if Gallant rolls his top 9 equally…Laf will then get more ice time!” That is fucking laughable. Gallant doesn’t give a shit about the development of Laf of Kakko, he doesn’t give a shit about their ice time…and like you said, this stuff is pretty obvious…Gallant wants his boys where he wants them, ES goal problem be damned. He had his lines set as soon as they got Trochek…and make no mistake about it, he ASKED Drury to get Trochek. People with shallow POV won’t have a problem if Krav takes full advantage of playing Top 6/and racks up more points than our #1 & #2 overall picks…”hey, I just want to win, I don’t care how we do it”…but smashing the development of those players is BAD for this organization and it’s a key reason why we have exactly ONE Cup since 1940. But, how dare I say that on Day 1 of camp! Day 1 lines & Gallant’s presser make it clear…this is the lineup he WANTS. Will it work out is a different question but a coach like Gallant will be FORCED to change it up only by failure…and even then he’ll resist it. Some people think it’s OK to have the NHL equivalent of a DESERTER get rewarded over your #1 & #2 overall picks…players who have done everything RIGHT, not complained & WORKED HARD…and that doesn’t have repercussions and think it shouldn’t be questioned…I don’t. Apparently, I’m not allowed to make comments until the Wall Contrarian deems it’s appropriate to do so. No judgements on Day 1 allowed…no judgements on Day 2 allowed…no judgements of the “experts” who have gotten us 1 Cup in 82 years and frittered away more top draft choices than they’ve developed. That’s like people who demand we listen to the “experts” who said the east coast would be underwater by now & a vaccine would prevent COVID.

JFC31

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:14 am EST

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/34641876/czech-government-tells-nhl-russian-players-unwanted-prague

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 22 2022 9:03 am EST

all the talk of where players should be doesnt matter now,especially in the preseason. Maybe GG is trying to form 3 very good lines. Maybe he believes the kid line has everything and they are comfortable. gives him 3 very good lines to play every game. I do think :Laf should be on the 1st PP but how do you complain about last years PP. maybe Trocheck fits well. wins the face off and we get possession quickly rather than lose the draw the other team clears and we lose 20-30 seconds of PP time. Im excited for this season.

Kis

Thu Sep 22 2022 8:45 am EST

Wild, there is no doubt that you are unequalled on this Wall…you’re a pompous, condescending asshole to a level no one one here can equal. And I’ll talk to you the way you deserve to be talked to and there ain’t a damn thing you can do about it. You consistently seek to undermine other people’s concerns, points & questions…how dare anyone here DARE to question a coaching staff or a GM…there’s Wild telling people that the coaches & GM are infallible and what then fuck do we know… and then when you get pushback, you get personal…you’re always in the middle of it with MANY people here and it’s not a coincidence. So yeah, go fuck yourself, Mr. Unequalled!

JFC31

Thu Sep 22 2022 8:32 am EST

Incidentally, the Bad News Oilers have struck again: Signed Jake VIRTANEN to a PTO.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 8:04 am EST

One other thing...I think a lot of folks...not necessarily here, but on Rangers' Twitter...forget the kind of a player Sammy BLAIS is and that he's never actually HAD a full season in the NHL...another hard-luck guy caught between circumstance(a very deep Blues roster, a global pandemic and a season ending injury) and reality. What that reality is remains the question, but in his limited time as a Ranger, I saw a dude with silky soft mitts who LOVES to crowd the net and is always stirring the pot. Not saying he'd be my first choice for first line, but neither was Frank VATRANO, and that worked out exceedingly well...He really does fit the mold for the type of guy GALLANT wants on each line, which is the mucker...the guy who does the dirty work in the corner and who doesn't mind getting battered by opposing D. That's why GG loves GOODROW so much and why I also suspect he eventually lands on second or third line...Likewise, I think that's the type of player he sees in KAKKO...but I digress...In BLAIS, nobody really knows what the guy will do with a healthy season and regular ice, because he's never had it. We'll see what he can do now.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 7:38 am EST

Yeah, there's lots of camp to go...and yeah, anything can happen...blah blah blah...but if you watched GALLANT coach last season and how he made his lines, it's all right out there...start with the fact that when BLAIS went down last year, he was skating with Z and KREIDER...then add in the fact that he really banked on the 'kid' line throughout the playoffs and didn't break them up until he started grasping at straws toward the end...well you have half your forward lines pretty much set right there...not convinced yet? Well GOODROW, the one guy who could slot into third line and free up one of those wingers, is still on the shelf and not expected to even scrimmage this week...so there...that leaves fourth line and second line RW as the two question marks in the lineup...for second line, your choices are KRAVT, GAUTHIER, HUNT, and PAJUNEIMI. OK, that's an easy answer too...Boom. Top three lines are pretty much ready to go...could Will CUYLLE look like a bull in a china shop and earn a spot? Sure! Could OTHMANN defy logic and earn that second line winger spot? Huh. Well, I guess Seth JARVIS did it on the Canes a few years back...but is it likely? Nope. Really, the big question(s?) this camp is who picks up the left side third-pairing slot on D, and who makes the cut to ride the bench and swap into third line...summing up, does VESEY make the cut, does GAUTHIER and/or HUNT end up on waivers? I guess you could throw in a small footnote on RYDAHL possibly making the cut...In general, I would say this Ranger team is about as solidified as one has been in the past decade or so. Might be some shuffling of lines when the season starts, but its all right there on paper. If you want to say it's a big mystery and everything is up in the air? You're not reading the room.

tdchi

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:57 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/gerard-gallants-focus-is-on-a-new-rangers-battle/

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 22 2022 3:56 am EST

https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/gerard-gallant-confident-in-rangers-early-combinations/

Stevielegs

Thu Sep 22 2022 12:39 am EST

More uplifting conversation up here I see. Seems the first bullet point above has become irrelevant. FWIW, I would have Lafreniere with Zibenajad and Kreider. But that is just me.

Bob

Wed Sep 21 2022 10:10 pm EST

JFC never talk to me like you are my equal or above me...you are not..in any way.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 9:54 pm EST

Thanks RF…and Wild…go fuck yourself

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 9:39 pm EST

JFC. FWIW I think your concerns have merit.

Rf4L

Wed Sep 21 2022 8:41 pm EST

and...you are forcefully ignoring that law was not comfortable not he RW side early on. HE FUCKING SAID IT...then later he said he was OK with it, and GG used him there more and more as the season went on. SO please...also stop with the child like story telling of things that are not really truthful in order to make your point....GG pulled him off after a short time because he wasnt comfortable there...and likely it was evident in his play.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 8:40 pm EST

JFC About Laf and his ice time? I could give two shits. Tell em the last first overall that was on a team that in his second year went to the Conference finals. Lets not try to say that a team that fell into a top pick based on a weird situation, is the same..lets not say that Laf walked into a situation like any other first overall ever has...usually they are walking onto teams thats are crap and basically devoid of top end talent. So please spare the BS...Laf has been fine. He is developing fine. Saying anything else is just a hopes a dream of those who are desperate to be able to find things to bitch about.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 8:25 pm EST

Answer my questions….

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 8:10 pm EST

JFC: Based on what? What are you basing what he will do on? You made my point that GG doesn't stick with day one stuff...he makes changes. He uses camp to see what guy scan do in different setups. Hell he broke up Kreider and Zib during camp last year a bit...people lost their minds. You cant just say something as fact that hasn't happened.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:57 pm EST

Love the way I pose questions, you conveniently don’t answer them and then claim I made your point…funny stuff. Stick with the whole conversation, son…

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:55 pm EST

Wild - do you think it’s a positive development to have Laf & Kakko getting 12 minutes of ice & virtually no meaningful PP time? Did you know that Lafreniere is the only #1 overall in the history of the NHL to not have a PP goal in his 1st 2 seasons? Domyiun think that’s a proud stat for our team & speaks well to how he’s being handled?

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:52 pm EST

No I didn’t make your point…I’m saying he’s not gonna do that with Blais & Krav. He’ll give them a lot more leeway if they start the season in top 6. I think GG has a bug up his ass about Lafrenière, not sure why. I think he LOVES Blais…maybe he think he reminds him of himself. And ya know what, if he starts the season with Krav at #2 RW and pulls him off after only 4 games, that is wrong, too! It’s bullshit coaching…you need to let players get comfortable before you pull the rug out from under them, especially young players. It was unconscionale to do that to Lafrenière last season after 4 games…

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:14 pm EST

JFC: You realize you just made my point right? You cant sit here and say that waht GG does on day one of camp matters...because GG will pull the rug out with only a short time...so...thank you for agreeing with my point.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:11 pm EST

Wild - you’re right…GG gave Laf 4 fucking games before pulling the plug on him. You call that a fair tryout? Is that what he’s gonna do with Blais & Kravdog? Or will he give them every opportunity to get settled & comfortable in order to show what they can truly do? Ya see I’m of the opinion that the Laf we saw in the playoffs is the one we would have seen most of the season if he had been given 20-25 games. That would have led to better ES scoring and we would have been even better instead of juggling & struggling at ES all season long. How do you put your 2nd best ES scorer in a position to get on,y 12 ES minutes per game AGAIN?

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 7:05 pm EST

Anyone here thinks it’s gonna be a positive to have Lafreniere & Kakko averaging 13 minutes per game? Anyone? Because that’s what they’re gonna get on line 3…12 minutes even strength & two 30-second mop-up shifts on the PP. It would be a completely different outlook for me if GG was anything but an old-school, set-in-his-ways coach who’s gonna do the same shit over & over again. If The Kid Line was gonna be kept together and get 16 minutes per game, I’d have no issue. But that ain’t gonna happen…if you think it is, I’ve got a bridge I wanna sell ya. Lafreniere is gonna be bending over the boards waiting for a Bread to decide he feels like getting off the ice. His ability to learn how to operate in an NHL PP will be stifled, so will Kakko’s. GG will leave the PP1 unit to decide when they feel like getting off….he’ll have to because their ES scoring is barely gonna improve….so every 90 seconds of the PP will be theirs & PP2 will get the puck in their own end for about 20:seconds of offensive zone time. I want Kakko & Lafrenière to reach their max output ASAP. I’m sick & tired of them being called busts. Give them 16 minutes or it’s a MISTAKE of epic proportions.

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 6:21 pm EST

td: Fine that means noone else played better. But you are ignoring that he said we WILL se other lines. I say in every camp...dont use camp lines to try to figure out what a coach will do. Case in point. Laf was put on the RW in camp and pre season last year. I see how that meant he was on the RW all year....oh wait.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 6:20 pm EST

Let gallant do his job . If he and drury want krappy to prove his crying about being the rw on the top 2 now he has to show it to them. He’s in the hot seat . Otherwise he will join lundqvist and be a former Nyr or be on the kid line and one of them moves up. And then he will probably stomp his feet, and drury can give him a push with his foot to help him walk somewhere else.

Stevielegs

Wed Sep 21 2022 6:17 pm EST

Wildcard - you’re wrong about that. I nailed one thing and one thing good. IT. Fuckin’ crushed it. Predicted it a month ago. And if you think this is just a ‘camp’ thing, you’re kidding yourself. We’ll see a whole shit load of different matchups before then, but that’s your 2022 first line right there.

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:59 pm EST

CMark: Hopefully the 4th line's play forces GG to roll 4 lines to the point that it cuts a minute or minute and a half off the top two lines at even strength. Me thinks fresher legs will draw more penalties, more penalties should translate into more wins.

mf

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:55 pm EST

@NYP_Brooksie·11mPer Gallant, top-9 combinations for first day(s) of camp scrimmages: Kreider-Zibanejad-Blais; Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov; Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko. Goodrow will not partake in scrimmages coming off last spring's broken ankle. Blais' final three games last year were with 20-93. <<<<<<<----This speaks to the idea that you use combinations that you know have familiarity with. And with one guy down, what do you do? Well for one thing...I know that people are way to freaking out about this...since GG said we WILL see different combinations in the preseason games. Those carry a TON more weight than scrimmages or practice drills for when it comes line configuration.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:54 pm EST

JFC: I think your post at 3:36 spoke to what I was referring to. Serves me right for reading top down & not bottom up.

mf

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:53 pm EST

E- I agree on Carpenter. As much as I appreciated Rooney, I feel Carpenter will be an upgrade. I highly doubt RYDAHL will give him much of a challenge, but if injury or Carpenter falters, he might get a shot. I think having GOODROW on the 4th line is a bit of a waste, however, last year Gallant liked moving him up and down the lineup as the game needs change. It also makes a very potent 4th line with him on it. I expect Reaves to play a good amount. He just brings the pain on the forecheck and he does keep people honest. But I expect him to not play every game, so maybe that is where Vesey comes in. Or Gauthier shocks everyone and makes it. I think Hunt could be in trouble.

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:41 pm EST

JFC: a specifically remember GG saying something along the lines that LAF was much more comfortable playing LW while in our defensive end of the ice, something about the 'board work' or playing the puck off the boards and perhaps breakouts, (perhaps you guys who have played or still play the game can speak to this) but if IIRC it was not Laffy's play in the offensive zone.. That said, if GG is going to construct a line of LAF/ZBAD/Kreider, after all these years I still don't get why Kreider, with his breakaway speed, is not on the RW so that when he does get a breakaway, he can shoot off his forehand when cutting in on the goalie. Bump Laffy to Zbad's LW & Kreider to RW. It makes sense to me, I must confess..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_kujx1LcJQ

mf

Wed Sep 21 2022 5:08 pm EST

COL: I’d be surprised if Carpenter wasn’t on the opening night roster. He was brought here because he’s a fav or GG and he is a solid PK guy. Probably will give you3-5 fights and a good amount of hits to his credit. Other than that? Bring some energy? FWIW I wonder what the role of Reaves is gonna be when this shakes out?

E

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:53 pm EST

GG said that the lines he talked bout today ar the lines for the first three days and that when pre season games we "will" see different guys in different places. He linearly said he is planning on using different lines in pre season...after the first 3 days of camp. If you are going to take what he says about opening as some sort go set in stone full meaning no way to change it...then you also need to take his other words the same way.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:52 pm EST

And wait until Vesey gets to play in the top 6 in G1 of the preseason, lol! Heads will explode. But I can guarantee when Vesey dresses, he will be put on one of those lines. I think that he can play any position makes it likely he makes the team as a 4th line platoon with Reaves or as the 13th or 14th forward.

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:46 pm EST

Who knows. We will see. It's a short training camp and a long season. I believe Kravtsov was given looks on a top line last training camp before he hurt himself (Not in shape, I think?) And was cut. I remember him scoring a highlight goal on an incredible pass from Strome on the last pre-season game, which made it more surprising that he was cut, but he hadn't gone on the team bonding trip because of his injury beforehand. That said, I agree a little bit with JFC and others, Why hand this petulant kid anything? I think Kaki and Laff are more mature and professional enough to take this in stride. If they are insulted, I doubt it will affect their commitment to the team. I do remember my mom's conversation with Mike Kelly, and one of the interesting things said was that they were trying to build chemistry with each of the lines. The duo of Mika and Kreids, hopefully the future of Bread and Jam (I'm going to push this title, lol!), and maybe they see something special with the kid line. If the line gets to play more than 10-12 minutes, I'm fine with it.

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:37 pm EST

Corey Pronman has Alex Lafrenière listed as the 10th best NHL player under age 23. The 9 players above him all get Top 6 & are on the #1 PP unit. Our guy gets 12 minutes per game and two 30-second power play shifts…and then he gets called a bust. Lovely…

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:26 pm EST

JFC: No...its not what GG is doing in view of us that matters, its what he does in view of the team, what he says to the team when its only the teams ears that are there. Why is it that soooo many fans actually think the players give two shits about what the coaches say to the press in normal every day stuff like camp drill positioning.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:25 pm EST

Give these early lines a chance and stop being "Wallbusters"... :)

Ranger47

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:23 pm EST

continue to be a menace to keep up with..... (heck, it's only pre-season, let's have some fun)

mf

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:20 pm EST

De' Ja Vu all over again, where's Legs? Didn't we cover these line combo's a gazillion times eons ago? GG is just following our instructions, as he should...... Blais & Krappy on the top 2 RW to start is a no-brainer, if Blais picks up where he left off, he's going to be a handful for the opposition. Kravtsov on a line with a top-notch Russian talent in Panarin, has ZERO excuses for any attitude issues... Both lines feature 2:1 ratios of RHS/LHS and the kidz line with a years worth of playoff dept should continue to be a My only fault with that line is that they are 3 LHS... Which brings me to the PP. There's a saying that you shouldn't, "Should" all over yourself, well, GG "should" have the most lethal 1st AND 2nd PP units in the league this season, and none of this BS of 4:1 ratio's of RHS to LHS on the 1st unit PP... Play this hand right and teams are gonna be phucked going a man down against us.... end of rant you bunch of Wallsters...

mf

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:10 pm EST

And just to reiterate,,,if GG has plans to move players around, how does it help Lafrenière to have to go back & forth, LW to RW to LW to RW? Again, why h this bullshit about problems switching wings? Blais does it. Goody does it. Lots of guys do it…a #1 overall with hands as soft as hell & an IQ off the charts can’t but career 4th liner Blais can? We think if Blais was given the identical,assignment with the same linemates that he’d outsxore Lafrenière? Blais is better than Lafrenière…is that what’s being suggested? Sammy Blais is better than Lafrenière? LOLOLOLOL!

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 4:05 pm EST

Doesn’t matter that it’s day 1. What GG is doing speaks volumes about what he values & what his preferences are. I would never in a million years give a POS like Kravstov a coveted spot after what he did. I have no problem with him EARNING the spot from the 3rd line but he should not be gifted the spot from which to take advantage of the talent he’ll be playing with. Gallant WANTS. La is to work out well at top 6…he WANTS Krav to play well and hold the spot. He should be doing that with Laf & Kakko, especially after b what they did in the PO’s…he should WANT them to play well and hold,those spots while Blais & Krav try to unseat them, not visa versa.

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:41 pm EST

JFC: No...neither should be given dibs above the other...and the other two again are placed in open spots. Stop pretending camp just broke and this is the final lineup...

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:38 pm EST

JFC: GG said things were subject to change. Maybe they already have a plan to have players move around...and just for day one they are going with the kid line. Good lord people need to stop pretending this is game 82 coming up...

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:37 pm EST

Wild - they BOTH should be given 1st dibs over Blais & Kravstov

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:36 pm EST

So easy for a guy like Kravstov to put a HUGE push on in training camp and look like he’s the answer on RW. Same with Blais…he’s been chomping at the bit to get back out there. How many times have we seen guys come in and light it up in training camp out of desperation, something to prove or just lucky timing. If Kravstov is such a good fit at Top 6 RW, then let him light it up on 3rd line RW and THEN give him a shot if Lafrenière looks ordinary, why not that approach? Don’t we think Lafrenière has made an effort all summer long to play RW & smooth out any hiccups,in his defensive coverage, practice passing from his off side etc?

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:32 pm EST

JFC: Why Laf and not Kakko? What makes you feel one should be given that chance...

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:30 pm EST

Kravstov should be the one with something to prove…not Lafrenière. He is the hockey equivalent of a deserter…he left his team mates and so GG gives him 1st dibs to show he can HOLD a top 6 spot? Nope…Lafrenière should be the one being given a chance to prove he can HOLD that coveted spot. He’s done everything asked of him, has been a good soldier, excelled in the playoffs and was PHYSICAL all season and doubly so in the playoffs. That’s the difference….Krav is getting rewarded! How does Laf PROVE he can play Top 6 RW when he’s playing LW?

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:27 pm EST

Funny how no one has an issue with Blais being able,to play both wings and Goody being able able both wings and so many other guys in the league who no one bats an eye at moving back and forth between wings. But, somehow with a #1 overall pick who has a extremely high hockey IQ and is a gifted playmaker, the group-think is its tough for him to play RW! It’s pure bullshit…he just needs a chance to get settled & not look over his shoulder. He has no problems at all working off of his backhand in the offensive zone and he hits just as capably as Blais does. #2 in even strength goals and he’s gonna get 12 minutes a game if he stays on the 3rd line…guaranfuckingteed! GG ain’t gonna up their ice time…

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:23 pm EST

JFC: Kakoo and Laf both proved they could play up there...but nether proved they SHOULD be on the top line...neither proved they SHOULD be on the second line. Krav was called out directly today...told that he needs to earn a spot...and has an opportunity. I think this mostly says that Laf an Koakko are not a goof fit for Panarin and Trocheck...something I have said multiple times I think is the case. Maybe its true...again, this just says to the kids they have to bust their asses...nothing is given....and assuming that Krav is on the 2nd line, or Blais in on the first line, and all becsaue they will be there for the first drills run at camp...its just silly.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:17 pm EST

Luckily it’s only day1 but what message does it send when a career bottom 6 guy who got 14 games last year and a malcontent who LEFT to go cry in Russia get FIRST DIBS to show that top 6 spots are theirs to lose? Like WTF? It’s like Lafrenière has to PROVE something in order to move ahead of those 2? By putting him on the 3rd line LW Gallant is already making it harder for Laf to play RW! Lafrenière EARNED a chance to start out in the Top 6 and PROVE he belonged there. Did Kravstov? Did Blais? Rangers were AWFUL at ES…Laf was 2nd best ES scorer…so GG puts him back in a position to get 12 minutes of ice time per game and then say, “well, they kinda got shorted because of all the power plays” over and over again? Like I said, it’s early but already this doesn’t bode well AT ALL! What happened to petulant punks being FORCED to work their way up?

JFC31

Wed Sep 21 2022 3:06 pm EST

Hospo: What I wonder, is it being told to the young wingers not he "3rd" line that one of them will get moved up if they show they are able, and Goodrow or Blais will take their spot on the 3rd line. Competition is a good thing. Blais wont be butt hurt if he doesn't stick with the top line....so its a low risk guy to put like him up there. What happens if the put Laf there and Kakko outplays him? Now you have to demote a kid...what if you put Kakko there and Laf outplays him? Same thing. Having the Kid Line there allows you to say "OK well Krav is left over to place somewhere" and you put him on the 2nd line...and make it known its not his and he has to win the spot. That puts all the kids in positions to be battling for the top 2 RW spots.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:59 pm EST

But here is the issue with Rangers fans. Blais could step into camp, dominate the RW side of the ice, make the top line unstaobable, cary it through the regular season and get 20 goals, 50+ points and lead the way into the post season getting near a point per game and hoist the cup...and NYR Fan will still say that they would have been better if he was on the 3rd line. The decision has been made about his career, his top end and his ability. Its not just Blais, but every decision made for the opening of camp...the positions used in drills...DRILLS...

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:58 pm EST

Blais on a 1st line..Kraphead on the 2nd line and at least starting Laffy on a 3rd likely to be inconsistent kid line all seem pretty foolish to me but it's just one day and i'll trust in Gallant ....it's all up to the players

Hospo

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:58 pm EST

GG trying to wind up the Ranger media. And fans?

Rf4L

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:50 pm EST

td: You didnt nail anything...since there is nothing to see...its day one of camp. We have no idea what the plan is other than having players assigned spots for practice...and the first scrimmage...and one player wont be doing scrimmages to start...if the season starts this way they toot away...but this is an every camp dance that Rangers fans love to do...and they always freak out, and then things are changed, and half the crap folks got upset about isnt even a thing.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:44 pm EST

For the record, I don't necessarily care about BLAIS getting the bump up. Kid line was very strong and might as well keep it together. Gives you a bottom line of GOODROW-CARPENTER-XXX, which is strong too. As long as he doesn't short third line minutes...lets them skate 14-15 at a minimum...and gives KK and LAF some special teams, I'm good.

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:40 pm EST

re: GALLANT'S lines...BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!! TOTALLY CALLED IT. Fuckin' nailed that one on the head. Though I did expect he was gonna start GOODROW on second line...still lots of time...

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:39 pm EST

What NHL coach opens camp with all new lines? ZERO thats how many. He has a new 2nd lien center...Krav makes sense there because he plays a style that Panarin plays...I have said that since last years pre camp talk. The Kid Line is the only line they will have back in full player wise at the start of camp...if they absolutely dominate camp then yeah, you keep them together. If Kakko or Laf dominate over others, you try to move them up. But its day one..and they have one guy in Goodrow they are going to go easy with at the start and not even have scrimmage early on...so its far too early to decide that Blais is actually the guy they want there. Maybe GG sees a chance to see if there is a possibility that he fits in and does the dirty work for the other two, but only uses that combo in the regular season when there are injuries or for a boost. Maybe he is hopeful Goodrow can fit there, or maybe he sees Goodrow as the RW or LW on the 3rd line, and one of the kids up on the first line, but with Goodrow being down to start is just allowing the kids to settle in a little to get going. The fact is, we dont know...but assuming anything is silly at this time.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:39 pm EST

Remembering back to that U20 tourney, I do remember being big-time bummed when I looked up TROCHECK and saw he was already taken by the Panthers...Got me thinking about who the Rangers took instead...and the short answer was Steven FOGARTY, but at 72nd, 8 picks after TROCHECK...So then the question begs, who did they pick in the second? Well interestingly enough...NO ONE...And despite initially having two picks in that round: 45th and 57th. Now here's where shit gets silly...So the 45th pick was theirs, but the 57th initially belonged to Carolina(and the Capitals before that, but who cares there)...And they got it in return for none other than Busted Bobby SANGUINETTI(the also, incidentally, got the pick that landed Jesper FAST in this deal)...but instead of picking, the Rangers decided to move BOTH picks and promising center Roman HORAK for the soon-to-be-busted Tim ERIXON...now why does this deal hurt?! After all, ERIXON was part of the package that got us the mighty Rick NASH...well, let me explain: First there's that 45th overall pick. The Flames grabbed Markus GRANLUND, who never amounted to much...most of the other picks didn't either, except for Wild Bill KARLSSON, taken by the Ducks at 53rd and who would've slipped really nicely into our second-line center slot after STEPAN was traded...but the big kick-to-the-balls was the second of the picks...the 57th that was our pick...just after Calgary pissed it away on a do-nothing defenseman, the Lightning took a shifty right winger by the name of KUCHEROV...so just to put this all in a line...had the Rangers not traded for the malcontent ERIXON...who was headed to free agency anyway...they could've drafted any combo of KUCHEROV, KARLSSON and TROCHECK with those picks. Just imagine what coming into 2014-15 would've looked like with those guys in the system...of course, Sather probably would've traded both for NASH instead and I would detest they guy even more than I do today...

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:33 pm EST

Took 10 minute for Rangers fans on twitter to lose their minds and declare the season and careers of multiple players over...LMFAO..Ranger fan is insane at times.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:27 pm EST

I guess it makes sense to try Kravtsov with Panarin. If Kravt is a shooter first, Panarin will find him. But all that talk of having Kakko and Laff in the top 6 was kind of BS. But if you are going for balanced scoring, those three lines might be pretty potent.

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:26 pm EST

Day 1 of camp - what GG is saying to me doesn't hold much meaning. Injuries, over-achievers, under-achievers and slumps all will factor into more concrete decisions when the season starts.

rf4L

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:15 pm EST

Sorry, I was typing when the new posts came in!

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:14 pm EST

So Gallant already saying BLAIS starting on 1st line and Kid line staying together. So That means Goodrow or Kravtsov on the 2nd line?

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:09 pm EST

Mollie Walker@MollieeWalkerr·2mSammy Blais will start on the RW of Kreider and Zibanejad, per Gerard Gallant. #NYR

RDW

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:08 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2mFinally, he says Kravtsov will start on the second line with Panarin and Trocheck. Big opportunity. #NYR

RDW

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:07 pm EST

Vince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano·2mIt'll be the Kid Line, GG says. #NYRQuote TweetVince Z. Mercogliano@vzmercogliano · 2mGallant says Laf will start at LW, but that it's all subject to change. #NYR

RDW

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:02 pm EST

Wildcard - I didn't realize that either. And if THAT is the case... I mean, shit. Unless he basically looks like a bender, you might as well sign him! Again...for a 6'4 220 kid at 18 and nine months old to be able to move and hold his own in juniors on a shitty team and after losing a year of development? This kid could end up playing at 6'5 230 when he puts on muscle. Of course, I've only seen exactly five seconds of this kid play...

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 2:00 pm EST

Said it when he was signed. Said it all through the summer. I'll say it again now: Fans are going to LOVE Vince TROCHECK. There's not a lot about him not to love. At the U20s, he was one of the first guys to stand out...the others being GAUDREAU, of course, TROUBA, and JONES. Big part of that gold medal and won me over right there.

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 1:01 pm EST

Besides feisty, Trocheck is a far superior FO guy to Strome...we need that upgrade .... hate the term but not the player ..

sjw

Wed Sep 21 2022 12:37 pm EST

I think some of you who never keyed in on Trocheck will be thrilled at what a pain in the ass he is. He stirs the drink when he is able. He draws a lot of attention.

E

Wed Sep 21 2022 12:27 pm EST

Puckyou: Agreed. I think that Trivingo, if he continues to grow, will become a top AHL player this season or next. That will put him in position to be recalled to fill in a role more suited for him. Guys like Gettinger and Rempe will be the guys that will be liked at to fill on for roses they fit. Well...at least if things are done correctly. In all honesty though, Trivingo may end up traded when he reaches that point. The Rangers DO have a LOT of young forwards coming, and some may well be "better" players than he is. At some point he may ask for a trade or let it be known he wont sign an extension with the Rangers org in order to try to get a chance. So I think we will see him traded at some point the next couple seasons. However, thats a hell of a win for the Rangers if thats the case, just as much a win if he makes the Rangers some day. They didnt give anything up to get him, and if they can have him turn into a player, be it him or another player or even a pick, thats a major win. Its really good to see him look so good so far...and I hope it continues through camp and into the AHL season. Because that means that the Rangers scouts are doing a good job with guys that are overlooked originally.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 11:54 am EST

I really like what I see from Trivigno, feel like he’s a long , long shot (to put it mildly), but that kid can play. Problem is his size , he can’t play on a 4th line, but he can fly, is smart and has the will. Guys like him and Sykora have to work harder to overcome the stigma of their diminutive size and bbe so much better than the Gauthier & Rempe types who get benefit of the doubt because if they ever blossom…

Puckyou

Wed Sep 21 2022 11:31 am EST

td: Also, if they can send him to junior...his contract doesnt count towards the 50 if he is under 20 as of September 15th and he is just 18 so timing isnt even concern. If 18 or 19 and in a CHL or Euro league, their contract doesn't count against the contract total number for the year.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 11:28 am EST

By the way, since "Bread and Butter" is no longer with Strome gone, I hereby dub Panarin-Trocheck "Bread and Jam" due to Trocheck's feisty personality. You're welcome!

ColoradoMark

Wed Sep 21 2022 11:25 am EST

td: Absolutely I would jump at signing him if he shows ANYTHING at camp. IF he is a total mess, then I would pass, but if he shows he can hang, at least with the other kids his age, then I would say its a great grab. Like you said, basically a free late round pick in last years draft, but after the fact.

Wildcard

Wed Sep 21 2022 9:31 am EST

Do the same rules apply to this kid that apply to Othmann? If the Rangers were to sign this kid who was not drafted, would they be allowed to only hold him for 10 games and then have to make a decision to send him back or are the rules different for undrafted kids?

Bob

Wed Sep 21 2022 9:25 am EST

RF4L - I guess it makes sense. And I really didn't take into consideration that a lot of draft picks don't sign for a year or two after their drafted...especially the guys in the later rounds...I mean, I always sort of wondered about the rules for guys not drafted, because there ARE sometimes players on the younger side who pass through and who are good players, but just maybe need a bit more time. Feels like in this case, the Rangers could basically get a free late-round draft pick by signing this kid, who by most descriptions, has both a high talent and IQ for the sport, and an NHL-ready frame. Certainly his numbers don't look all that good...but for a first year player on a shitty team and still on the upside of 18? I'd take a chance.

tdchi

Wed Sep 21 2022 8:28 am EST

He’s surely able to be sent back. Otherwise it defies all those rules in place that means Othmann has to be on the Rangers or Flint. It also seems oxymoronic in that the rule is there to encourage contracts for 18 year olds who slipped thru the draft but why sign a kid if you are forced to park him in the pressbox??

Rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:08 pm EST

I woulda also given Marc's kid a shot too...though he's older and doesn't have nearly the physique.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:05 pm EST

Wildcard - If that's the case and they CAN sign him and send him back to juniors...I mean, hell, it's kind of a no-brainer I would think? Especially a kid that size and still that young who had a season taken from him by the pandemic. They got three contracts free and even assuming both the PTOs make it(which I doubt they will), that leaves one for the kid...Well, I guess we'll see what he can do...but man, 18 years old and 6'4 220 pounds? A kid described as a smart player? Man, I'd take that gamble.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 8:05 pm EST

E: agreed. So figure the guys who will practice with the top two groups: (D candidates: Jones, Robertson, Bartkowsi and maybe Tinordi and Skinner along with our presumptive top 6. F: Rydahl, Vesey, Brodzinski, Carpenter, Trivigno, Cuylle and Othmann.

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:58 pm EST

But can they sign Alfano and send him back to Junior and slide his contract? If he isn’t AHL eligible, I can’t imagine he’s required to be in the NHL at his age?

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:55 pm EST

COLORADO: right now camp is about fitness testing, some scrimmages etc… the camp is held in smaller groups set up by coaching. They’ll cut it down quickly. I’d expect that they intend to play Othman and Cuyle as much as possible with the big boys but in all honesty there is almost no open slots in this lineup.

E

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:46 pm EST

I sent that guy a message...he confirmed that the kid the Rangers brought in is an un-drafted UFA until he CHL season starts. SO they can sign him if they want...if they dont, then he enters the draft process for next season and can no longer be signed.

Wildcard

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:39 pm EST

THsi from a guy on Twitter...Kyle Cushman@Kyle_Cush·4hRe-entry draft prospects attending NHL camps so far:#BlueJackets G Nolan Lalonde#Wild G Thomas Milic#Rangers RW Sam Alfano#Senators C Dalyn Wakely#Flyers C Mikael Huchette#Flyers LW Tyler Savard#Capitals RHD Simon Motew---->>>> @Kyle_CushAll of these prospects are eligible to sign until the start of the new CHL season. Once that begins, they will once again enter the draft process. 18/19-year-old UDFA market is how Philadelphia landed Philippe Myers + Egor Zamula

Wildcard

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:21 pm EST

ColoradoMark - GAUTHIER is among a couple players on the bubble who I have almost zero doubt will be claimed if they go through waivers...the others are KRAVTSOV and HAJEK...the guy who I think'll pass through like shit through a goose is HUNT...but I agree...I'm pretty surprised he's still here. TBH, I figured the Rangers would've moved him for another team's reclamation project...much in the same way we did GRAVES for BIRGRAS a few years back. Woulda buzzed the Blues about Logan BROWN. But hey...maybe the Rangers still see something in him. It sure is strange how they continue to cling to him and HAJEK, yet won't play either of them.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:13 pm EST

RF4L - I'm guessing a bit here, but I think the Rangers would have to sign the kid AND keep him in New York for the season to make him Ranger property. I can't see how the rules would let them ink an 18-year-old who still has draft eligibility...but if there's some way that's possible? Sans keeping him in New York all season? I mean shit...why not?

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:12 pm EST

ALFANO was a 23rd overall pick in the OHL, which doesn't really mean diddlysquat, but says someone thought he was good enough to take him pretty high...Peterborough's second pick, selected over likely 2023 top-5 pick Adam FANTELLI and before Owen BECK, who went in the early second round this season. But the dude lost his rookie season to COVID and obviously his first year with the Petes didn't go too smoothly.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 6:59 pm EST

Apparently, there was a deal pretty close to move him to Vancouver...likely when the Rangers were sniffing around JT MILLER...But the Canucks wanted LUNDKVIST+ and DRURY wasn't having it...Now I can't see the Nuckles doing JT for LUNDKVIST straight up and I can't see the Rangers sticking on that deal...so probably other pieces were involved...Interestingly enough...the Rangers signed TROCHECK for what MILLER is currently making...and they coulda resigned him to the deal he got with Vancouver dipping into the $3.4 million in dead cap that comes off the books in 10 months. Deep thoughts...

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 5:36 pm EST

Apparently the Rangers have until 10/1 to sign Alfano to an ELC…

Rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 5:26 pm EST

Alfano attended the Leaf development camp or so I read. 6’4” 220 lb right winger who’s apparently a bright student. From what I know because of his age he’ll be eligible for next summer’s draft so the Rangers I guess are doing him a favour.

Rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 5:22 pm EST

In the end I guess I really don’t blame Nils for the trade request. He quietly sprung it 8 months ago and didn’t make any noise until a few weeks back when nothing had be resolved. Barring injuries there’s no room for him for the foreseeable future. Plus he no doubt saw the inexcusable way Hajek has been treated and thought ‘I want none of that shit’. Of course easing my angst here is the solid return Drury pulled in. It’ll be interesting to see how Nils does in Dallas. Apparently it’s the first time the Stars have traded their first rounder which is rather surprising. Obviously they believe he’s the real deal and will fit into what’s shaping up to be a very impressive array of young talent in that organization. If things unfold appropriately the Stars will be a very good team in a few years and Nils could be a key cog there. Let’s hope this year they prove to be at best a PO bubble team!!

Rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 4:34 pm EST

There are usually three practice groups. Team A and Team B are the NHL guys split in two with the Bubble guys split in two. So you'd have the Kreider Line and the 4th line in one group and then the Panarin and 3rd line in the other. Then the AHL for sure guys and the rooks in the third group. The D works out fine as there are enough for 6 D for each group. But the Forwards have 5 extra guys and there is one extra goalie. Not terrible, but just seems a little like wasting time.

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 4:30 pm EST

Personally I think there are too many players in camp. But I think AHL contracts demand that they get to go to the NHL camp, and I am sure some will get guaranteed pre-season appearances (CJ Smith and Turner Elson for sure!) But maybe they will send the first wave pretty quickly to Hartford for their camp.

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 3:23 pm EST

Based on his inability to crack lineups in any meaningful way for the past few seasons I don’t think Bartkowski has much a prayer of making the team this season. As for Vesey? Hes interesting if only in the sense that he had something of a renaissance by his standards last season. A PTO might win him a roster spot or a depth spot in Hartford with the ability for a call up. Remains to be seen. But he will likely be this years PTO Nedved edition. All the brouhaha about several years ago Nedved trying to make a comeback with on a PTO and it resulted in nothing as he was cut and went bye-bye. More interesting in the bottom-6 I wanna see how Rydhal does. He is very likely to make the team. And he is a genuinely difficult guy to play against. Not fun.

E

Tue Sep 20 2022 3:14 pm EST

Drury wasted no time with the latest "diversion" and got 2 conditional picks .. nice ....seems like less of a euro flavour since the 2020 draft ..

sjw

Tue Sep 20 2022 1:44 pm EST

I find it interesting that Gauthier is still a Ranger at this point. Maybe the plan is to send him to Hartford and if he doesn't get claimed let him gain some confidence and score some goals down there where he might build up some trade value? I just don't see the Rangers letting him go for nothing, but maybe there just isn't a market for him.

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 1:30 pm EST

Training camp roster out. No real surprises here that I can see. Both VESEY and BARTKOWSKI are there are PTOs. EDSTROM and SYKORA are there too as I suspected. Nothing out of the norm really. Only guy who is new is Sam ALFANO, a massive 18-year-old who is set to play in Peterborough this season in the OHL: 6'4 and 220. And still five months away from his 19th birthday: https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1572284701951262722

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 1:13 pm EST

TD: Well let's see how Dufour actually does at the pro level before getting too wound up about it. There's tons of examples where a kid explodes like that in his final year of junior and then flounders once he turns pro. I'm not predicting that Dufour will fail but I'm certainly reserving judgement at this point in time. He was on the Canada junior team and put up some good numbers but sure missed a lot of glorious chances if I recall correctly. That said, the Rangers picked Vierling and then Bedard in the 5th round of the 2020 draft, well before the Islanders drafted Dufour (127, 134 and 152 respectively).

rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 1:03 pm EST

ColoradoMark - LOL maybe THAT'S why he's retiring! Sammy BLAIS has "PK 76" carved into the blade of his stick.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 12:49 pm EST

I absolutely fucking HATE the fact that William DUFOUR is a goddamn Islander prospect and that they got him in the fucking fifth round of the draft...

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 12:42 pm EST

For me as you all know, adding draft picks, especially high ones, is a no-brainer strategy in the hardcap environment if you want any chance at sustained competitiveness. The draft remains the strongest avenue for adding organizational talent. I get trading picks if/when you believe doing so might push you over the top; I don't get it otherwise except in the rarest of circumstances (like landing a good young NHLer couldn't have be consummated without adding in a pick to the deal). Drury traded away 7 picks in the past 6 months that helped win some POs games and rid the organization of a stupid-ass contract. For me, risky business because it came at the expense of sustaining organizational skill. However, in the past few months, he's recouped most of those picks. For me, that's excellent work. Now if turns around and trades a bunch of those picks plus someone like KK for a rental like the Hawks' Cane it'll serve to undo all of that, unless of course, Kane is the difference maker in terms of winning the cup.

rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 12:27 pm EST

CM - For me, it's hard to call trades of prospects and picks "GREAT"..It looks liek a good return but who knows? Lundkvist looks like he can be really good but maybe doesn't have it to really excell in NA?..and who knows what the hell the picks will bring..SO, i'll stay conservative and say it was a fair (by fair I meant equitable) and good trade rather then hyping it further...

Hospo

Tue Sep 20 2022 12:10 pm EST

https://thehockeynews.com/news/nathan-mackinnon-signs-massive-eight-year-contract-extension

mf

Tue Sep 20 2022 11:40 am EST

I, too, suspect Slewban wasn't wanted by any team and likely the best offer he got was PTO based.

rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 11:21 am EST

There are some Ranger fans in the Twittersphere who will be mourning the fact that we can never exact vengeance on Slewban, lol! HOSPO- If this was only a fair to good trade for Lundkvist, what woul dhave been a good to great trade? Just curious. I was worried when I heard that we were offered2nd round picks, but considering we drafted him 28th and he wasn't going to be a stud for the Rangers unless there was an injury to one of our top two D-men, I would have been happy with a 1st rounder. Add on a 4th rounder (possible 3rd) and I'm pretty ecstatic. I don't know if there was ever a chance of trading him for a young NHL player or prospect. But with our cap situation, I think draft picks that don't effect our cap is a smarter option then acquiring a young player who we won't be able to afford if they have a great year.

ColoradoMark

Tue Sep 20 2022 10:32 am EST

I'm guessing Subban didn't want to play hockey for the peanuts he was likely being offered. He and Chara wont be missed.P

Rhet0ric

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:50 am EST

Subban will make more money working in the media than he did playing hockey.

Bob

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:20 am EST

CHARA is no surprise. YANDLE? Maybe a little, but still: the dude was toast last season...SUBBAN, however, is kind of a surprise. I mean, the shit he was pulling slewfooting dudes is often a symptom that comes to inherently dirty players when they start to slow down...but still. The guy is 33. I guess he's made his money and I wouldn't be surprise if there are a lot of teams that don't like the fact that he spent most of last season almost ending careers...but still. He had more gas in the tank and probably could've been a good contributor on a playoff-bound team...To think: the Devils paid two high second rounders for that dude...one of which became Bobby BRINK, who you'll be hearing about very shortly in the NHL.

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:10 am EST

All D'men, "go Stevie, go Stevie" .......

mf

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:07 am EST

Come in 3’s?…https://www.nhl.com/news/keith-yandle-retires-from-hockey/c-335652050

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 20 2022 9:04 am EST

Slewban too…https://www.nhl.com/news/pk-subban-retires-from-hockey/c-334788588

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 20 2022 8:41 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/news/zdeno-chara-retires-from-hockey/c-334789936

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 20 2022 8:14 am EST

Terrific trade by Drury. Love Lundkvist as a prospect but he's blocked by too many guys on this team. Not a sure thing but I also could see him making that 55 point threshold. It will be interesting to see what we think of this trade a couple of years down the road. Either way, I could not see us getting a better return for an unproven in the NHL type player.

Rhet0ric

Tue Sep 20 2022 8:04 am EST

So Drury in the past half year has traded away 1 first, 3 seconds, 1 third and 2 fourths and acquired 1 first, 2 thirds, 1 fourth (that might become a third), 1 fifth and 1 sixth. That's 7 gone and 6 added. Nice work as it turns out.

rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:59 am EST

stevie: Whoever that blue dude is he's stating in his article about Nils that the Rangers' 2nd rounder in 2023 is from the Jets. It's not. It's their own and they have it because the Jets elected to use the pick acquired by Drury in the Buchnevich trade in this past draft.

rf4L

Tue Sep 20 2022 7:26 am EST

At bare minimum, the Ottawa Senators are going to be a very fun team to watch this season. TBH, I would not be surprised at all if they make the playoffs:https://www.nhl.com/senators/news/ottawa-senators-announce-59-player-2022-23-training-camp-roster/c-335651044

tdchi

Tue Sep 20 2022 4:42 am EST

https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/new-york-rangers-rookie-who-makes-cut/

Stevielegs

Tue Sep 20 2022 4:35 am EST

https://bluecollarblueshirts.com/92022/

Stevielegs

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